Xu Jingming Update 6 - End of Evolution - Low 1A/1-A

[Zaratthustra]

Bump.

"As I ascend to enlightenment..."

Within the Primordial Genesis Membrane Embryo, the grand rumble of the Great Dao echoed, as if countless millions of goddesses sang in praise. The Heavenly Empress, blessed by the Great Dao, ascended amidst a radiant dawn. Harnessing the pressure Ye Xu had exerted upon her, she achieved enlightenment, becoming a Heavenly Monarch!

"When I achieve Enlightenment, I transcend emotions and desires, grasping the principles of Heaven and Earth, my actions aligned with the cosmos."

"When I achieve Enlightenment, women will be exalted, holding positions of authority as officials, emperors, and sovereigns, becoming the true lineage."

"When I achieve Enlightenment, men shall become wives and concubines, bowing before women, raising children, and adhering to the Three Bonds and Five Virtues."

"When I achieve Enlightenment, women shall become gods, while men serve as slaves, honoring the goddesses..."

The Heavenly Empress (Jade Maiden Yaoji) achieving Dao.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Bump..maybe.

Dao Ancestor Wanxing (Yuan Yu) fighting with Jiang Nan while showing his Great Dao.

Dao Ancestor Wanxiang drew a deep breath, transforming from appearing like a single individual standing there into a swirling mass of primordial qi, composed entirely of Tai Chi, of Primordial Genesis!

His nine Great Daos were fully fused together, harmonized and unified, distilled down into Tai Chi itself!

The marvel of creation, the interplay of yin and yang, daybreak and dusk!

One thought to become a Saint, another to turn into a Demon; one thought to transform into a Buddha, another to a Spirit; one thought to become a Ghost, another to a Fiend, yet another to become a God!

Myriad manifestations of celestial beings, born of Primordial Genesis Tai Chi!

The accomplishments of nine lives culminate in this final epoch!

"Begin!"

It seemed as though Dao Ancestor Wanxiang's body no longer existed and had been replaced by the Primordial Genesis Tai Chi, the interplay between Yin and Yang. His attack was simple yet profound, seemingly fusing the power of his nine lives into one!

In the next instant, this simple attack transformed, manifesting myriad forms, causing space-time within the Great Hall to seem distorted. To Jiang Nan and Taiyi, it appeared that nine universes were born from the Tai Chi, their spiritual lights twinkling like stars, each universe rising and falling within the Tai Chi.

The shifting universes took on the form of nine Innate Magical Treasures, clearly shaped after those formed from his past nine mortal bodies!

Dao Ancestor Wanxiang fused his embodiment, Dao Fruit, Dao Treasure and True Self into one, transforming himself into Tai Chi. With every strike, he displayed such extraordinary visions. His self merged with the Dao, the Dao merged with the Technique, the Technique merged with the Treasure, and the Treasure merged with his self!

 

[Zaratthustra]

You know the drill, and so do I. Bump.

Kinda a spoiler for Rise of Humanity but anyway not like anyone here reads it. A favorite moment of mine.

Zhong Yue beamed with delight, saying, "I was overly preoccupied with my own life and death, forgetting the purpose of this existence. Consequently, I became fixated on escaping my personal cycle of reincarnation. In truth, I had focused too far ahead, neglecting to see the solution closer at hand."

As if speaking both to the audience and to himself, he continued steadily, "The purpose and goal of my lifetime - the conflict between Innate and Acquired beings - holds little significance for me. While I fight against the Innate Gods and Demons, the very origins of the Fuxi Clan lie within them. My ancestors assist me; Lei Ze, Huaxu, Hou Tu, Great Sui, along with Qian Dou, King Xiang, Burial Spirit, and other Innate God Kings support me.

"Thus, it's not truly about opposing the Innate Gods and Demons. My sole purpose and goal throughout this life is the revival and resurgence of the Fuxi god race! For this, I have dedicated my entire existence, employing all my divine abilities and wisdom! Now, what obstacles remain to hinder the rise and restoration of the Fuxi god race?"

The crowd listened attentively, including numerous Earth Sovereigns and Heavenly Sovereigns.

Zhong Yue raised a finger, pointing at the Origin Dao God, then the Black and White Monarchs, followed by the Reincarnation Holy King and the Four-Faced God before finally gesturing towards himself.

"Fellow Daoist Origin, all of you seek to exterminate the Fuxi god race, enslave us, turn us into sustenance or livestock, and render us powerless slaves devoid of resistance. Thus, you are obstacles. And I too am an obstacle, a hindrance to the resurgence and revival of the Fuxi god race."

Zhong Yue sighed deeply, "I have become too powerful, so much so that this world and even the Dao Realm cannot bear it any longer."

The Four-Faced God grunted audibly, while the Reincarnation Holy King gritted his teeth with audible grinding. Yin Fanxuan couldn't suppress her amusement, letting out a stifled giggle, and others also chuckled quietly.

Continuing, Zhong Yue said, "My strength is overwhelming, compelling the Dao Realm itself to target me. However, I cannot succumb to fear just because the Dao Realm seeks my demise. Such cowardice would lead the resurgent Fuxi god race and Human race into catastrophic destruction. Moreover, due to my immense power, the Fuxi god race faces few enemies. As long as I exist, they remain the foremost god race under heaven, needing neither growth nor training. They effortlessly obtain the best resources and richest treasures."

The Shengwu Clan and Zhong Huangshen fell silent.

For a long time, Zhong Yue had shielded the Fuxi god race from danger. He eliminated the Innate Gods and Demons, shattered Great Si Ming's Dao Heart, relentlessly pursued the Origin Dao God and his allies, and subdued all the Monarchs of the world, ensuring their loyalty and preventing any rebellions or disloyalty.

As a result, the younger generation of the Fuxi god race lacked opportunities for training and experience. During times of peace, this posed no issue, but amidst these calamities, the consequences became apparent. The overall strength of the Fuxi god race was even surpassed by the Huxu Clan, making it difficult to command respect among others.

However, when Zhong Yue claimed he had become an obstacle to the revival of the Fuxi god race, both Crown Princes were reluctant to accept it. Their Imperial Father had invested so much into the Fuxi god race; hearing him now deny himself was deeply unsettling.

Zhong Yue's self-denial struck a profound blow not only on Zhong Huangshen and others but perhaps most significantly on Zhong Yue himself. This lifelong goal, the ideal he had tirelessly pursued, infused with his entire life's dedication, ultimately revealed him as an impediment. How heartbroken must he feel? Only one who comprehends this fully can truly be Emperor Tai.

“A War God race is forged through battle, not by relying on a single powerful individual, so I am also an obstacle.” Zhong Yue paused briefly before smiling again. “When this realization dawned upon me, everything became clear. My own reincarnation can be put aside for now, as well as my own life or death. I cannot place my personal survival above the grand endeavor of reviving our race!”

His gaze shifted with fervor from Origin Dao God to Four-Faced God, then to Black Monarch and White Monarch, finally resting on Reincarnation Holy King. His voice grew urgent and impassioned as he declared, “I merely need to eliminate you—you, you, you, and you! Once each of you is removed, the majority of obstacles hindering the Fuxi god race's revival will be swept away. With the greatest impediments gone, that will be the time to focus solely on confronting the Dao Realm and its Dao Light.”

The expressions of Origin Dao God and others darkened further, their killing intent intensifying.

Zhong Yue stamped his foot and sighed, “Once you're eliminated, I can devote all my energy to the Dao Realm. How pitiful it was that I remained consumed by unraveling the Dao Realm's Dao Light and the Chaos Brand, placing too much importance on my own life. You, too, have valued my life excessively, leading to the tragic loss of so many fellow Daoists.”

He stood up, his voice languid as he continued, “By killing you all, I can solve this problem."

We'll, this is also my last entry in the journal. Had a good time... maybe.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Oh, bump, oh bump. Truly the end of evolution, the end of tiering.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Brother did god knows how many bumps. @Ultima_Reality just evaluate for bro before he goes insane

 

[Zaratthustra]

Well, bump.

I'm at day with Beyond Time...and what I can say on regarding with powerscaling (story and character are peak, top Ergen novel) is that there are beings that can snuff all Ergen previous main characters just by existing alone, High 1A is possible. But I won't work on it.

 

[Orioreeem]

Well, bump.

I'm at day with Beyond Time...and what I can say on regarding with powerscaling (story and character are peak, top Ergen novel) is that there are beings that can snuff all Ergen previous main characters just by existing alone, High 1A is possible. But I won't work on it.

I never read any of Ergen novel, but since I heard that all are peak can I start with this one?

 

[Zaratthustra]

You can start with whatever novel you want sincerely, just that a lot of concepts, characters that may appear and mention things will be hard to understand sometimes as you'll need previous novel knowledge to truly grasp what they mean. References also exist and the cultivation at some point will need previous novel statements to get what it truly represent.

Edit: The single one that I truly suggest to be not be read first is A World Worth Protecting without reading at least Renegade Immortal. Its also Ergen weakeat work in my opinion till chapter 1000 or so till it gets peak. This novel has the most extensive participation of a previous character from Renegade Immortal within so it would be better to read in that order at least.

Renegade Immortal before A World Worth Protecting.

Some may say I shall seal the Heavens before A Will Eternal too, but its not that much of a problem in my opinion here.

 

[Hjdjdhf]

I think 1-A is more appropriate,bump

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Alright. It's been 2 months so let's get this done with.

I see the problem, but would it change anything as one of these 4 Ultimate Existences is spacetime itself - Mother Stream. This is a High-Dimensional being who summoned just a part of it, as its not even a third-realm being.

Mother Stream being the concept of spacetime itself would be interesting as pointer towards 1-A, yeah. That said, I don't think this is really what's said in the text? At the very least, not in a way where it helps here. Like, to quote what you posted:

He knew that the universe didn’t exist a long, long time ago! The Mother Stream later came into existence, giving birth to universes and resulting in the existence of a concept known as a universe. This also completely changed the cultivation path of all high-dimensional lifeforms.

It seems that Mother Stream specifically originated the concept of "a universe," and the text then explicitly says "high-dimensional lifeforms" still existed even before this event. So clearly it isn't referring to it being the concept of dimensions or something of that like.

This also seems to reinforce what I said earlier ("Earlier" is a bit of an understatement but do forgive me there):

The laws of the Heart Realm seamlessly merged with the infinite spacetime, benefiting its circulation. Henceforth, Xu Jingming’s laws became an integral part of the fundamental laws of infinite spacetime.
If his laws could merge with the laws of infinite spacetime, he would become the bedrock of its existence.
The four Ultimate beings are also the cornerstones and pillars of infinite spacetime. Our presence can render infinite spacetime more flawless, stable, and powerful. Xu Jingming understood this fact very well.

A lot of the big stuff here really is just referring to the characters affecting and influencing a concrete "infinite spacetime," and not all possible numbers of dimensions, or something abstract that encompasses all these numbers, or whatever. Only other interesting thing is the talk of the Abyss having "endless possibilities," but obviously that's a bit too ambiguous to get anything worthwhile as 1-A evidence.

Beats me how high into 1-B this is, though.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Alright. It's been 2 months so let's get this done with.


Mother Stream being the concept of spacetime itself would be interesting as pointer towards 1-A, yeah. That said, I don't think this is really what's said in the text? At the very least, not in a way where it helps here. Like, to quote what you posted:



It seems that Mother Stream specifically originated the concept of "a universe," and the text then explicitly says "high-dimensional lifeforms" still existed even before this event. So clearly it isn't referring to it being the concept of dimensions or something of that like.

This also seems to reinforce what I said earlier ("Earlier" is a bit of an understatement but do forgive me there):



A lot of the big stuff here really is just referring to the characters affecting and influencing a concrete "infinite spacetime," and not all possible numbers of dimensions, or something abstract that encompasses all these numbers, or whatever. Only other interesting thing is the talk of the Abyss having "endless possibilities," but obviously that's a bit too ambiguous to get anything worthwhile as 1-A evidence.

Beats me how high into 1-B this is, though.

I see, so your verdict on this is what tier? Thanks.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I see, so your verdict on this is what tier? Thanks.

1-B, I believe is what I said before.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Thanks for the response, didn't have time to respond as I wasn't in the country.

I'll ping all users who voted till now so they can give once again an input on their past agreed tiers. If you need to read once again the reasoning then here it is.

Third-Realm Lifeform

Low-Complex Multiverse level (An Eternal being before a Third-Realm existence is infinitesimally small[51] whether in physical size or level of existence as just the palm[70] of a Third-Realm High-Dimensional Lifeform is larger than a universe while the peak one's body fur alone is countless times[50] larger than a universe as they are Fifth-Dimensional Being[63])

Edit - the reasoning for the Low 1-A/1-A tier (before Unqver showed it was a miss-translation regarding the infinite higher dimensions)
Ultimate Existence = Low Outerverse level or Outerverse level (I've been told that 1-A fits better for UE but I'm not sure so I would like some input)

(Ultimate Existences powers when compared to Third-Realm High-Dimensional lifeforms are unrivaled and beyond imagination[88] as just a mere piece of paper drawn[46] by them has enough power to pulverize them. Flowers that can rival entire universes[86] in grandeur are mere decorations within his garden. There are stated to be countless higher dimensions[63] with each addition being more complex than the previous one. Ultimate Existences transcended[51] to a higher plane of existence compared to Third Realm Lifeforms - to the farthest reaches of spacetime, all paths of cultivation, of every lifeform. Their laws are imprinted within the Infinite Spacetime as they are the pillars of existence[84], the bedrock of its foundation)

Changes regarding the Ultimate Existence tier:

Now, even if it's not mentioning "countless dimensions", we still know there are more dimensions like the 4th, 5th (Third Realm beings), and possibly more but for now let's stop at the mentioned ones.

The Higher Dimension has spatial layers that have not limit[21] and are like its "space" infinite. There exist multiple successions of the River of Spacetime (Timeline)[22]: One for each Universe, one for each Dominion that covers the said Universes, and one for all Dominions that cover the entire Higher Dimension - The Infinite Spacetime. This should work as a backing that going by our standards would count as a higher dimension success just from the first one as a more superior "timeline" exists that has lower "timelines" within it.

Ultimate Existences are stated by a Third Realm being to be unrivaled and beyond imagination[88], and that they "transcend to a higher plane of existence" - "to the farthest reaches of spacetime, all paths of cultivation, of every lifeform". Their laws are imprinted within the Infinite Spacetime as they are the pillars of existence[84], the bedrock of its foundation - meaning UE are the foundation for everything be it lower or higher-dimensions.

one of these 4 Ultimate Existences is spacetime itself - Mother Stream. This is a High-Dimensional being who summoned just a part of it, as its not even a third-realm being.

Spacetime Island Lord looked at Xu Jingming and extended her right hand. Her palm was fair, but it seemed to hide endless spacetime, causing Redmond’s mind and consciousness to sink into it.
Whoosh! Whoosh! Whoosh!
Spacetime Island Lord immediately produced an endless high-dimensional river with guidance from her palm.
It was countless times larger than a cosmic river of spacetime. Even a universe was as tiny as gravel in front of it.
This is the Mother Stream! It nurtures the end of all cosmic spacetime. Redmond watched in amazement.
He knew that the universe didn’t exist a long, long time ago! The Mother Stream later came into existence, giving birth to universes and resulting in the existence of a concept known as a universe. This also completely changed the cultivation path of all high-dimensional lifeforms.

Click to expand...

Chapter 594

While another Ultimate, represent the Abyss just like how Xu Jingming is the Heart Realm.

I used to view the Abyss with prejudice and considered it sinful. It’s incredibly chaotic, and countless lunatics dwell here. Xu Jingming watched as two deranged Abyssal mutated beasts charged toward him. As they advanced, the beasts ignited with black lotus flames and disintegrated into ashes.
But in reality, the Abyss signifies an absence of laws. Its operating principles are that there are no principles, and it accommodates all possibilities! Xu Jingming realized that even those with good intentions and light in their hearts, like Eternal Tower Master, could still comprehend the Abyssal path.
The rules of each Abyssal space are determined by the corresponding layer’s Abyss Sovereign.
If an Abyss Sovereign so chooses, they can make their layer beautiful and filled with goodness.
Xu Jingming pondered. Countless layers of Abyssal space represent endless possibilities.

Chapter 763

Which is mentioned later that is just a projection of the true Abyss through all spacetimes. Where it even mentions to accomodate all possible principles.

Is this a super-miniature Abyss? At a single glance, Xu Jingming discerned the intricate model of the ancient tree within the sphere. Countless branches were tightly interwoven, with many hidden from view, defying prying eyes.
Xu Jingming remained unaware of the true vastness and intricacies of the Abyss.
The Abyss permeated countless spacetimes. All that Xu Jingming had witnessed thus far was a mere projection of the Abyss in this particular spacetime.

Chapter 787

And here is Xu Jingming, who is again stated to transcend all spacetimes at his level. Don't forget that there exist high-dimensions bellow his realm, so these should count too.

Within the vast expanse of an endless and towering palace, an unseen presence exerted its silent influence across every timeline, spacetime, and living being.
Inside one of the palace halls, a colossal figure occupied a throne, positioned atop a dais. With black hair and lurid skin, he possessed the appearance of a pure human.
Resting his chin in his right hand, he closed his eyes, seemingly lost in slumber.
His breaths were gentle, yet the ripples they generated reverberated throughout all timelines and the Heart Realm, transcending the boundaries of spacetime. The source of the chaotic aura that permeated the Heart Realm emanated from the rhythmic essence of this formless aura.

Chapter 806

When a being reaches this realm - Ultimate, their laws become one with these of the Infinite Spacetime, becoming the foundation of them.

The laws of the Heart Realm seamlessly merged with the infinite spacetime, benefiting its circulation. Henceforth, Xu Jingming’s laws became an integral part of the fundamental laws of infinite spacetime.
If his laws could merge with the laws of infinite spacetime, he would become the bedrock of its existence.
The four Ultimate beings are also the cornerstones and pillars of infinite spacetime. Our presence can render infinite spacetime more flawless, stable, and powerful. Xu Jingming understood this fact very well.

Chapter 812

Wouldn't this help the argument? As it shows that an Ultimate Existence can and is above all possible principles which should fit for the concept of space time.

Now Ultima's response to them if you don't want to scroll a bit above.

Alright. It's been 2 months so let's get this done with.

I see the problem, but would it change anything as one of these 4 Ultimate Existences is spacetime itself - Mother Stream. This is a High-Dimensional being who summoned just a part of it, as its not even a third-realm being.

Mother Stream being the concept of spacetime itself would be interesting as pointer towards 1-A, yeah. That said, I don't think this is really what's said in the text? At the very least, not in a way where it helps here. Like, to quote what you posted:

He knew that the universe didn’t exist a long, long time ago! The Mother Stream later came into existence, giving birth to universes and resulting in the existence of a concept known as a universe. This also completely changed the cultivation path of all high-dimensional lifeforms.

It seems that Mother Stream specifically originated the concept of "a universe," and the text then explicitly says "high-dimensional lifeforms" still existed even before this event. So clearly it isn't referring to it being the concept of dimensions or something of that like.

This also seems to reinforce what I said earlier ("Earlier" is a bit of an understatement but do forgive me there):

The laws of the Heart Realm seamlessly merged with the infinite spacetime, benefiting its circulation. Henceforth, Xu Jingming’s laws became an integral part of the fundamental laws of infinite spacetime.
If his laws could merge with the laws of infinite spacetime, he would become the bedrock of its existence.
The four Ultimate beings are also the cornerstones and pillars of infinite spacetime. Our presence can render infinite spacetime more flawless, stable, and powerful. Xu Jingming understood this fact very well.

A lot of the big stuff here really is just referring to the characters affecting and influencing a concrete "infinite spacetime," and not all possible numbers of dimensions, or something abstract that encompasses all these numbers, or whatever. Only other interesting thing is the talk of the Abyss having "endless possibilities," but obviously that's a bit too ambiguous to get anything worthwhile as 1-A evidence.

Beats me how high into 1-B this is, though.

1-A: @Deonment , @Orioreeem , @Planck69 , @Elizhaa , @Hjdjdhf
Low 1-A: @Setsuna_tenma , @Voidnether , @Infinitinet
1-B, likely Low 1-A: @Rikimarox2
1-B (unknown degree): @ZERGESS , Ultima_Reality
Unknown (not specified yet what tier): @Grabbing_dragon

Thanks for the inputs (hopefully) and sorry (I'm not) for the ping.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Thanks for the response, didn't have time to respond as I wasn't in the country.

I'll ping all users who voted till now so they can give once again an input on their past agreed tiers. If you need to read once again the reasoning then here it is.




Now Ultima's response to them if you don't want to scroll a bit above.



1-A: @Deonment , @Orioreeem , @Planck69 , @Elizhaa , @Hjdjdhf
Low 1-A: @Setsuna_tenma , @Voidnether , @Infinitinet
1-B, likely Low 1-A: @Rikimarox2
1-B (unknown degree): @ZERGESS , Ultima_Reality
Unknown (not specified yet what tier): @Grabbing_dragon

Thanks for the inputs (hopefully) and sorry (I'm not) for the ping.

agree with 1B

 

[Rikimarox2]

My stance is the same, I think 1-B, likely Low 1-A is fitting here, but if everyone agrees with just 1-B, I'm fine with that too.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

1B seems fine.

 

[Voidnether]

High 1-B should work instead of 1-B, assuming infinite spacetime there refers to dimensionality. Yeah, take me off from Low 1-A.

 

[Hjdjdhf]

bump

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I agree with everything except for Low 1-A or 1-A. I prefer 1-B until conclusive evidence says “infinite amount of dimensions” and not that space-time is infinite because the former is High 1-B and the latter is 2-A. The higher dimensions of things hasn't explicitly said anything about infinite spatial dimension so I just say 1-B even that is a bit scarce and heavily relies that these higher dimensions exist beyond the aforementioned five(onward) or else it'd be 1-C for Ultimate Existence.

 

[Zaratthustra]

I agree with everything except for Low 1-A or 1-A. I prefer 1-B until conclusive evidence says “infinite amount of dimensions” and not that space-time is infinite because the former is High 1-B and the latter is 2-A. The higher dimensions of things hasn't explicitly said anything about infinite spatial dimension so I just say 1-B even that is a bit scarce and heavily relies that these higher dimensions exist beyond the aforementioned five(onward) or else it'd be 1-C for Ultimate Existence.

You don't need an infinite amount of dimensions to reach Low 1-A or 1-A as long as the feats/statements fits the requirements.

 

[Zaratthustra]

New statistics for tiering till now.

Updated
High 1-B: Voidnether
1-B, likely Low 1-A: Rikimarox2 (1-B, likely Low 1-A or just 1-B for majority)
1-B (unknown degree): Ultima_Reality, Grabbing_dragon , @Rikimarox2 (1-B, likely Low 1-A or just 1-B for majority), Setsuna_tenma, VeryGoofyToddler2

No answer yet so I shall ping the heavens
1-A: @Deonment , @Orioreeem , @Planck69 , @Elizhaa , @Hjdjdhf
Low 1-A: @Infinitinet


Another thing to note is that we should come to an agreement on how high he would scale on 1-B if this is chosen (which likely will be going by majority till now).

 

[ZERGESS]

You don't need an infinite amount of dimensions to reach Low 1-A or 1-A as long as the feats/statements fits the requirements.

You mean as you explained that containing 1B structures makes it Low 1-A

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

You don't need an infinite amount of dimensions to reach Low 1-A or 1-A as long as the feats/statements fits the requirements.

I didn't say infinite dimensions were needed for Low 1-A or 1-A. I simply didn't agree with it based on the OP.

 

[Deonment]

New statistics for tiering till now.

Updated
High 1-B: Voidnether
1-B, likely Low 1-A: Rikimarox2 (1-B, likely Low 1-A or just 1-B for majority)
1-B (unknown degree): Ultima_Reality, Grabbing_dragon , @Rikimarox2 (1-B, likely Low 1-A or just 1-B for majority), Setsuna_tenma, VeryGoofyToddler2

No answer yet so I shall ping the heavens
1-A: @Deonment , @Orioreeem , @Planck69 , @Elizhaa , @Hjdjdhf
Low 1-A: @Infinitinet


Another thing to note is that we should come to an agreement on how high he would scale on 1-B if this is chosen (which likely will be going by majority till now).

My thoughts are the same as Riki's

 

[Elizhaa]

1-B seems like the safer option so I will agree with it.

 

[Planck69]

I don't mind 1-B either. I suppose we should decide the level within it though.

 

[Zaratthustra]

New statistics for tiering till now.

Updated
High 1-B: Voidnether
1-B, likely Low 1-A: Rikimarox2, Deonment (1-B, likely Low 1-A or just 1-B for majority)
1-B (unknown degree): Ultima_Reality, Grabbing_dragon , Rikimarox2, Deonment (1-B, likely Low 1-A or just 1-B for majority), Setsuna_tenma, VeryGoofyToddler2, Elizhaa Planck69

No answer yet so I shall ping the heavens
1-A: @Orioreeem , @Hjdjdhf
Low 1-A: @Infinitinet

Well, seems 1-B will be (expected it after Ultima decided on it).

Now does anyone got any input on how deep within this tier should Ultimate Existences be? I sincerely have no idea.

 

[Rikimarox2]

I mean, if we go with 1-B, I don't think we can get an actual number? If we went with "Infinite Space-time" to mean infinite dimensions, then that'll mean High 1-B, not 1-B.

So, either 1-B (Undefined number into it) or High 1-B (Infinite amount), methink at least based on what I remember from the scans.

 

[Hjdjdhf]

bump

 

[Zaratthustra]

Well, as it seem nothing has been mentioned additionally and its clear most people agreed on 1-B, then I'll update the profile with the changes tomorrow. I won't ask for the thread to be closed yet (as we can still discuss how "deep" within the tier Ultimate Existences are).

From what I remember just the tier remained to be agreed on. If you have anything else mention it as I'm open to any idea.

 

[Hjdjdhf]

Bump

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[Theglassman12]

Did these revisions ever go through?

 

[Zaratthustra]

Did these revisions ever go through?

I just need to update the profile. Been reworking its formatting (changing for an easier read with bullet points for powers) from the first key to the last and fixing some phrases and explanations for things...so I will update it tomorrow once I fully finish.

The only thing left to be debated or talked later is how high he actually scales in his tier (since even Ultima wasn't that sure, we'll go with baseline till then). So you can either close the thread or leave it open for further talks on this subject (not likely to happen from what I've seen).

Been waiting to see if anything new is said about the subject above and well...I've been playing (finished) Clair Obscur, Ghost of Tsushima and Cyberpunk (peak games).

 

[Theglassman12]

If the discussion here on the tiering is done then I can close it.

 

[Zaratthustra]

If the discussion here on the tiering is done then I can close it.

On that aspect its done, I think you should close it. I will make a new thread if I ever wish or someone else to continue with how many layers into the decided tier he will be.