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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Sir_Marvulous said:
You got the order of events wrong. Gun linked a video that explained Gojo's fighting style and said it was insightful, then BeTheWay1rst said Ip Man neg diffs in skill
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Yeah thats what started this, I’m talking about what happened after which Gun said Gojo’s negging Ip Man, its why I said jjk wank.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Tbf, the "random guys" are other martial artists. But I find it hard to buy the claim that he's that much superior to a martial artist with animanga movements lmao
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Those other guys are masters who look up to Ip Man. Like sure through Gojo’s superior speed and senses he’s got better movement but that isn’t really about skill.
 
BeTheWay1rst said:
Please, prove it, Prove that jujutsu skill are more difficult, go ask Gege and show me his answer 😎
The fact that Gege himself made the strongest Jujutsu based on a debunked paradox(it wasn't even a paradox to begin with 🤣) and his Black Flash shit make me think that he isn't a credible source.
Mister 2 times infinity, sorry, now he is at march🎶
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I'm kinda gonna go on some long chattery here about various points from the series and bring them up and explain. Just heads up for any here:

Why wouldn't it be more difficult. One is A supernatural element that has VERY lots of things to do with your mentality, control of emotions, fortitude and all that. You then use that to do various things that involves your brain. Ct's in general pose a strain on your brain to begin with.

“Since Gojo always has his infinity on, he uses RCT lil by lil to reduce the burden on his brain. But when CT gets burnt out due to domain, it results in overstrain. This is different from usual exhaustion & fatigue users feel from using CT”
Do you see martial arts straining their brains from just being more precise and skilled in knowing how to throw hands? No you don't.
You also don't see them learning how to precisely enhance your body, how to correctly flow it, how to generate it, etc. They don't also have to be precise enough to affect the deeper parts of the body, like the senses or the eye sight, which requires far more control than the martial arts IP man and the others present, technically speaking.
Or heck the overall body like the brain too.
That's far more difficult already as it is. Of course that doesn't quite directly translate to being more skilled in h2h. But they sure are dealing with more difficult shit here.
Do IP man even have zone type shit for himself and the others like JJK characters do? When they get in that they just become much better, and improve from it afterwards the zone is over, in pretty much everything so to speak.
I guarantee you controlling some energy whilst moving your body in tandem with it to flow it and reinforce yourself whilst hitting people, is more difficult. Especially to then use specific martial arts styles where it isn't as simple as just throwing basic punch and kick.

Answer me this. Is IP man as versatile as Maki is with the amount of martial arts she has on her belt from a very young age, in some mere years of proper training? (After becoming a student) I don't think you can argue he is. Infact having that many and being that proficient on so many low-key just tells me that Maki straight up might be easily better. Not to mention the more experienced Jujutsu sorcerers like Gojo and many more with a lot of battles on their belt.
Either way. Like I said. Having far better senses like JJK does is pretty handy in analysing your opponent's movement, minute details and so on, especially when you get stronger and better from battles. You actively learn better through such detailed observation, something that strong JJK characters in CE reinforcement (Or Toji and Maki) are real good at, especially Gojo.
Infact Yuji is quite easily a really good example now that I think about it.
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After locking real deep in, refining his mindset and controlling his emotions far more better. The amp he received in Jujutsu, allowed him to quite literally get far better in skill, based on how he's more able to easily read the intent and minute details from his opponent, Choso who is also quite skilled. Went from struggling, to getting far better in skill, all whilst on one hand. You can read this in chapter 105
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Another example is how Sukuna and Gojo casually just sometimes fight upside down or sideways on buildings, especially Mahoraga himself or Agito. Not really impeded by such angle in the environment, whilst also being able to attach themselves to the surface casually with no issue. This just further proves my point on how better senses in JJK and the like makes body control far more efficient and controlled. Like how Yuji despite not being the type of person to be involved in fighting before he became a sorcerer, is quite proficient and good at fighting, especially in being proficient with Knives. Which again points the importance of how CE low key might just make you better in handling or moving in practically everything. (Makes sense with Maki being so proficient on so many martial art styles too lmao)
By the way idk why you brought up infinity and mach 3. We talking about skill here and how Jujutsu related stuff is more difficult than "normal" martial arts.

(actually now that I think about it, doesn't gojo utilise some sort of pressure point against Yuji beginning of the series after fighting Sukuna and showing off some Wing Chun moves? All casual too on that pressure point. )
One last thing that I thought of. Gojo and Sukuna still displaying martial arts after brain damage is honestly quite impressive ngl.
 
Btw is it just me or does clicking on imgur in VSBW not work?
Like when I try to click and get redirected to the imgur upload containing the images, shit just doesn't work. Dunno if that's a mobile issue or not. What about yall?
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Why wouldn't it be more difficult. One is A supernatural element that has VERY lots of things to do with your mentality, control of emotions, fortitude and all that. You then use that to do various things that involves your brain. Ct's in general pose a strain on your brain to begin with.
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Do you really think Martial Art are only about throwing basic punch and kick ? Do you even know the meaning of Martial Art ?
Bro, stop right here 😐


Read this and you will stop being a JJK simp
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BeTheWay1rst said:
Do you really think Martial Art are only about throwing basic punch and kick ? Do you even know the meaning of Martial Art ?
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Did I say that? No lol.
I'm aware that martial arts can have things to do with the mind. Infact I even mentioned that and brought it up there in that imgur link, which shows an image of Taido principles and how they correlate to Yuji there, given his usage of Taido as well meaning that one can make that connection between.
Never did I imply it is just basic punch and kick. But it isn't really that super special like Jujutsu is. Or as complex as Jujutsu and the practices related to Jujutsu.
Either way if that's your response then I gotta say that was kinda a bit disappointing. I was expecting you to go and explain but nah. You just posted a video. Left it there and then went on to tell me to go read another series to stop being a "simp for jjk"
this was really disappointing of a post bruh.
 
Duedate8898 said:
Honestly don't know, I thought it might be because he had a solid calc for Blue but it looks like that got removed so I don't know what he's scaling to right now.
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I suspect someone is taking my sandbox stats and AP sections and just applying them to the profiles.

I have a sandbox with Teen Gojo’s Red at MCB because of feats against Toji who is MCB. Although I haven’t created a thread for Gojo yet.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
That's just around 60 days inside JJK. Dude was half dead during Shibuya incident so can't be helped. He should need time to adjust to his new arm & all ?
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"Its just 60 days inverse"
It doesnt matter much. You should mainly take irl time in value

As I said long time ago, Gege could have made some chapters in the Culling Game showing how Todo was developing his method to bring his CT back instead of just making one fight after another.
 
The culling games nonstop fits though, it’d be random to throw in Todo training even if for a couple chapters. There’s also the loss in Todo being revealed to have saved everyone and also aiding Yuta. Realistically Todo should’ve stayed in the story through culling games and have developed his ct through the bf or other means. He could’ve been utilized better in cg for it too.
 
They didn't tell us how WS was done either, and took their time (Gege)
Same goes for the fight between gojo and Sukuna. We never saw what they did in one month time skip. That instead got slowly explained over in the fight, instead of revealing it all in one go and spoiling the surprise early on.
As for Todo. His reveal was also early on referenced. He was meant to be kept hidden. But we see him help out with Yuta without us knowing who it was (well somebody did speculate correctly at that time based on the sfx and weird movement lol)
We also know that Todo is alive, and we've seen quite many in the play helping out in the Jujutsu school gang. Rin Amai. Akari Nitta. It's kinda expected for Todo to also appear and play a role. Just like how Miwa did by protecting Maki with her SD despite her one time binding vow preventing her from fighting with her sword.
I dont think Todo's appearance is "too unexpected". It was surprising sure but still makes sense. He did survive the fight against Mahito with one arm. And it's not impossible to make a possible prosthetic-ish arm in the modern era. Especially with the existence of Jujutsu.
 
This was SunDaGamer's response to the invalidation of his calc in that recent JJK speed thread


SunDaGamer's calc is the 6000 mach one for Hakari ""dodging"" lightning.
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Hakari dodges Kashimo's 'lightning' (electricity end)

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Now here's a debunk of that calc itself. It's just wrong.


The debunk is in the imgur description but I'll paste it here.

x = the distance between the lightning bolt and Hakari's head, this we can derive the time frame from the speed of the lightning and the distance.

a = the distance Hakari's head would have to move to avoid an attack that traverses distance [x].

we use [x] to calculate a time frame (call this [z]), and then perform [a] / [z] to get mach 1,000.

b = the distance Hakari moved in total in order for his shoulder to be where his head was previously.

y = the distance between the lightning bolt and Hakari's shoulder.

SunDaGamer, in his wrongness, wants to perform b / [z] - using the distance Hakari moved in total with the distance the lightning would reach Hakari's head - however this is evidently not true given the lightning reached Hakari's shoulder once Hakari moved , which wouldn't be accurate within time frame [z], therefore it's not an accurate portrayal of speed.

Credits goes to @Rosa for the debunk.
 
So just curious, what’s the AP difference between the high 8-B characters like the Disaster curses and the low 8-A characters like Toji, Hidden Inventory arc Geto and Gojo?
 
CiscoTheSoto said:
So just curious, what’s the AP difference between the high 8-B characters like the Disaster curses and the low 8-A characters like Toji, Hidden Inventory arc Geto and Gojo?
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Very small, the 8B comes from 49t from Mahito, Toji scales to Maki which scales to Nerfed 15f Sukuna which is 114t. So a 2x.

Edit: The scaling is really iffy since the 49 is from Mahito's ct, which didn't hurt anyone.
 
Arkenis said:
Very small, the 8B comes from 49t from Mahito, Toji scales to Maki which scales to Nerfed 15f Sukuna which is 114t. So a 2x.

Edit: The scaling is really iffy since the 49 is from Mahito's ct, which didn't hurt anyone.
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He said high 8-B, which would be the 8-B+ characters (58.4 tons)
 
Oh my mistake. Yeah I'm not sure why we scale everyone to that. Regardless its still a 2x difference or about
 
Also, I assumed Toji was 8-A off of stomping Dagon and that being extended to some sort of comparability to ISBDK Mahito

It didn't occur to me that Maki scales to the 8-A feat from chapter 213
 
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