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[Omegabronic]

So, I know it's a little bit late. But while checking some pages, I stumbled upon this thread, which seems to have passed with only 1 staff agreement... isn't this not allowed by Wiki rules?

There's 2 tho?

I suppose if more staff is decided as needed we can re-open it? Really thought there was enough votes

 

[Omegabronic]

One is a partial agreement from Griffin and one is a full agreement from Maverick. I already checked. The thread was still applied in its entirety. That's not sufficient, as far as i know.

Oh i see, genuially thought Griffin fully agreed at the time, he didn't? Then yeah, prob should be re-opened

Can any staff here do it?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Oh i see, genuially thought Griffin fully agreed at the time, he didn't? Then yeah, prob should be re-opened

No problem. I didn't report anyone. Staff just told me these things need to be posted here, which is why I did.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Revised should be reverted for the time being.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Revised should be reverted for the time being.

Just a small hiccup; I have to remove a few portions of a blog and I can't reliably do so at the moment because I'm on mobile (and viewing it in Desktop doesn't help). As long as people are willing to wait until later today, I can do so effortlessly.

I know exactly which parts to remove, I just won't be able to do so until I get back home.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Just a small hiccup; I have to remove a few portions of a blog and I can't reliably do so at the moment because I'm on mobile (and viewing it in Desktop doesn't help). As long as people are willing to wait until later today, I can do so effortlessly.

I know exactly which parts to remove, I just won't be able to do so until I get back home.

No problem take your time.

 

[FinePoint]

So, I know it's a little bit late. But while checking some pages, I stumbled upon this thread, which seems to have passed with only 1 staff agreement... isn't this not allowed by Wiki rules?

The summarized rules for acceptance are:

Minor Revisions: 1 Staff Approval
Normal Revisions: 2 Staff Approval
Revisions for Large/Popular Verses: 3 Staff Approval
And those staff obviously need evaluation rights (thread mods, admins, etc.)

If it's Tier 2 or higher, at least one admin needs to be involved.
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So, looking at the thread, it is obviously not a minor revision, and LordGriffin1000 never fully agreed.

So the changes should be reverted, but I think a new thread should be made since that one is two years old and a lot of other stuff may have changed which affects it.

 

[Antvasima]

Another member (MeiouHades) apparently also wants to make a ban appeal.

Antvasima

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[Omegabronic]

The summarized rules for acceptance are:

Minor Revisions: 1 Staff Approval
Normal Revisions: 2 Staff Approval
Revisions for Large/Popular Verses: 3 Staff Approval
And those staff obviously need evaluation rights (thread mods, admins, etc.)

If it's Tier 2 or higher, at least one admin needs to be involved.
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So, looking at the thread, it is obviously not a minor revision, and LordGriffin1000 never fully agreed.

So the changes should be reverted, but I think a new thread should be made since that one is two years old and a lot of other stuff may have changed which affects it.

Can make one by the weekend

 

[FinePoint]

Another member (MeiouHades) apparently also wants to make a ban appeal.

Antvasima

community.fandom.com

I agree with them that there wasn't good evidence to assume they and SeiyaRyuSei are the same person.

They did, however, have a pattern of aggressive and dramatic/toxic behavior, and continued this even after receiving a lesser punishment for it.

That said, it looks like this all happened over a year ago, and I know that a lot of growth can happen in a year, and is quite a long time to be banned but still want to participate.

So I would support giving them another chance, but in my eyes they have two strikes out of three.

 

[Antvasima]

@DarkDragonMedeus @Mr. Bambu @Agnaa @Celestial_Pegasus @Wokistan @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @ByAsura @Sir_Ovens @Damage3245 @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @GyroNutz @Firestorm808 @Everything12 @Maverick_Zero_X @Crabwhale @GrathOfLux @Dereck03 @Planck69 @LephyrTheRevanchist

We need your continuous help here.

 

[Hasty12345]

Another member (MeiouHades) apparently also wants to make a ban appeal.

Antvasima

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As someone who was wronged by him in the past and is the direct cause of at least one of his warnings, over the last year we’ve been communicating on other sites and his general tone has massively changed.

He no longer, at least in my opinion, communicates with aggressive undertones and is generally “more chill”. I think he’s grown as a person and should get another chance.

Edit: I should also note, I don’t use discord and am not in the server that got leaked by a certain person on RVR, nor has anyone asked me to advocate for his appeal.

 

[ShakeResounding]

No problem take your time.

Thank you for helping out.

Just wanted to inform you that I have now reverted changes due to the situation beforehand. Thank you for the patience!

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I agree with them that there wasn't good evidence to assume they and SeiyaRyuSei are the same person.

They did, however, have a pattern of aggressive and dramatic/toxic behavior, and continued this even after receiving a lesser punishment for it.

That said, it looks like this all happened over a year ago, and I know that a lot of growth can happen in a year, and is quite a long time to be banned but still want to participate.

So I would support giving them another chance, but in my eyes they have two strikes out of three.

I could agree with this

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I am also fine with extending an additional chance.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

MeiouHades I am willing to give another chance; I do not entirely remember the full extent of why they're banned. But so far, witnesses seem to speak in defense.

As for GodlyCharmander. My mistake, I should have double checked what "Catfishing" meant. I thought it simply meant making accounts with false identities; for example, pretending to be a transgender female when the user is actually a cisgendered male IRL. I didn't know "Luring people into a romantic relationship" had to be a requirement to be considered "catfishing." But I still have not moved from this conclusion, the ultimate final chance for me was the "No sock puppets created after September 2023 will result in him having a ultimate final chance to appeal post September 2024." And the fact is, Yellow Topaz was created before the deadline, which is what I consider his ultimate final chance being blown. But I also agreed that I will simply make that as a vote against coming back, and that I wouldn't mind letting him back if I am outvoted. But so far, it looks like staff majority agree with my side.

 

[Antvasima]

So to start with, is it fine if we unban MeiouHades, and if so, should we give him some kind of behavioural instruction in conjunction?

 

[FinePoint]

Reporting @Giannysmag for regularly making sexual/inappropriate comments, many of which are directed at other users.

I first noticed it in this thread, where I deleted their comment and gave them an informal warning.
I then looked at their post history and realized it's a pattern.

Case 1, Case 2, Case 3, Case 4, Case 5, Case 6, Case 7 (This one is particularly bad, though he deleted it.), Case 8, Case 9, Case 10, Case 11, Case 12.

And these are just what I collected in the first 20 of the 130 pages of their activity.

I think at the very least an official warning is in order, but given how some of it was clearly directed at other users and aggressive in nature, I think a ban of some duration is probably more fitting.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Just to clarify, he's a good friend of mine. That first comment can be taken as a joke towards me, I'm pretty sure he didn’t mean any harm with it. But yeah, I know the rest were really inappropriate. So honestly, I do think he should at least get a warning. Banning one is not on me so I'll leave it to rest of the staff to take decision.

Edit:- actually on a second thought i don't find other as inappropriate as it seems like except for that second one.

 

[Giannysmag]

This was bound to happen eventually huh.

Just like with Twilight most of these are directed towards people who I talk to and am friends with off site, to whom jokes like this are pretty mild. That being said I understand that this forum isn't a private discord chat and my behaviour was inappropriate.

As for the messages on the JJK thread... yea I've got no defense for those I was feeling real gooner brained can you blame me tho? look at how majestic Gojo looks

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that a regular warning seems sufficient for Giannysmag then, given the combined above information.

Also, we need to make a final active decision regarding MeiouHades, and our discussion about GodlyCharmander seems split/inconclusive.

 

[FinePoint]

Edit:- actually on a second thought i don't find other as inappropriate as it seems like except for that second one.

Well, while I understand that they may seem minor from certain perspectives, I think that regular talk of gooning (excessive masturbation), gay sex, etc. should be heavily discouraged, even among friends, and even jokingly, given that we have a large population of minors on this site.

Well, I think that a regular warning seems sufficient for Giannysmag then, given the combined above information.

Given it was mostly directed towards friends who were okay with it, I suppose I can be convinced to back down to a warning.

Also, we need to make a final active decision regarding MeiouHades, and our discussion about GodlyCharmander seems split/inconclusive.

Well it seems like it's unanimous so far across five different staff members and a previous victim to give MeiouHades another chance, so it's probably fine to unban them. I don't think any special instructions are needed since they seem to already understand what they did wrong.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, while I understand that they may seem minor from certain perspectives, I think that regular talk of gooning (excessive masturbation), gay sex, etc should be heavily discouraged, even among friends, and even jokingly, given that we have a large population of minors on this site.

Given it was mostly directed towards friends who were okay with it, I suppose I can be convinced to back down to a warning.

Hmm. Given your new summary, I think that a very strict cease and desist warning seems most appropriate in this case.

Well it seems like it's unanimous so far across five different staff members and a previous victim to give MeiouHades a second chance, so it's probably fine to unban them. I don't think any special instructions are needed since they seem to already understand what they did wrong.

Okay. It seems best if I write an explanation message that clarifies why I unblock them though. What should it say exactly?

 

[Damage3245]

and our discussion about GodlyCharmander seems split/inconclusive.

Does it? I thought majority were opposed to them returning.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, three staff members are for giving him a final chance if I remember correctly.

 

[Catzlaflame]

I think finepoint’s concerns are valid; I’d like to think I have a fairly liberal take on this sorta thing, but something as explicit as all of the above (particularly the deleted one cus lmao) are honestly not cool. A strong warning does seem appropriate.

Well, three staff members are for giving him a final chance if I remember correctly.

It’s 5-3 — with Agnaa being “not sure” ?
REPEAL: Bambu, Finepoint, Ant
NO REPEAL: DDM, Damage, Reiner, Propellus, Catz

@Firestorm808 requested further information, so feel free to consider the latter portion of Bambu’s message and this summary.

if I write an explanation message that clarifies why I unblock them though. What should it say exactly?

In acknowledgment of the fact that a considerable amount of time has passed since your initial banning, and with your self-reflective attitude on the situation, the staff has chosen to reinstate your wiki and forum accounts. Moving forward, we ask that you review the Discussion rules and Site rules to ensure that something like this doesn’t happen again. Thank you for your cooperation.

 

[CodeCCLL]

CodeCCLL

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Can someone tell me what this user said to me in original post?

 

[SeijiSetto]

CodeCCLL

vsbattles.fandom.com

Can someone tell me what this user said to me in original post?

 

[CodeCCLL]

I thought that comment was edited by also a moderator and that I would not be able to see the changes made by moderators.

Note that the post history will not include moderator actions like locking or deleting a post, or approving a report, nor will it have actions that you may be used to from MediaWiki (like differences, and the ability to undo or rollback).

 

[SeijiSetto]

I thought that comment was edited by also a moderator and that I would not be able to see the changes made by moderators.

i don't understand
i don't know if it was edited by a mod all i did was go to "Reply History" and look at what was there

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/834667410086821959/1370781495463252169/Screenshot_2025-05-10-20-45-13-81_e4424258c8b8649f6e67d283a50a2cbc.jpg?ex=6820bf40&is=681f6dc0&hm=0e5f0745aedaddb6f5cbed9ad6e9712af0d95e439173cb5cd7fa0a197c501e78&
If a mod had edited it, you'd see Edited by a Moderator instead of what above is.

 

[CodeCCLL]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/834667410086821959/1370781495463252169/Screenshot_2025-05-10-20-45-13-81_e4424258c8b8649f6e67d283a50a2cbc.jpg?ex=6820bf40&is=681f6dc0&hm=0e5f0745aedaddb6f5cbed9ad6e9712af0d95e439173cb5cd7fa0a197c501e78&
If a mod had edited it, you'd see Edited by a Moderator instead of what above is.

How can this happen?

 

[Psychomaster35]

GodlyCharmander seems split/inconclusive.

Don't bring him back, ever.

Though, I have a feeling he's back as another account, as this account I've been seeing oddly joined the forum the same day The Yellow Topaz (A GodlyCharmander sock) was last seen (May 30, 2024) and a week after it got banned, with this account possessing a similar toxicity level and similar verse interests to Charmander, although I don't want to jump to conclusions too soon and accuse them just yet.

 

[KLOL506]

I am in the same boat as Psychomaster.

 

[FinePoint]

Okay. It seems best if I write an explanation message that clarifies why I unblock them though. What should it say exactly?

In acknowledgment of the fact that a considerable amount of time has passed since your initial banning, and with your self-reflective attitude on the situation, the staff has chosen to reinstate your wiki and forum accounts. Moving forward, we ask that you review the Discussion rules and Site rules to ensure that something like this doesn’t happen again. Thank you for your cooperation.

I think Catzaflame's explanation message is to-the-point and well-written.

Though if you feel like it's not detailed enough, I could write a more elaborate one instead.

 

[FinePoint]

How can this happen?

I edited it just to test it, and my edit does show up in the revision history.
https://media.**********.net/attachments/1005772797278158898/1370830186291138692/image.png?ex=6820ec99&is=681f9b19&hm=f5bc9ad61ef3987cb6f4e5a120aa6bd83a997ad1e86e5899769a23f330045420&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1465&height=771

So I'm assuming their original message is just "Your existence is meaningless. Just like this debunk."

Which is really rude, by the way. Do you know this person, or are they being toxic?

 

[CodeCCLL]

are they being toxic?

Yes. That's why I wondered if the original post was much worse.

 

[FinePoint]

Yes. That's why I wondered if the original post was much worse.

I see. Well, it doesn't look like it's a pattern. They got slightly heated one other time but nothing serious.

So an informal warning/instruction is probably appropriate, I think.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Well, it doesn't look like it's a pattern

CodeCCLL

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