BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Phsccarvalho]

I like the fact that ichigo getting stronger doesn't solve the problem alone (like against Aizen).

I would find it more interesting to have more Foreshadowing/development for the arrow than for him to simply gain resistances and win. Or that there is some kind of mega strategy for the battle but I doubt that will happen

 

[Crobatman44]

I will confess im more interested in the high/top tiers getting stuff instead of the god tiers.
But im also just more interested in more Bleach content in general and im fine with waiting for that.
Arc when are we entering the 7-C mach 2 God tiers and high 8-C Top tiers meta.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

High 6-A Bleach >>>>

 

[CodeCCLL]

It's quite simple garganta is infinitely larger compared to an infinite amount of pocket dimensions that are inside of it, which is directly stated, the human world, hueco mundo, soul society etc.

And there are statements of there being infinite pocket dimensions inside of the garganta, and garganta itself being infinite as well (infinitely larger than these infinite pocket dimensions), along with it being infinitely larger than 4-D constructs such as the Dangai, real world etc etc

it qualifies for being hyperspace, as 4-d constructs are infinitesmal inside of the garganta which automatically means it has an extra dimensional axis, also considering it's actually been called hyperspace

so yes, dangai is easily 5D

This isn't even 2A.

In the Q&A section, Don'tTalkDT said that verses with such expressions are definitely not suitable for Low-1C and could be 2-A in cases where the structure in question has the capacity to accommodate infinite number of space-time continuums with additional contexts.

 

[Excellence616]

I like the fact that ichigo getting stronger doesn't solve the problem alone (like against Aizen).

I would find it more interesting to have more Foreshadowing/development for the arrow than for him to simply gain resistances and win. Or that there is some kind of mega strategy for the battle but I doubt that will happen

The arrow itself affecting Yhwach should be removed from the anime because I don't see why his arrow would affect Soul King + Almighty + Sternritters absorbed Yhwach. He is literally the Soul King and the Still Silver should be neutralize immediately he absorbed the Soul King.

 

[Hellscream]

This isn't even 2A.

In the Q&A section, Don'tTalkDT said that verses with such expressions are definitely not suitable for Low-1C and could be 2-A in cases where the structure in question has the capacity to accommodate infinite number of space-time continuums with additional contexts.

did you even read the post?

"in cases where the structure in question has the capacity to accommodate infinite number of space-time continuums with additional contexts"

 

[Phsccarvalho]

it qualifies for being hyperspace, as 4-d constructs are infinitesmal inside of the garganta which automatically means it has an extra dimensional axis, also considering it's actually been called hyperspace

Unless it's a hyper-timeline relationship, no.

The most notable example I could tell you about was the demotion of space beyond Ben 10.

A space that contains infinite 2-A universes (that is, basically infinite infinite multiverses), and it has been demoted from 5-D.

 

[KingogKings777]

When the universe equalization, don't haxes like Genjutsu have an effect on those in another universe?

Yes.

 

[CodeCCLL]

did you even read the post?

"in cases where the structure in question has the capacity to accommodate infinite number of space-time continuums with additional contexts"

Nothing you say proves this. But since you'll probably give me an irrelevant answer again, let me point directly to DontTalkDT's comment.

Check out DontTalkDT's answers to KLOL's questions.

Can you get 2-A tier by having infinite size relative to multiple 4-D object ?

Yeah, **** no. Infinitely 4D constructs that are larger than a single infinite 4D structure are still 4D, not 5D. It is like saying that a 1-Dimensional line that is infinitely longer than a single infinite length of the 1D line is 2D. Completely wrong and hilarious. oh? It's a Wiki...

vsbattles.com

Can you get 2-A tier by having infinite size relative to multiple 4-D object ?

Yeah, **** no. Infinitely 4D constructs that are larger than a single infinite 4D structure are still 4D, not 5D. It is like saying that a 1-Dimensional line that is infinitely longer than a single infinite length of the 1D line is 2D. Completely wrong and hilarious. oh? It's a Wiki...

vsbattles.com

 

[Hellscream]

Nothing you say proves this. But since you'll probably give me an irrelevant answer again, let me point directly to DontTalkDT's comment.

Check out DontTalkDT's answers to KLOL's questions.

Can you get 2-A tier by having infinite size relative to multiple 4-D object ?

Yeah, **** no. Infinitely 4D constructs that are larger than a single infinite 4D structure are still 4D, not 5D. It is like saying that a 1-Dimensional line that is infinitely longer than a single infinite length of the 1D line is 2D. Completely wrong and hilarious. oh? It's a Wiki...

vsbattles.com

Can you get 2-A tier by having infinite size relative to multiple 4-D object ?

Yeah, **** no. Infinitely 4D constructs that are larger than a single infinite 4D structure are still 4D, not 5D. It is like saying that a 1-Dimensional line that is infinitely longer than a single infinite length of the 1D line is 2D. Completely wrong and hilarious. oh? It's a Wiki...

vsbattles.com

You should really read the comments that DontTalk posted before you start yapping

 

[Hellscream]

Im curious though @CodeCCLL how do you prove qualitative superiority?

 

[Hellscream]

Just looking to get your statements straight so, bleach cosmology doesn't even warrant 2-A?

2-A just being an infinite amount of space time continuums?

Did you read the part where the bleach cosmology has an infinite amount of these space time continuums?
And Garganta being infinitely larger than them?

Which is clear cut 5D, as it proves qualitative superiority, by having infinite 4D space being infinitesmal inside the garganta.

The posts you quoted were talking about a 4d construct, or a couple of 4D constructs, not an infinite amount of them.

being infinitely above infinite 4D space is CLEAR CUT tier 1 my friend.

 

[CodeCCLL]

You should really read the comments that DontTalk posted before you start yapping

If you're actually saying that even after reading DT's comments, I have nothing to say to you. I was there from beginning to end of this thread. If anyone doesn't read anything, it's you.

Im curious though @CodeCCLL how do you prove qualitative superiority?

To be honest, I don't have enough knowledge about qualitative superiority, and since I have no enough interest in any Tier 1 verses, I can't show you practical applications of it either. All I can say is, as DT said, being infinitely larger than Low-2-C/2-C structures alone is not enough even for 2-A. Despite this statement, you must prove that the structure in question has the capacity to accommodate an infinite number of space-time continuums, also now, after Ultima's tier system revisions, qualitative superiority will be evaluated as 1-A instead of Low-1C.

 

[Hellscream]

Just stop yapping at this point
and read my comment above

 

[Hellscream]

Isn't quantitive superiority the one that focus on a higher dimensionality ?

The easiest way to prove qualitative superiority is by being infinitely above a 2-A construct (Infinite 4D space)

But there are other ways

 

[CodeCCLL]

Just looking to get your statements straight so, bleach cosmology doesn't even warrant 2-A?

2-A just being an infinite amount of space time continuums?

Did you read the part where the bleach cosmology has an infinite amount of these space time continuums?
And Garganta being infinitely larger than them?

Which is clear cut 5D, as it proves qualitative superiority, by having infinite 4D space being infinitesmal inside the garganta.

The posts you quoted were talking about a 4d construct, or a couple of 4D constructs, not an infinite amount of them.

being infinitely above infinite 4D space is CLEAR CUT tier 1 my friend.

I guess it's enough to say that I expect you to do what no one has been able to do for years and prove that Garganta contains infinite space-time continuities and create the thread that will upgrade Yhwach and the Soul King to 2-A.

 

[Hellscream]

I guess it's enough to say that I expect you to do what no one has been able to do for years and prove that Garganta contains infinite space-time continuities and create the thread that will upgrade Yhwach and the Soul King to 2-A.

No because i don't really give a shit about ratings on VSBW,
I stopped caring after i got banned actually

Otherwise i would've made 20 threads for upgrades

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Did you read the part where the bleach cosmology has an infinite amount of these space time continuums?
And Garganta being infinitely larger than them?

Which is clear cut 5D

Q: Is a structure bigger than a 2-A structure Low 1-C by default?​

No, the default assumption is that this is not the case. "Bigger" could mean having more 2-A structures and, as explained in greater detail previously, having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinite many, won't scale above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually have the same size as a baseline 2-A structure.

Simply being infinitely larger than a 2-A or Low 2-C structure doesn't make you 5-D anymore.

This changed some time ago and this resulted in the downgrading of some verses. Like the space beyond of ben 10 (contains infinite infinite multiverses) and DMC (infinite demonic world containing a Low 2-C structure like a beamline)

You need to have a timeline relationship, for example the timeline contains 4-D structures.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

All im saying is that he's strong, but could definetly be a lot stronger

Brain rot

“Guuuuysss, my already very strong and haxxed character can’t beat some character from some random Japanese light novel!!!!!! I’m so sad!!!!”

 

[Hellscream]

I bet you struggle with benching an empty bar

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Since i can bench 500, my opinion is more valid than yours
And i disagree with you

Snip

 

[MeidoIzayoi]

that's nothing, I can bench the whole planet

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

that's nothing, I can bench the whole planet

I was lying earlier i can bench the entire cosmos

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I can bench a pebble

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I can bench a pebble

I can bench aerosol

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

How did like 12 hours pass and the topic of conversation not change

 

[Deceived3596]

This thread will be used as evidence for the existence of the effects of Bleach related CTE.

 

[Hellscream]

Since i can bench 500, my opinion is more valid than yours
And i disagree with you

 

[Adam1396]

Whoever shares yhwach's soul, when they die not just their power "skill, memories" return too. Roka proved reishi contains information. Yhwach should have absorption on informational level.

Ichibei mentions concept of reio. Does absorbing WSK automatically enables Yhwach to act as reio based on ability absorption or actively acting as soul king has something to do with the concept? Since it's clear it's not just about power and genetics

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Whoever shares yhwach's soul, when they die not just their power "skill, memories" return too. Roka proved reishi contains information. Yhwach should have absorption on informational level.

That's not reality governing information.

 

[Robo432343]

Adam is right

Yhwach has info absorption on a conceptual and historical level

 

[Excellence616]

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Might have to do with that Bleach musical thingy

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

the og cover is based tbh

 

[AppleLord]

Hell Arc. Monthly release. SJ will try a new manga concept, if successful, other manga will follow same release schedule. TYBW anime cour3 release date.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

This style of bleach cover is really good.

I saw a post from X that simulated it in other mangas.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

This style of bleach cover is really good.

I saw a post from X that simulated it in other mangas.

Fatherless

Now I wanna see a similar cover style for Mashle

 

[Phsccarvalho]

This style of bleach cover is really good.

I saw a post from X that simulated it in other mangas.

My favorite

Fatherless

Now I wanna see a similar cover style for Mashle

Yes, both of them do not have their biological father present.

 

[KingNanaya]

This style of bleach cover is really good.

I saw a post from X that simulated it in other mangas.

fatherless is insane

 

[AnimesFreak2]

"Fatherless"

LMAO