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Black Clover General Discussion thread

Worthless said:
If the guy who’s blatantly here just to piss me off because he knows I’m right and that pisses him off hadn’t shown up, this wouldn’t have escalated honestly. It’s already fine with Phantom as is, who was trying his best to circumvent the narrative and actual statements through headcanons.
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If you have a problem with something someone says or does. Please feel free to report it here. I hope all goes well for you all, happy scaling.
 
Worthless said:
If the guy who’s blatantly here just to piss me off because he knows I’m right and that pisses him off hadn’t shown up, this wouldn’t have escalated honestly. It’s already fine with Phantom as is, who was trying his best to circumvent the narrative and actual statements through headcanons.
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To be honest, I don't have anything to say to you anymore

So I just wish you good luck and I am not being sarcastic or anything, but mind you, I still don't like certain attitudes and not just from you, so just enjoy the debate if you can
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
To be honest, I don't have anything to say to you anymore

So I just wish you good luck and I am not being sarcastic or anything, but mind you, I still don't like certain attitudes and not just from you, so just enjoy the debate if you can
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You don't have to be annoyed by my attitude, as it was directed towards people who Initially treated my statement as bs. But yeah cheers
 
Worthless said:
You are not getting the point and it's sad. And thank you for accepting your defeat by finally acknowledging Asta statement. And please keep this in mind, Phantom: no one has ever matched or outmatched Lucifero at 50%, except for five horns Asta and real Lucius after 6 months, whom nobody scales. And no one has fought Julius at his full power.
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People scale to Lucius who is stronger than 100% Lucifero 😭 this isn’t hard to understand.
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
People scale to Lucius who is stronger than 100% Lucifero 😭 this isn’t hard to understand.
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I seriously believe you're not being serious. There's no way you can be this dense. Nobody even scales to the real Lucius yet, except maybe five horn Asta, which NOBODY scales.


Here I'll explain it briefly yet in a very comprehensible way why Asta not being stronger than Julius debunks that notion:

There wasn't any statement or implication that Asta had already surpassed Julius at the moment of his first encounter with the real Lucius. So, Ichika being unable to beat Asta before he fully mastered his Ki control automatically debunks the notion that Ichika and everyone else who scales to her, would stomp 50% Lucifero, especially when she can't even beat Asta, who was inferior to Julius. Unless you scale Julius above 50% Lucifero, which is another absurdity.
 
Worthless said:
I seriously believe you're not being serious. There's no way you can be this dense. Nobody even scales to the real Lucius yet, except maybe five horn Asta, which NOBODY scales.


Here I'll explain it briefly yet in a very comprehensible way why Asta not being stronger than Julius debunks that notion:

There wasn't any statement or implication that Asta had already surpassed Julius at the moment of his first encounter with the real Lucius. So, Ichika being unable to beat Asta before he fully mastered his Ki control automatically debunks the notion that Ichika and everyone else who scales to her, would stomp 50% Lucifero, especially when she can't even beat Asta, who was inferior to Julius. Unless you scale Julius above 50% Lucifero, which is another absurdity.
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Bro genuinely just can’t read. Base Lucius far surpasses 100% Lucifero. And Asta is comparable. And Lucifero quite literally can’t do anything against time magic and that was directly shown.we are given multiple hints that Lucius interferes with Julius fights. And then I direct statement of Lucius acknowledging Julius strength. Even more so since you keep bringing up the Julius statement (which you are misinterpreting) you obviously think he is stronger than asta. That would make him at least stronger than naalith. (And even someone like megicula) which means you also agree that something caused him to lose to patri)
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
Bro genuinely just can’t read. Base Lucius far surpasses 100% Lucifero. And Asta is comparable. And Lucifero quite literally can’t do anything against time magic and that was directly shown.we are given multiple hints that Lucius interferes with Julius fights. And then I direct statement of Lucius acknowledging Julius strength. Even more so since you keep bringing up the Julius statement (which you are misinterpreting) you obviously think he is stronger than asta. That would make him at least stronger than naalith. (And even someone like megicula) which means you also agree that something caused him to lose to patri)
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I'm sure you also realize that you don't actually have any evidence, not even a single piece to back up that claim. And there is no misinterpretation Asta and Lucius > Your baseless head canon. And it's funny how you think Damnatio + Baal + Purification equals/greater than 100% Lucifero when even at 50%, Lucifero still holds the title of the strongest devils in the entire underworld which even Lucius himself didn't disagree with. But nah. I'm not going to reason with you anymore. You are clearly mentally broken.
 
Why put an emphasis on expert?

As far as I'm concerned, I haven't seen a single person in this thread calling themselves that, much less pretending to have the one an only right answer.

Meanwhile, we've had to deal with your constant passive aggressiveness for the past months, along with your bragging about how others are wrong, as if powerscaling was only Black or White.

I have issues with how the verse looks too, but I'm not rubbing it in people's face about how absurd one's way of scaling is compared to another.
Look at you, in your second to last post, you were calling Feldway "mentally deranged". Why?

You're too old to be acting like this, over fictional powerscaling, of all things.

If you have issues with something, make a CRT, like everyone else, if you lose, you can still come back later with stronger arguments.

I promise you, it's not that serious.
 
Epsilon_R said:
Why put an emphasis on expert?

As far as I'm concerned, I haven't seen a single person in this thread calling themselves that, much less pretending to have the one an only right answer.

Meanwhile, we've had to deal with your constant passive aggressiveness for the past months, along with your bragging about how others are wrong, as if powerscaling was only Black or White.

I have issues with how the verse looks too, but I'm not rubbing it in people's face about how absurd one's way of scaling is compared to another.
Look at you, in your second to last post, you were calling Feldway "mentally deranged". Why?

You're too old to be acting like this, over fictional powerscaling, of all things.

If you have issues with something, make a CRT, like everyone else, if you lose, you can still come back later with stronger arguments.

I promise you, it's not that serious.
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It's all cool until you've been in the position where everyone around you keeps telling you you're wrong and treating like your argument is pulled out of thin air. I wasn’t even initially aggressive toward this fanbase until all of that. I literally got banned and insulted in your server for saying Julius would beat the Dark Triad and that Julius could kill Patri at any given moment, and now I’m the bad one for getting back for it? I was honestly not even aggressive when I initially came here until one of your people deliberately sent a YT link to annoy me, so don’t act like y’all are totally innocent and saints now. And obviously, I don't mean deranged in that way I was talking about how his common sense is gone so there's no point in reasoning to him
 
I've went and throughly checked the server, and not only are you not on the list of bans (implying you probably quit the serv on your own will), I could not even find a single trace of that conversation.

So either my phone is, by pure coincidence, not showing anything, or you're misremembering something.

Also, ffs, how many years ago was this? I already remember you being agressive towards Clover like, a year ago, this definitely isn't news.
Worthless said:
It's all cool until you've been in the position where everyone around you keeps telling you you're wrong and treating like your argument is pulled out of thin air. I wasn’t even initially aggressive toward this fanbase until all of that. I literally got banned and insulted in your server for saying Julius would beat the Dark Triad and that Julius could kill Patri at any given moment, and now I’m the bad one for getting back for it?
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Worthless said:
I was honestly not even aggressive when I initially came here until one of your people deliberately sent a YT link to annoy me, so don’t act like y’all are totally innocent and saints now. And obviously, I don't mean deranged in that way I was talking about how his common sense is gone so there's no point in reasoning to him
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And Here. Was this not you being passive aggressive? Or here perhaps?

Nobody here is acting like we're saint, you don't need to create a victim complex or hold a year+ old grudge that hardly anyone here remembers.
 
Speaking off, what do you think of the interpretation that Yami was having a hard time against Lightspeed because he was being beset by Morgen's Dark Magic? Is this a sufficient rebunk?
 
What a shame that Demon Light Magic only has one spell: Light Sword of Judgment, which is noted to be much faster than regular Light Magic. Other spells don’t mention any speed increase, not even the Light Shaft of Divine Punishment, which is only described as a power-up. Oh, I almost forgot to mention—Light Sword of Judgment isn’t light-speed. If it really were, we wouldn’t have seen Yami sweating while blocking Morgen’s attack.🥶
 
AstaDragon123 said:
What a shame that Demon Light Magic only has one spell: Light Sword of Judgment, which is noted to be much faster than regular Light Magic. Other spells don’t mention any speed increase, not even the Light Shaft of Divine Punishment, which is only described as a power-up. Oh, I almost forgot to mention—Light Sword of Judgment isn’t light-speed. If it really were, we wouldn’t have seen Yami sweating while blocking Morgen’s attack.🥶
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Shut up ty
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
Bro genuinely just can’t read. Base Lucius far surpasses 100% Lucifero. And Asta is comparable. And Lucifero quite literally can’t do anything against time magic and that was directly shown.we are given multiple hints that Lucius interferes with Julius fights. And then I direct statement of Lucius acknowledging Julius strength. Even more so since you keep bringing up the Julius statement (which you are misinterpreting) you obviously think he is stronger than asta. That would make him at least stronger than naalith. (And even someone like megicula) which means you also agree that something caused him to lose to patri)
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WHAT?

I think you mean that Lucius after absorbing 50% of Lucifer's power is superior to the other 50% that was in hell, right?
 
In any case, the speed thing... I feel there are two interpretations:

1)Creative difference, Simply the author changed his mind with all the past.

2)Ontological limit, Considering that it is based on Japanese mythology, Nothing can surpass light or darkness in any of its forms, they are inviolable principles.
 
I've started watching the anime quite recently and it's pretty good, are there any more episodes after episode 100th?
 
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