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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Chariot190 said:
And as we know, JoJo fans can't read, not even those who translate it can apparently because ive been parsing a bunch of chapters and shit lately and it's just totally translated wrong or missed crucial details, like sure do love random 8-C statements, a FTL statement, and a bunch of hax shit being lost in translation, some I don't even get, how the ** do you translate "several tens of meters" to "a few meters", there's literally a ***** 10 in the raw, how tf do you miss that.
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Wait, really?! Are you looking through the fan translations, the official translations, or both?
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Sukunas statements about Yuji's shortcomings do seem to be a bit unreliable considering his very obvious bias against him. He was wrong about the Yuta 50% statement when he said his CE was equal to Yuta around the time when he popped DE, or rather it could've been just a continuity error, and him glazing others just to spite Yuji is also something to be taken note of.
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There's no reason to assume the CE amount is wrong when he's known to have godly CE amount and efficiency.
Until he the second statement of his CE amount against Gojo Yuta he had used one DE after landing an abundance of Black Flashes to not only increase his output but also efficiency of his CE.
So I can't exactly see it being inconsistent at all.
 
Gokukid2005 said:
There's no reason to assume the CE amount is wrong when he's known to have godly CE amount and efficiency.
Until he the second statement of his CE amount against Gojo Yuta he had used one DE after landing an abundance of Black Flashes to not only increase his output but also efficiency of his CE.
So I can't exactly see it being inconsistent at all.
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The problem is that he also tanked 7 from Yuji that nerfs him and used a Domain + Fuga. Sure he landed Black Flashes, but Yuji was also nerfing him considerably. He even lost RCT
 
So, we know that Mahoraga took two Black Flashes from Gojo and was fine.

But he was going to get one shot by Red.

Although Sukuna does not tank Red, he wasn’t getting deleted by it. So we can conclude that Sukuna is more durable than Mahoraga, right? No.

Sukuna can’t tank Gojo’s Black Flash like Mahoraga does.

So the thing is:

Mahoraga gets one shot by Red. Sukuna does not.

Mahoraga tanks Gojo’s Black Flash. Sukuna does not.

So what do we do about this?
 
Sukuna would get both of his arms erased from reality if he took a Black Flash from Gojo be fr
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Mahoraga gets one shot by Red. Sukuna does not.

Mahoraga tanks Gojo’s Black Flash. Sukuna does not.
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Well, Mahoraga never actually was one-shot by Red, right? Gojo may have wanted to take out Mahoraga quickly, but that doesn't mean it would have happened.

When Gojo does use Red directly on Mahoraga, it has little effect. Of course Gojo is suffering from lowered output and Mahoraga had already gradually started adapting to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Gojo would have one-shot it from the start of the fight.
 
Damage3245 said:
Well, Mahoraga never actually was one-shot by Red, right? Gojo may have wanted to take out Mahoraga quickly, but that doesn't mean it would have happened.

When Gojo does use Red directly on Mahoraga, it has little effect. Of course Gojo is suffering from lowered output and Mahoraga had already gradually started adapting to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Gojo would have one-shot it from the start of the fight.
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Something never happening doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen. Gojo believed he could destroy Mahoraga in one hit, and immediately uses Red, so I don’t think there’s much reason to believe he couldn’t.

Mahoraga, who had already adapted to Red, was struck by it from a much weaker Gojo in addition to it being a low-output Red. So I don’t understand the point of this part of your comment. Mahoraga went from getting one-shot to tanking it.
 
It may not have been a regular Red that Gojo intended to one-shot him with but some changed up, fully chanted Red.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
So, we know that Mahoraga took two Black Flashes from Gojo and was fine.

But he was going to get one shot by Red.

Although Sukuna does not tank Red, he wasn’t getting deleted by it. So we can conclude that Sukuna is more durable than Mahoraga, right? No.

Sukuna can’t tank Gojo’s Black Flash like Mahoraga does.

So the thing is:

Mahoraga gets one shot by Red. Sukuna does not.

Mahoraga tanks Gojo’s Black Flash. Sukuna does not.

So what do we do about this?
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I can try and rationalize this

Maho seems to block it with his shoulder, so it wouldn't be hitting a vital area, especially considering he's like 10 feet tall, has a lot of bulk, and a Curse Spirit-like physiology

Plus, he's got mid tier regeneration, crazy endurance, and can use cursed energy strengthening by learning it via adaptation

The second Black Flash I can't really handwave other than "muh non-human physiology"

And Black Flash is ultimately just a really strong punch, whereas Red is an explosion. Plus Gojo never actually got to hit Sukuna with it when he wasn't amped

The final Purple pretty clearly illustrates that Sukuna is more durable than Mahoraga
 
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M3X_2.0 said:
So, we know that Mahoraga took two Black Flashes from Gojo and was fine.

But he was going to get one shot by Red.

Although Sukuna does not tank Red, he wasn’t getting deleted by it. So we can conclude that Sukuna is more durable than Mahoraga, right? No.

Sukuna can’t tank Gojo’s Black Flash like Mahoraga does.

So the thing is:

Mahoraga gets one shot by Red. Sukuna does not.

Mahoraga tanks Gojo’s Black Flash. Sukuna does not.

So what do we do about this?
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Two words, Maximum Output.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Should we make an anime page for JJK scaling? Or should we wait for the anime to come back to see how far it deviates from the manga?
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No. Besides the obvious want to use higher feats or new feats, the anime profiles will be 99% copies of the manga pages. Anime profiles should be made for anime with an entire story change.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
The problem is that he also tanked 7 from Yuji that nerfs him and used a Domain + Fuga. Sure he landed Black Flashes, but Yuji was also nerfing him considerably. He even lost RCT
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It nerfs his control of his body and his output, nothing to do with his efficiency nor CE amount
 
JnSteHar002 said:


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What could Yuta possibly do when Kenjaku says “Domain Expansion”. This shows people didn’t read the manga. They didn’t send Yuta there, Yuta wanted it to be him who kills Kenjaku and assumed Rika would be needed to kill all the curses. Its got nothing to do with him having to fight Sukuna after, if anything he was the first person they picked as the main fighting force.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
It's clearly mentioned it's nerfing his CE amount. Go read chapter,250. Yuji & Yuta vs Sukuna
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No where is it ever said his CE amount is reducing thanks to Yuji.
Here it is stated his CE amount is Yuta level, and again its reiterated after so many soul shaking punches and even a domain expansion that his CE amount is still at that level and that's because of his CE efficiency.
His CE only reached that level because of his fight with Gojo.
Yuji's soul punches ONLY affects Sukuna's CE output and his control over his body. In VIZ and in TCB.
He reiterates it again a chapter later too. VIZ and TCB.
 
Gokukid2005 said:
No where is it ever said his CE amount is reducing thanks to Yuji.
Here it is stated his CE amount is Yuta level, and again its reiterated after so many soul shaking punches and even a domain expansion that his CE amount is still at that level and that's because of his CE efficiency.
His CE only reached that level because of his fight with Gojo.
Yuji's soul punches ONLY affects Sukuna's CE output and his control over his body. In VIZ and in TCB.
He reiterates it again a chapter later too. VIZ and TCB.
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My bad. It was chapter 252
TCB & Viz
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
My bad. It was chapter 252
TCB & Viz
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This is explained in the very same chapter.
Uraume says it clearly that his CE wavers depending on how interested he is in the fight.
After beating Yuta and achieving victory his CE goes down and when he becomes interested in Maki fully, he not only gets fast enough to blitz her but follows it up with a black flash.
After a bunch more chapters, fights and soul shaking punches, his CE is still Yuta level which means Uraume's observation was correct.
 
Gokukid2005 said:
This is explained in the very same chapter.
Uraume says it clearly that his CE wavers depending on how interested he is in the fight.
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Uraume is talking about Sukuna's output while Hakari is clearly talking about amount. Look at his words he says his cursed energy is withering away not his output is withering away. While Uraume is just talking about Sukuna is not taking them seriously.
Gokukid2005 said:
After beating Yuta and achieving victory his CE goes down and when he becomes interested in Maki fully, he not only gets fast enough to blitz her but follows it up with a black flash.
After a bunch more chapters, fights and soul shaking punches, his CE is still Yuta level which means Uraume's observation was correct.
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Chapter 250 Sukuna states he has same level of CE as Yuta
  • Took a massive damage from JL. He healed the damage. He also needed to heal from Yuta and Yuji's damage. Other minor damages from later chapter. RCT should have chipped him away atleast some extent
  • Then dude used DE. Which is stated to take too much CE and he also used Fuga.
  • BF also seems to use CE. He landed 5BF's. BF doesn't amp CE amount. So it's just gonna only amp his output.
  • Let's not talk about him spamming dismantle and Cleave and using CE for reinforcements.
After all of this you are saying Sukuna still had same CE as Chapter 250 level workout dropping?
 
Is everyone ready for the Gojo and or Kenjaku return tommorow?
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