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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Me when Kenjaku takes over Yujo’s body after the five minutes and lets Sukuna eat him, giving Sukuna limitless and six eyes. Then the chapter hard cuts to everyone dead and Sukuna fighting the awakened merger and JJK ends there.
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Arkenis said:
How would he close the plot point about the merger? It's the very reason their here now and would be unfortunate to drop it.
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The merger could just not happen. Like, it's pretty much the goal of the cast right now to not let that happen. So, they could just succeed and that's enough to address it. Especially since it's essentially the pesky remnant of a character who already got what they wanted.
 
Yea I don't get why people think the Merger has to happen. It could happen and i wouldn't put it past Gege but it's not essential to happen for the plot to conclude in a satisfying way

If anything it's the worst case scenario for the cast
 
Theres still that theory inverse that usa want to blow up the Culling Game with nuclear bombs

But I know that its almost impossible for something like sorcerers vs mankind. I'm mainly just joking
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
The arc ends, the merge doesnt happen, Sukuna is dead

but now the world knows about sorcerers
Final arc is sorcerers vs mankind
USA wants to use cursed energy as oil, while China just want to blow up Japan
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an arc like this could either downgrade the verse massively or upscale the verse. If we have our top tiers getting tagged by bullets and damaged by missiles, we're cooked, but if they're running through tanks and shit whilst blitzing artillery fire we're so up.
 
If Miguel has stats comparable to 20F Sukuna and his buff / debuff CT, but has no RCT, no DE, no anti-domain techniques, etc., and assuming the fingers are additive increases to stats and everything (20 = 100%, 10 = 50%, 2 = 10%, etc), what version of Sukuna is Miguel beating? 1F? 3F? 5F? 10F? 15F?
 
Rosa said:
If Miguel has stats comparable to 20F Sukuna and his buff / debuff CT, but has no RCT, no DE, no anti-domain techniques, etc., and assuming the fingers are additive increases to stats and everything (20 = 100%, 10 = 50%, 2 = 10%, etc), what version of Sukuna is Miguel beating? 1F? 3F? 5F? 10F? 15F?
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I'd say somewhere in the 10 - 15 finger range
 
BeTheWay1rst said:
IP Man no to low diff G🤯/jo in hand to hand combat https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ip_Man_(Donnie_Yen) even Frank https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Frank_(Ip_Man) lol 🤣
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Idk why you thought of bringing up a crossover battle where I simply just posted a vid that goes over what gojo demonstrated. Nothing about "Gojo vs IP man"
But let's take that bait of yours then.
Given Gojo's vast arsenal of martial arts that he has on his belt, he's neg diffing them in skill.
You can even watch the video that goes over IP Man, and the slight differences between gojo and IP man. Where IP man is noted to have some weakness with long range due to his Footwork, Gojo does not and is a mixed martial arts fighter allowing him to change his style easily for another style.
Anyways.

A compilation of JJK martial arts so far. Manga. Fanbook and interviews and Vol 0.5 book.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Idk why you thought of bringing up a crossover battle where I simply just posted a vid that goes over what gojo demonstrated. Nothing about "Gojo vs IP man"
But let's take that bait of yours then.
Given Gojo's vast arsenal of martial arts that he has on his belt, he's neg diffing them in skill.
You can even watch the video that goes over IP Man, and the slight differences between gojo and IP man. Where IP man is noted to have some weakness with long range due to his Footwork, Gojo does not and is a mixed martial arts fighter allowing him to change his style easily for another style.
Anyways.

A compilation of JJK martial arts so far. Manga. Fanbook and interviews and Vol 0.5 book.
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Do you know that in Martial Art there are also level ? 😥
IP Man is a Great Master who is also above other Great Masters who are above Masters who are above Black Belts who are above ............................ who are above peoples who knows somes moves from Martial Art Schools(JJK Characters).
IP Man is also more skilled, experienced, versatile.
No JJK Charcter get past that point in IP Man movies


And even if they can, they stop here
 
BeTheWay1rst said:
Do you know that in Martial Art there are also level ? 😥
IP Man is a Great Master who is also above other Great Masters who are above Masters who are above Black Belts who are above
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Ye and we have Jujutsu sorcerers that have senses far sharper than what these scrubs can ever have, have insane growth levels etc so on. They busy comprehending more difficult skills than some hand to hand skills
Then we have gojo casually demonstrating IP man levels of skill already while mixing it with other martial arts

of course u wouldn't know this because you're busy trying to conjure up ways to bait about IP man vs Gojo in skill and how to downplay JJK skill at the same time.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
They busy comprehending more difficult skills than some hand to hand skills
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Please, prove it, Prove that jujutsu skill are more difficult, go ask Gege and show me his answer 😎
The fact that Gege himself made the strongest Jujutsu based on a debunked paradox(it wasn't even a paradox to begin with 🤣) and his Black Flash shit make me think that he isn't a credible source.
Mister 2 times infinity, sorry, now he is at march🎶
 
Idk learning ce control doesn't seem to be hard as their brains are changed to do so, stuff like rct and precise control seem difficult for a vast majority of them. I doubt learning martial arts is something far harder though most aren't very martial arts focused nor do they show any mastery over it. Is what Gojo even did something hard in the fighting style used?
 
Arkenis said:
Idk learning ce control doesn't seem to be hard as their brains are changed to do so, stuff like rct and precise control seem difficult for a vast majority of them. I doubt learning martial arts is something far harder though most aren't very martial arts focused nor do they show any mastery over it. Is what Gojo even did something hard in the fighting style used?
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I'm not gonna say Gojo is a martial arts master, but I don't recall Ip Man dodging a rope and hands at the same time

The difference in medium leaves Gojo's movements less grounded in reality. Particularly stuff like him utilizing impressive kicks in combos rather than in isolation

At the very least, he is good at employing certain martial arts principles to great effect, if his hand-to-hand showings are anything to go off of
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Theres no skill wank
Gun just posted a video explaning Gojo's style
Idk why ya all are so mad cuz a youtuber made a comparasion between Gojo and Ip (Since ya know, mappa used his move set as a basis to animate Gojo)
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Gun didn't just post a vid explaining Gojo's style. Gun said Gojo's negging Ip Man in skill, then BeTheWay1rst disagreed. Think most JJK readers have the perception the characters are some crazy skill gods so thats why I said that which seems to be the case here.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
I mean tbh, Ip is just the classical japonese guy in movies that beat s lot of random guys and thats it. Its not a insane claim to say that someone is more skilled than him
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Tbf, the "random guys" are other martial artists. But I find it hard to buy the claim that he's that much superior to a martial artist with animanga movements lmao
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
You got the order of events wrong. Gun linked a video that explained Gojo's fighting style and said it was insightful, then BeTheWay1rst said Ip Man neg diffs in skill
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Yeah thats what started this, I’m talking about what happened after which Gun said Gojo’s negging Ip Man, its why I said jjk wank.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Tbf, the "random guys" are other martial artists. But I find it hard to buy the claim that he's that much superior to a martial artist with animanga movements lmao
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Those other guys are masters who look up to Ip Man. Like sure through Gojo’s superior speed and senses he’s got better movement but that isn’t really about skill.
 
BeTheWay1rst said:
Please, prove it, Prove that jujutsu skill are more difficult, go ask Gege and show me his answer 😎
The fact that Gege himself made the strongest Jujutsu based on a debunked paradox(it wasn't even a paradox to begin with 🤣) and his Black Flash shit make me think that he isn't a credible source.
Mister 2 times infinity, sorry, now he is at march🎶
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I'm kinda gonna go on some long chattery here about various points from the series and bring them up and explain. Just heads up for any here:

Why wouldn't it be more difficult. One is A supernatural element that has VERY lots of things to do with your mentality, control of emotions, fortitude and all that. You then use that to do various things that involves your brain. Ct's in general pose a strain on your brain to begin with.

“Since Gojo always has his infinity on, he uses RCT lil by lil to reduce the burden on his brain. But when CT gets burnt out due to domain, it results in overstrain. This is different from usual exhaustion & fatigue users feel from using CT”
Do you see martial arts straining their brains from just being more precise and skilled in knowing how to throw hands? No you don't.
You also don't see them learning how to precisely enhance your body, how to correctly flow it, how to generate it, etc. They don't also have to be precise enough to affect the deeper parts of the body, like the senses or the eye sight, which requires far more control than the martial arts IP man and the others present, technically speaking.
Or heck the overall body like the brain too.
That's far more difficult already as it is. Of course that doesn't quite directly translate to being more skilled in h2h. But they sure are dealing with more difficult shit here.
Do IP man even have zone type shit for himself and the others like JJK characters do? When they get in that they just become much better, and improve from it afterwards the zone is over, in pretty much everything so to speak.
I guarantee you controlling some energy whilst moving your body in tandem with it to flow it and reinforce yourself whilst hitting people, is more difficult. Especially to then use specific martial arts styles where it isn't as simple as just throwing basic punch and kick.

Answer me this. Is IP man as versatile as Maki is with the amount of martial arts she has on her belt from a very young age, in some mere years of proper training? (After becoming a student) I don't think you can argue he is. Infact having that many and being that proficient on so many low-key just tells me that Maki straight up might be easily better. Not to mention the more experienced Jujutsu sorcerers like Gojo and many more with a lot of battles on their belt.
Either way. Like I said. Having far better senses like JJK does is pretty handy in analysing your opponent's movement, minute details and so on, especially when you get stronger and better from battles. You actively learn better through such detailed observation, something that strong JJK characters in CE reinforcement (Or Toji and Maki) are real good at, especially Gojo.
Infact Yuji is quite easily a really good example now that I think about it.
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After locking real deep in, refining his mindset and controlling his emotions far more better. The amp he received in Jujutsu, allowed him to quite literally get far better in skill, based on how he's more able to easily read the intent and minute details from his opponent, Choso who is also quite skilled. Went from struggling, to getting far better in skill, all whilst on one hand. You can read this in chapter 105
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Another example is how Sukuna and Gojo casually just sometimes fight upside down or sideways on buildings, especially Mahoraga himself or Agito. Not really impeded by such angle in the environment, whilst also being able to attach themselves to the surface casually with no issue. This just further proves my point on how better senses in JJK and the like makes body control far more efficient and controlled. Like how Yuji despite not being the type of person to be involved in fighting before he became a sorcerer, is quite proficient and good at fighting, especially in being proficient with Knives. Which again points the importance of how CE low key might just make you better in handling or moving in practically everything. (Makes sense with Maki being so proficient on so many martial art styles too lmao)
By the way idk why you brought up infinity and mach 3. We talking about skill here and how Jujutsu related stuff is more difficult than "normal" martial arts.

(actually now that I think about it, doesn't gojo utilise some sort of pressure point against Yuji beginning of the series after fighting Sukuna and showing off some Wing Chun moves? All casual too on that pressure point. )
One last thing that I thought of. Gojo and Sukuna still displaying martial arts after brain damage is honestly quite impressive ngl.
 
Btw is it just me or does clicking on imgur in VSBW not work?
Like when I try to click and get redirected to the imgur upload containing the images, shit just doesn't work. Dunno if that's a mobile issue or not. What about yall?
 
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