- 14,116
- 5,625
In Dr Slump the continents are shapped differently and real life countries appear in it
It is.....factually different from DB's world
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
- Start date
It is.....factually different from DB's world
- 14,116
- 5,625
Yes, that is stated, on the toei timeline confirmed that it exists, Akira did some things in the anime too, but we take this to a separate timeline
Translations | Dragon Ball GT Dragon Book: Akira Toriyama's Introduction
Akira Toriyama introduces the 'Dragon Ball GT' DVD box set and draws the GT-only character Super Saiyan 4 Son Goku for the first timewww.kanzenshuu.com
This was removed as evidense alreeady, GT and Super can't happen in the same timeline
- 14,148
- 7,407
Nobody said it's in the same timeline, pay more attention to things.
- 9,095
- 5,548
If they are different worlds then the Arale canon should not scale to the Goku canon.
Since if Dr Slump's world is not the same as DB's, then Arale from the original manga and DBS shouldn't be the same.
Killerdrone123
He/Him- 2,749
- 2,808
I think arale earth being different was considered a gag
- 14,116
- 5,625
The links you showed say that
Nah, Gag toon force powers, they just are most of the time
- 14,148
- 7,407
The links i posted don't say that, but rather that it exists as timelines separated from the canon.
- 14,116
- 5,625
......it literally shows GT in the same timeline as Super
We had a thread on this
- 2,701
- 1,837
- 14,148
- 7,407
If Beerus had done his job properly, Goku Black would surely have been dead the first hour he set foot in another timeline (if it had been another serious God of Destruction, I'm sure he would have ended Black right there).
- 4,051
- 2,714
Sigh 
Since I am require to step in at this point I might as well
It’s because Beerus and/or Hakai has no indications nor implications to being at that level prior to episode 69 and even after episode 69 nothing else further substantiates not supports it.
The Hakai being 5-D is literally dependent on episode 69 and one single instance plus scaling to a Gag character from an inherently different series twitch characters that operate under different sets of rules and logic.
Scaling Beerus and/or Hakai to 5-D based on just episode 69 and no other prior nor further evidence plus scaling off gag characters is pretty much an outlier and not substantial enough
When it comes to DB and Dr. Slump, Dr Slump is only to be used as a secondary source of information when trying to upscale DB
Information established in DB is primary to DB and information established in Dr. Slump is primary to Dr. Slump
For Dr. Slump, it a series filled with blatant inaccuracies and contradictions and the characters themselves are aware of it and call it out numerous times and in the end all the contradictions simply work because the characters themselves accept that there series is a dumb manga / stupid cartoon and anything can happen at the authors / plot’s whims and that’s the nature of their reality and where a consistent story is blatantly said not to exist
For Dragon Ball, it is a far more consistent and logic based series that doesn’t intentionally break the physics of the world time and time again and has consistent narrative and character / world development.
Dr. Slump and DB do share the same planet and same world as made clear by a long list of evidence but how their worlds and system of logic operates in entirely different
As such being the case,
Dr Slump can use information from DB as a secondary source as long as it doesn’t contradict much stuff in their side
And vice verse applies to DB, it can use Dr. Slump established information but ONLY as a secondary source of information. Any information directly established in DB is primary information and will take precedence over information established in Dr. slump
An as far as the 4 Billion Km Earth is concerned, DB has its own primary established information that contradicts it with its own established size. So as such, it’s unusable for DB.
Since I am require to step in at this point I might as well
To answer this question,
It’s because Beerus and/or Hakai has no indications nor implications to being at that level prior to episode 69 and even after episode 69 nothing else further substantiates not supports it.
The Hakai being 5-D is literally dependent on episode 69 and one single instance plus scaling to a Gag character from an inherently different series twitch characters that operate under different sets of rules and logic.
Scaling Beerus and/or Hakai to 5-D based on just episode 69 and no other prior nor further evidence plus scaling off gag characters is pretty much an outlier and not substantial enough
Here’s the basic presidency for this:
When it comes to DB and Dr. Slump, Dr Slump is only to be used as a secondary source of information when trying to upscale DB
Information established in DB is primary to DB and information established in Dr. Slump is primary to Dr. Slump
For Dr. Slump, it a series filled with blatant inaccuracies and contradictions and the characters themselves are aware of it and call it out numerous times and in the end all the contradictions simply work because the characters themselves accept that there series is a dumb manga / stupid cartoon and anything can happen at the authors / plot’s whims and that’s the nature of their reality and where a consistent story is blatantly said not to exist
For Dragon Ball, it is a far more consistent and logic based series that doesn’t intentionally break the physics of the world time and time again and has consistent narrative and character / world development.
Dr. Slump and DB do share the same planet and same world as made clear by a long list of evidence but how their worlds and system of logic operates in entirely different
As such being the case,
Dr Slump can use information from DB as a secondary source as long as it doesn’t contradict much stuff in their side
And vice verse applies to DB, it can use Dr. Slump established information but ONLY as a secondary source of information. Any information directly established in DB is primary information and will take precedence over information established in Dr. slump
An as far as the 4 Billion Km Earth is concerned, DB has its own primary established information that contradicts it with its own established size. So as such, it’s unusable for DB.
- 3,300
- 4,078
It exists because he conflated the Anime and Manga continuity (and then compared it to the Films) rather than Anime and Films (compared to the Manga).
Accelerated_Evolution
He/Him- 7,860
- 8,998
Does Beerus ever did his job after the BOG events?
- 14,148
- 7,407
- 7,196
- 7,580
For something to be an outlier there needs to be evidence that contradicts a feat, not a feat being above what's been shown before, especially with such few instances of it, and especially when Beerus' Hakai is visibly different from the rest, we can't just assume it's the same.
There's no contradictory evidence, as far as I'm aware to suggest that Hakai, or the one that Beerus uses, isn't as powerful as it was in that episode.
- 3,397
- 2,450
Didn't Dr Mashito come back even after erased by Bills in a Dr Slump special? That'd show Hakai did not erase him definitely
- 14,148
- 7,407
Here in Brazil we speak Bills
- 14,148
- 7,407
There was a time when people told me Beerus here and i didn't know who this character was, i only knew Bills existed
- 13,469
- 14,631
same. when I first watched bog I knew him as Bills for the longest, then i started seeing ppl say Beerus and I was like "what the heck is a Beerus"
- 14,148
- 7,407
I also think the same thing, to this day i still don't understand why they call Bills in Beerus
- 7,415
- 10,859
That's because the Gods of Destruction are named after various alcoholic beverages, which makes their names puns (kind of like Saiyans being named after vegetables):
Beerus=Beer
Champa=Champagne
Iwan=an anagram for Wine
Heles=Helles, a German beer
Mosco=Moscow Mule
Quitela=an anagram for Tequila
Arak=Arak, a drink from the Eastern Mediterranean
Liquiir=Liquor
Sidra=Sidra is the Spanish word for Cider
Rumsshi=Rum
Belmod=his English dub name is Vermoud, which derives from the beverage Vermouth
And finally Giin=Gin.
If you're interested in learning more about the relationship between Beerus and Bills, the Kanzenshuu website has a detailed article explaining why he's referred to as Bills and Beerus dependent on where it's spoken in.
Accelerated_Evolution
He/Him- 7,860
- 8,998
It is above what has been showed even after the episode, not only before it
Same
- 14,148
- 7,407
It looks like the Dragon Ball manga is going on hiatus, this chapter is the last chapter with Akira's script, from what i saw, it looks like there's going to be some sort of canon split.
- 3,300
- 4,078
Gohan winning is thematically and narratively perfect given the fact Toriyama died this month. Just as Tori passed on his role to Toyo, so too does Goku lose the role of the Strongest to Gohan.
Peak cinema.
Scorsese could never.
Peak cinema.
Scorsese could never.
- 3,300
- 4,078
I dunno about any canon split. There WILL be a Hiatus (at least one month, but it was worded as indefinite, so potentially much longer), but I saw nothing about anything interfering with the canon.
- 5,836
- 7,511
Source?
SirAlex09
He/Him- 1,170
- 1,163
- 14,148
- 7,407
There is no more Akira script, now the script will be from the Dragon Ball company that created it, now we no longer have a solid roadmap, so maybe the Dragon Ball Super manga won't come back
For example, the manga, the script was worked on by Akira, but now they will have to take over the script and the manga, another person, then we will have another canon
- 3,931
- 3,789
Let's not jump the gun yet. It says Gohan seemingly won, so it's not a clear win.
That being said, W for the party who said Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan were comparable.
SirAlex09
He/Him- 1,170
- 1,163
It's seems you are still young boy. The whole point of agenda wars is to limit your IQ and reading comprehension to 1/100 of its actual value and jump the gun to make stupid interpretation
- 3,931
- 3,789
Similar threads
