The point is he pierced through his stomach again with a Kame hame ha and oblirated him entirely, that's literally ap, nothing suggest a massively weaker being like Krilin would've achieved such a feat.
He literally didn't do that. He pierced him with Dragon Fist first.
Also that's a non-argument. Who gives a shit about Krillin? It was sufficient enough to enable a massively weaker Goku to do so because that's what happened. Whether someone even weaker could do so doesn't matter, it's completely irrelevant.
Just becouse it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it's legit. The whataboutism I'm talking about comparing it to DBS is that both scaling chains literally do not make sense, but we still accept them, so there is no problem accepting another scaling chains other to not making sense for the fans.
That isn't how this works.
If they don't make sense, we change them. We don't accept shit that you actively coneede makes no sense, and then use that as an excuse to shove even more blatantly wrong agendas and scaling. If anything that's outright ban worthy.
And if this is an outlier, then literally any random fodder, even Krilin, being stronger than SSG Big Goku is an outlier, heck, we even have master roshi comparable to SSG, is that an outlier too?. Let's stop with the double standarts.
The hell are you talking about? Nobody said it was an outlier, you're just ignoring the very blatant caveat to the feat, in that Goku used a move literally millions of times stronger than his base state to blow a hole through the dude, and THEN fired off a KHH, into said gaping wound.
But even then, I don't give a damn about Super. You think those don't check out? Be my guest, go downgrade them. That's what you should be doing if you think they're outliers instead of using dogshit scaling to justify even more dogshit scaling, because that's literally your argument at this point.
No, in GT, the scaling is insane, that's it, just like in Super. So, two wrongs can make one right if that's the case.
No. In fact say that again and I'm legit reporting you. This thought process is an active detriment to this wiki. You're acknowledging it isn't accurate, it's bad, and instead of fixing it, you want to make it even worse? Not even the same thing mind you but a completely different thing worse?
And the worst part? You're not even right.
There being insane power cliffing and jumps doesn't make something wrong, if the interconnected scaling between things is still consistent, well then it is what it is. But that isn't what's happening here, you're straight up just ignoring the whole scene and going "a Goku explicitly weaker than his SSJ4 form from a few seconds ago, killed S17 with a KHH so he scales to his SSJ4 form from a moment ago", all while ignoring the entire context of that scene and the numerous caveats that make it not the case.
Regardless, Super Android 17 didn't lose any power or energy at all thanks to his Android nature.
If you rip a Android in half and they're on the ground literally dying, they're not gonna be as strong as they would be at fresh health. You're confusing having infinite energy with literally everything else. They're not even real androids, they're cyborgs ffs.
And again, I repeat, by our standarts you need the required AP to put someone like Super 17 down, there is no proof, I repeat, no proof of a massively weaker being replicating Goku's feat despite 17's vulnerability at the time, that's like saying a human with a gun would be able to kill 17 while he's absorbing energy, that's utter Madness and a complete NLF
The proof is he
did it. The reason he did it is because 17 had his torso blown out by an attack that does scale to SSJ4 Goku based on SSJ4 Goku's very own usage of said move eclipsing his own fusion. And said KHH hit him internally on top of that while said gaping wound is there. All while he stopped draining energy.
A gun isn't Goku. Would a bullet hurt him? We don't know. But was he weakened enough to where a 3-A attack could still kill him? Yes, because that's what happened. These arguments aren't even worth my time.
You're acting like Goku just fired one off and killed him, that isn't what happened, the fact I even need to explain this to you is asinine. Our standards don't agree with you because our standards say to actually consider context and not ignore it to wank, which, evidently, you're deliberately attempting to do given your yap about how two wrongs make a right.
