Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[ReaperAndBlues]

IQ 900 Reaper

I'm simply the honored one

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I'm simply the honored one

Yeah no wonder why the other bleach goons call us stupid, it’s they who are the stupid ones. Cope

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Did Ui Ui teleport Yuta from Lake Gosho to Shinjuku, or did he run?

No one knows. Though I'd honestly say it's possible he just straight up ran there. The Kenjaku fight would've ended around the time of the end of the Kashimo fight or the middle of the Higuruma fight and in that timeframe it's possible Yuta could've run in. The main reason is mostly because Todo, who's obviously way slower, showed up to the fight way after all of that happened which could be because he had to run there and it'd be weird if Ui Ui grabbed Yuta but not him. Though, it is possible they did teleport but Todo stayed on the sidelines incase Malevolent Shrine came back as a backup plan so who knows.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

No one knows. Though I'd honestly say it's possible he just straight up ran there. The Kenjaku fight would've ended around the time of the end of the Kashimo fight or the middle of the Higuruma fight and in that timeframe it's possible Yuta could've run in. The main reason is mostly because Todo, who's obviously way slower, showed up to the fight way after all of that happened which could be because he had to run there and it'd be weird if Ui Ui grabbed Yuta but not him. Though, it is possible they did teleport but Todo stayed on the sidelines incase Malevolent Shrine came back as a backup plan so who knows.

That would be a supersonic level feat, right?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

That would be a supersonic level feat, right?

Depends on the timeframe. Lake Gosho according to google is 522.9 km away from Shinjuku via walking. If we use 5 min as a highball, that's 1743 m/s aka hypersonic and then somewhere around 30 min would be 290.5 m/s aka subsonic+, so like I said depends on what the assumed timeframe is

 

[Arkenis]

If it helps, @PowerToScale updated the calc after that note was made and @Agnaa then said the method is valid but hasn't found the time to properly evaluate everything else in the calc (the assumptions, numbers etc.)

That doesn't address what he said. Agna just says the method is fine. We should get other members though.

 

[JnSteHar002]

That would be a supersonic level feat, right?

Depends on the timeframe. Lake Gosho according to google is 522.9 km away from Shinjuku via walking. If we use 5 min as a highball, that's 1743 m/s aka hypersonic and then somewhere around 30 min would be 290.5 m/s aka subsonic+, so like I said depends on what the assumed timeframe is

I think there was a calc that put it at the hypersonic-ish range but can't remember where it was. It also depends on the time and exact distance. There's the 5 mins to 30 mins like you said @AbaddonTheDisappointment but also did Yuta go along a standard road/path that say Google Maps would recommend or could he sense the fight and went straight through any woods, jump across buildings etc.

 

[Arkenis]

I doubt they'd waste time having Yuta run hundreds of km. Todo's swapping range is probably just very large due to the bv increase.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Though, it is possible they did teleport but Todo stayed on the sidelines incase Malevolent Shrine came back as a backup plan so who knows.

I believe this is the case. Even before Shinjuku Showdown fight started his role was staying put until Sukuna pops his domain.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

I doubt they'd waste time having Yuta run hundreds of km. Todo's swapping range is probably just very large due to the bv increase.

But he still needs something to swap with, and we have no proof that anyone got swapped.

 

[Arkenis]

But he still needs something to swap with, and we have no proof that anyone got swapped.

Almost anything can be used if its imbued with ce. Probably just used a rock.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I doubt they'd waste time having Yuta run hundreds of km. Todo's swapping range is probably just very large due to the bv increase.

Funny thing Ui Ui should be able to teleport them back if he can send them to kill Kenjaku. There is no reason to assume they ran.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

But he still needs something to swap with, and we have no proof that anyone got swapped.

Mei Mei's crows or Ui Ui just teleported them back and had Todo stay back at base til he was needed

 

[M3X_2.0]

Depends on the timeframe. Lake Gosho according to google is 522.9 km away from Shinjuku via walking. If we use 5 min as a highball, that's 1743 m/s aka hypersonic and then somewhere around 30 min would be 290.5 m/s aka subsonic+, so like I said depends on what the assumed timeframe is

Wait Gege to confirm the whole fight lasted for like 30 minutes from Kashimo to Yuji now

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Wait Gege to confirm the whole fight lasted for like 30 minutes from Kashimo to Yuji now

When was that?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Mei Mei's crows or Ui Ui just teleported them back and had Todo stay back at base til he was needed

Yuta's cursed energy is easy to notice because of his sloppy control & large storage. Sukuna even noticed Gota pulling up behind the dust smoke. Yuta instantly jumped in front of Sukuna out of nowhere, lol.

It's highly likely that Ui Ui teleported them back. The idea that they ran from there and Sukuna didn't notice Yuta's large amount of cursed energy seems like a far-fetched interpretation. Todo doesn't have much range for 500 kilometers. I don't think even with a Binding Vow, he could pull off such a long reach with his teleportation technique.

 

[M3X_2.0]

When was that?

Never. I’m saying that that’s something his dumbass would say.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

When was that?

Never. I’m saying that that’s something his dumbass would say.

Chapter 235 lasted for 41s? I guess
Chapter 236-267 should be lasting for around 20min if we go by assumption each chapter is around same length.

 

[JnSteHar002]

That doesn't address what he said. Agna just says the method is fine. We should get other members though.

Not really following but do agree about getting more members. I know @SunDaGamer was brought up in the comments; anybody else you can think off?

 

[Gokukid2005]

How weak Sukuna actually is in each fight? I've been wanting to do this for a few weeks now and this might help us figure out a better scaling for post Gojo fight Sukuna.

Gray: Neutral, injuries from Gojo fight.
Green: Healing, getting his output and RCT back
Red: Debuffs

Vs Kashimo

• Sukuna started the fight without one hand, severely damaged.
• He slowly healed the surface injuries after that.
• He heals everything with his transformation.

After Kashimo, nothing really happened with his regen, output or anything.

Vs Yuji and Higuruma

• Took a punch from Yuji, who's decreasing his output

Vs Yuta and Yuji

• Despite the punch from Yuji, Sukuna was still recovering his RCT.
• Punched again by Yuji, decreasing hit output.
• Another attack from Yuji.
• More attacks from Yuji.
• Another one.
• Three more.
• His CT output was weakning even more.
• Took Jacob's Ladder, which disrupts the connection between Sukuna and Megumi.
• Took a final punch from Yuji that was able to access Megumi's souls.

Vs Maki

• Had his heart sliced by the Soul Split Katana, which cuts the soul. This makes Sukuna use CE to heal his heart and make it beat.
• Hit a Black Flash

Vs Miguel's gang

• A hit from Yuji
• Hit a Black Flash
• His condition is likely to improve
• Another Black Flash
• The output of his CT has improved
• Another Black Flash
• A hit from Yuji
• Every hit from Yuji decreases his output and body control.

Vs Yuji

• Took a Black Flash from Yuji
• Second Black Flash
• Possibly another Black Flash from Sukuna
• Another Black Flash
• One more
• Again
• Again
• Final Black Flash

Vs Jujutsu High

• After 7 Black Flashes, Yuji prevented Sukuna from recovering his RCT output.

Vs Itadori and Todo

• A hit from Itadori
• A kick from Yuji
• Another punch from him
• Got pushed by him
• Another Black Flash from Yuji
• Hit a Black Flash on Todo
• A punch in the face by Yuji
• Got hit with a Dismantle directly on the bondary of his soul and Megumi's.
• Hit a Black Flash on Todo again
• These two Black Flashes he hit were enough to get his RCT output back.

Vs Itadori

• A hit from Yuji
• Another one
• Multiple hits from Yuji
• Another multiple hits from Yuji
• Another one
• His RCT output cannot keep up with the punches decreasing it.
• Was hit by Nobara's Resonace CT, which affects the soul
• Was hit by Yuji's Domain sure hit (probably directly in the soul, need confirmation)
• Another hit from Yuji
• Another one also vomited one finger
• Another one
• Final Black Flash from Itadori.

Conclusion

• During the arc, everyone seems to be comparable to everyone, but in regards to scaling to Sukuna:
• Kashimo, Higuruma, Yuji and Yuta fought the healthiest Sukuna.
• The weakest Sukuna is from the current fight.
• Yuji's punches don't seem to have any effect when only one is hit, multiple punches need to be hit in order to decrease the output.

• Was hit by Yuji's Domain sure hit (probably directly in the soul, need confirmation)

Was definitely a soul dismantle since that was the point of him opening his domain so it was confirmed to hit.
Another thing is Megumi fighting back in the last 2 chapters should also reduce his output and body control just like when he first took over.

 

[Arkenis]

Not really following but do agree about getting more members. I know @SunDaGamer was brought up in the comments; anybody else you can think off?

Kingtempest since he had issues originally.

 

[JnSteHar002]

Thought this was interesting enough to share

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Thought this was interesting enough to share

"Tight Kubo"

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Thought this was interesting enough to share

Theres no Big Three, its just Big One

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Thought this was interesting enough to share

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[Giannysmag]

Thought this was interesting enough to share

TotallyNotMark my GOAT

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I agree Uraume might have killed him when he is not in Jackpot bur definitely not Fuga. Lol. It doesn't make sense for them to be close to MS range.

 

[Giannysmag]

I agree Uraume might have killed him when he is not in Jackpot bur definitely not Fuga. Lol. It doesn't make sense for them to be close to MS range.

Ok but like... It'd be really funny if they did die to Fuga

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ok but like... It'd be really funny if they did die to Fuga

I mean yeah but the problem is Fuga range is inside MS though? If they were already inside the MS they would have gotten hit by Cleave before.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I mean yeah but the problem is Fuga range is inside MS though? If they were already inside the MS they would have gotten hit by Cleave before.

It just uses the dust created by malevolent shrine, it could technically extend out of it just via the actual explosion expanding or just the dust literally moving

Speaking of, I pixel scaled the panel using one of the buildings it can literally get like 650 m as the diameter lol

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It just uses the dust created by malevolent shrine, it could technically extend out of it just via the actual explosion expanding or just the dust literally moving

Speaking of, I pixel scaled the panel using one of the buildings it can literally get like 650 m as the diameter lol

Intresting. I thought it would only covers inside of MS.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Let’s keep an eye

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

He uses his unique natural-born physical abilities to fistfight cursed spirits inta submission.

LMAO.

 

[Giannysmag]

I mean yeah but the problem is Fuga range is inside MS though? If they were already inside the MS they would have gotten hit by Cleave before.

They were close enough for a stray spark to hit and kill both of them trust

 

[Rosa]

About the Yuta travelling back to Shinjuku, I think it's fine for that to be the case. Ui Ui mentions a limit on his ability to teleport people's souls per month and I don't see why his other application would be any different (if only simply having more usages) as we've never seen a CT operate that way, we even see when Ui Ui picked up Higuruma he'd bring Kirara but when going to pick up Kusakabe he didn't, implying he couldn't. So given we see Ui Ui teleport Yuta twice after Yuta travels to and from Kenjaku, seems like he just had to sprint there and back which would also explain why he felt bad for taking so long despite it being a single page fight.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I hope they add something instead of just being all of the episodes together

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The Toji calc was unusable for many reasons, people gotta stop propping up rejected/unevaluated Hypersonic to MHS calcs of feats other than Kashimo's stuff to prove consistency

Couldn't that feat of Toji be used for reaction speed tho? The main problem in the calc is the distance that Toji traveled, but the timeframe seems to be fine as far as I can see. The main problem could be the thicknesses since the shirt that Toji is using seems to be way too big to fit him propely

This wouldn't scale to anyone or it would be still a outlier

 

[Rosa]

I think the lower end of the calc, which uses the upper end of cloth thickness alongside just the distance of his torso as a bare minimum, is very reasonable

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

"Subsonic speed is actually fast"

Average manga bullshit: