DEATH BATTLE! Fighting Animation Discussion Thread

[ThePrimalHunter]

Damn, if nothing else you can use Tony vaporizing Lex at the end and throwing him through that bridge

Yeah, but I'd rather calculate one of the more impressive feats if I can

As for Batman Vs Iron Man Tony's Tiering, I already have that planned

10-B Physically (Is a normal dude), 8-A via standard suits (Suits can damage each other, with each suit having this high of durability), far higher via self destruction (Turned Batman into a skeleton, with Batman surviving hits from the standard suits), Low 7-C via Godbuster (Scalable to the Hellbat), 7-C via The H.A.M.M.E.R (Could damage the Hellbat (Which is already almost baseline Town level))

 

[koopa3144]

I think Tony should get a "possibly" scaling to Bats without the Hellbat cause he did take a hit from him and survive him breaking his arm.

 

[MintyBoi1]

I think Tony should get a "possibly" scaling to Bats without the Hellbat cause he did take a hit from him and survive him breaking his arm.

Do we have a reference for base Batman’s AP in that fight? It may not scale to his dura

 

[koopa3144]

Do we have a reference for base Batman’s AP in that fight?

It's from him easily breaking Tony's arm iirc although he does break out of Tony's grasp while he's in his first armor before getting in the Hellbat iirc

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I think Tony should get a "possibly" scaling to Bats without the Hellbat cause he did take a hit from him and survive him breaking his arm.

I'm not to sure about that, because that Batman is 9-C for breaking Tony's arm, so scaling Tony's durability to Batman doesn't make sense, because Batmans whole feat is being stronger than Tony's Durability

although he does break out of Tony's grasp while he's in his first armor before getting in the Hellbat iirc

That would be more so LS. Also Batman used his gadgets to fight with Tony and needed to flee to the Hellbat armor to stand a chance, so assuming a base Batman is comparable to Iron Man in AP is a bit questionable

 

[MintyBoi1]

I say Tony 10-A then, he should pretty athletic

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I say Tony 10-A then, he should pretty athletic

I don't think he ever shows anything that would prove him to be athletic, there really isn't much support behind that

 

[MintyBoi1]

I don't think he ever shows anything that would prove him to be athletic, there really isn't much support behind that

I thought he was a bit more impressive in the animation, but you’re probably right upon rewatch

 

[Ednaxel2]

I finsihed Broly's profile

Broly (DEATH BATTLE!)

Broly is one of the DEATH BATTLE! Season 7 combatants. He appeared in the 139th episode of DEATH BATTLE!, Hulk VS Broly, where he fought against The Hulk from the Marvel Comics series. Tier: Unknown physically, 7-C in Wrathful State, High 5-A as a Super Saiyan, 4-A as a Legendary Super Saiyan...

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I'll add him to the verse page and the calculations

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I finsihed Broly's profile

Broly (DEATH BATTLE!)

Broly is one of the DEATH BATTLE! Season 7 combatants. He appeared in the 139th episode of DEATH BATTLE!, Hulk VS Broly, where he fought against The Hulk from the Marvel Comics series. Tier: Unknown physically, 7-C in Wrathful State, High 5-A as a Super Saiyan, 4-A as a Legendary Super Saiyan...

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I'll add him to the verse page and the calculations

You forgot to add the "Tier:" part. That's currently blank

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I posted Black's profile. I'll prob start on FR's profile soon.

I fixed up his profile slightly, as we put super forms that are from the same episodes into 1 key, so that way if a character is used in a future episode we can split the tiers by episodes without having to make major adjustments to the page

 

[Ednaxel2]

I fixed up his profile slightly, as we put super forms that are from the same episodes into 1 key, so that way if a character is used in a future episode we can split the tiers by episodes without having to make major adjustments to the page

That should also be done for Archie Sonic

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

That should also be done for Archie Sonic

You're right, it should be

I'll get to that now

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

It has been done

 

[Ednaxel2]

What's everyone's first death battle episode? Mine was Sonic VS Mario

 

[MintyBoi1]

Kirby vs Majin Buu

 

[Spinoirr]

What's everyone's first death battle episode? Mine was Sonic VS Mario

Gomba vs kuppa

 

[MintyBoi1]

Sheesh now I want a DB Kirby profile

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Mine was Spider-Man vs Batman

 

[MintyBoi1]

I feel like Lucy should have a more proper speed value than just Superhuman. Maybe you could calc how fast her Vectors move or the speed of the explosion she created

 

[Volt12121]

Mine was Spider-Man vs Batman

Same here

 

[Ednaxel2]

Made Frieza's profile

Frieza (DEATH BATTLE!)

Frieza is one of the DEATH BATTLE! season 10 combatants. Lord Frieza is one of the main antagonists of the Dragon Ball series. He appeared in the 182nd episode of Death Battle, Frieza VS Megatron, where he fought against Megatron from the Transformers series. Tier: 8-A in First Form, 5-B in...

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[Flowerguy2]

I finsihed Broly's profile

Broly (DEATH BATTLE!)

Broly is one of the DEATH BATTLE! Season 7 combatants. He appeared in the 139th episode of DEATH BATTLE!, Hulk VS Broly, where he fought against The Hulk from the Marvel Comics series. Tier: Unknown physically, 7-C in Wrathful State, High 5-A as a Super Saiyan, 4-A as a Legendary Super Saiyan...

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I'll add him to the verse page and the calculations

I... uh... don't know where to put this but doesn't the profile feel... rushed (Atleast to me)? Broly's Abilities doesn't have any justifications to linked to the ability being shown and some of Broly's AP justifications felt short and has no supporting feat put into it so that's that. So may I get permission to tweak it up, Ednaxel? Hulk VS Broly is one of my favorite DB! Episodes and seeing this kinda... idk. But I'm not trying to say this as in the rude way and anything like that.
Also I wanna recommend you need to make some of the your future profiles in sandboxes before publishing them into pages other than just... rushing the profile ig?

Also I'm iffy on the whole Ki Manipulation's justifications on each Dragon Ball character's profiles since... it's directly copied from the original Dragon Ball's profiles, and we also haven't seen most of the justification... happened.

Can be used Defensively & Offensively,

Vegeta (Vegeta VS Shadow) wasn't seen to be able to do that, either was Frieza, Majin Buu, Goku Black, Broly and many others. The exception to this is Son Goku and Vegeta (Thor VS Vegeta).

to Strengthen his skin

None of the Dragon Ball characters aren't shown to do that as shown strengthen their skin in the fighting animation, only powering up their stats.

to Home In On Targets

Goku didn't even bother homing in his Ki Blasts against Superman (Which could have been useful before being unable to moved by Superman's Pressure Points ability), hell, Goku didn't even used his Ki Blasts in his first and second fight anymore after blasting that barrage of Ki Blasts.

This includes Vegeta, Goku Black, Beerus, Majin Buu and many others (The three just blasting a barrage of Ki Blasts at their targets and that's kinda it while Majin Buu... doesn't even blast Ki Blast at all)

The exceptions to this is Broly, Gogeta and Vegito.

So overall, I think we have to changed some of the Ki Manipulation on each DB! Dragon Ball profiles.

Made Frieza's profile

Frieza (DEATH BATTLE!)

Frieza is one of the DEATH BATTLE! season 10 combatants. Lord Frieza is one of the main antagonists of the Dragon Ball series. He appeared in the 182nd episode of Death Battle, Frieza VS Megatron, where he fought against Megatron from the Transformers series. Tier: 8-A in First Form, 5-B in...

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I was about to make his profile first you goddamn fast bastard graaaaahhhhhh/jk

 

[MintyBoi1]

Making Tails a profile. You guys think he should be genius or extraordinary genius, having invented multiple advanced weapons and outsmarting Luigi multiple times

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I'm going to add the LS calc Diamond_Drone made for Homelander & Omni-Man to the profiles, as I don't think anyone contests them.

I'll just put "Class 10, Possibly Class 25"

 

[Flowerguy2]

Making Tails a profile. You guys think he should be genius or extraordinary genius, having invented multiple advanced weapons and outsmarting Luigi multiple times

Maybe just "Genius generally (Implied to have invented his multiple advanced weapons), Gifted in combat (Outsmarted Luigi on several occasions)" IMO

 

[MintyBoi1]

Posting the sandbox just in case, though there shouldn’t be anything too off

 

[Ednaxel2]

I... uh... don't know where to put this but doesn't the profile feel... rushed (Atleast to me)? Broly's Abilities doesn't have any justifications to linked to the ability being shown and some of Broly's AP justifications felt short and has no supporting feat put into it so that's that. So may I get permission to tweak it up, Ednaxel? Hulk VS Broly is one of my favorite DB! Episodes and seeing this kinda... idk. But I'm not trying to say this as in the rude way and anything like that.
Also I wanna recommend you need to make some of the your future profiles in sandboxes before publishing them into pages other than just... rushing the profile ig?

All of the AP justifications are all based on calculations, if you want to add onto them then that's perfectly fine. I will start making sandboxes too before publishing

Also I'm iffy on the whole Ki Manipulation's justifications on each Dragon Ball character's profiles since... it's directly copied from the original Dragon Ball's profiles, and we also haven't seen most of the justification... happened.

Vegeta (Vegeta VS Shadow) wasn't seen to be able to do that, either was Frieza, Majin Buu, Goku Black, Broly and many others. The exception to this is Son Goku and Vegeta (Thor VS Vegeta).

None of the Dragon Ball characters aren't shown to do that as shown strengthen their skin in the fighting animation, only powering up their stats.

Goku didn't even bother homing in his Ki Blasts against Superman (Which could have been useful before being unable to moved by Superman's Pressure Points ability), hell, Goku didn't even used his Ki Blasts in his first and second fight anymore after blasting that barrage of Ki Blasts.

This includes Vegeta, Goku Black, Beerus, Majin Buu and many others (The three just blasting a barrage of Ki Blasts at their targets and that's kinda it while Majin Buu... doesn't even blast Ki Blast at all)

The exceptions to this is Broly, Gogeta and Vegito.

So overall, I think we have to changed some of the Ki Manipulation on each DB! Dragon Ball profiles.

I was about to make his profile first you goddamn fast bastard graaaaahhhhhh/jk

I will remove some abilities for the characters on Ki Manipulation, only keeping ones they've shown

 

[Ednaxel2]

Broly has shown to home in on Hulk, so I'll keep that

 

[Flowerguy2]

All of the AP justifications are all based on calculations, if you want to add onto them then that's perfectly fine. I will start making sandboxes too before publishing

Thanks, I tell you when I'm done editing the profile

 

[Ednaxel2]

Thanks, I tell you when I'm done editing the profile

Just finish changing the Ki Manipulation on the profiles

 

[MintyBoi1]

You should add Avatar Creation

 

[Ednaxel2]

The values will change, this shouldn't change the descriptions just probably his tiers

 

[Ednaxel2]

You should add Avatar Creation

Why and for who?

 

[MintyBoi1]

Goku since he summons a Ki Avatar

 

[Ednaxel2]

Goku since he summons a Ki Avatar

Alright then

 

[Flowerguy2]

No because it doesn't fit the standard:

Avatar Creation is the ability to manifest another entity in the place of one's true body, using it as an avatar. This ability may allow the users to interact with the world in a way their true forms, which may be too abstract to normally physically interact. One could also use the ability to manifest a body for another, more powerful entity.

 

[Ednaxel2]

No because it doesn't fit the standard:

Removed

 

[Ednaxel2]

lmk when you're done with Broly's profile, I need to change the calculations a bit

 

[MintyBoi1]

Tails is up, portrait too.