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First of all, let's prove the comics are canon for the scale
Infinite dimensional Hilbert Space & Type 3 Tegmark multiverse
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I'm quite clueless that this has any relevance to your infinite-dimensional argument on this topic.The Multiverse is a Collective Unconscious, and is maintained by the perception of entities that reside within it, the perception of entities within a universe would determine how it would fundamentally work, each universe already has different laws of Science/Magic to it
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A part of the universe is the 50th Dead World
Using Jake's statement of it being a state of mind and beyond desire which according to the enchiridion, all desires are in the Unconscious
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No idea what this is supposed to mean.And we know that the multiverse is the collective unconscious of a dreamer from beyond
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Since when was this stated?As seen with each dreamer having a multiverse that resides within their mind
In which they transcend
Again, I do not see any relevance towards infinite dimensions."The entire Multiverse dissolves into an immense, mandalic, hypnotic spiral" The Enchiridion can affect the entire Multiverse
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I'm dubious about this since dreams without context don't guarantee reality-fiction transcendence. Not all dreams can be fiction as some of them can be real; no direct statement about Sleeping Being seeing the universe as fiction, especially since it mentioned "a nearby dimension".Infinite dreamers' hierarchy (r>f)
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Does not express infinite dimensions.I'm elaborating with these two scans
Everything is just smaller version of everything big
Since when was it stated the 50th Dread World is a higher dimension? The scans you provided do not prove that; even if it was a higher dimension, simply "stacking infinitely" would not qualify for infinite dimensions.Scan 2
(As we can see here, The universe (can go to the point of even being the entire multiverse, but let's take what's showcased) is inside a subatomic particle of an even bigger universe, that is itself, and it continues in an infinite sequence, and due to the 50th Dead World being a higher dimension in the universe, it would transcend the spatiality of the below dead worlds, which would contain said subatomic particles and 50th dead world, thus, due to this infinite sequence, it would jump to high hyperversal)
The comets are able to affect dreamers who have r>f to the multiverse
I suppose those are supporting details to your infinite-dimensional AP argument; I see no need to explain more on this if any of it isn't even infinite-dimensional.
After revisions, R>F will be 1-A but currently, it is only Low 1-C.In conclusion, GOLB, ice king's crown, the enchiridion, grob gob glob grod (Scales to Orgalorg) and Orgalorg (Feeds on comet) should have a "possibly high 1-B or high 1-B tier" or even a "low 1-A" or "possibly low 1-A" (being able to affect dreamers who have r>f to the multiverse) added
The multiverse didn't expand into the Hilbert Space, so it wouldn't be extradimensional nor have any higher infinities.The scan about hilbert space is probably atleast low 1-C since it implies that there are higher infinities included in the multiverse
???? It's quite literally describing the multiverse and branching of timelines and that the multiverse has infinities different in size from other infinities.The multiverse didn't expand into the Hilbert Space, so it wouldn't be extradimensional nor have any higher infinities.
And that isn't "higher infinities" in the context of higher-dimensions.???? It's quite literally describing the multiverse and branching of timelines and that the multiverse has infinities different in size from other infinities.
It doesn't need to be. It's higher infinities that exist as a physical structure in the multiverse which by sheer quantity makes it 5-D.And that isn't "higher infinities" in the context of higher-dimensions.
Is this... a part of Ultima's new tiering system? I would be clueless about that then, but for now, it's not yet applied.It doesn't need to be. It's higher infinities that exist as a physical structure in the multiverse which by sheer quantity makes it 5-D.
Nope. It's always been a thing. It's like how an uncountably infinite amount of ketchup packets would be equivalent to 4-D even if the objects are 3-D.Is this... a part of Ultima's new tiering system? I would be clueless about that then, but for now, it's not yet applied.
No, it's based on qualitative superiority rather than quantitative.Nope. It's always been a thing. It's like how an uncountably infinite amount of ketchup packets would be equivalent to 4-D even if the objects are 3-D.
I just don't think you understand how the standards work for cases like this.No, it's based on qualitative superiority rather than quantitative.
I just don't think you understand how the standards work for cases like this.
No, the default assumption is that this is not the case. "Bigger" could mean having more 2-A structures and, as explained in greater detail previously, having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinite many, won't scale above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually have the same size as a baseline 2-A structure. It is, however, possible to at least achieve above the baseline 2-A power by upscaling from other characters who've performed 2-A feats or of the feats themselves, rather than by affecting 2-A structures containing other 2-A structures. However, if "bigger" is indicated to mean a size difference that makes the structure qualitatively superior to a 2-A structure the structure qualifies for Low 1-C unless the fiction specifies otherwise.
Agree to disagree.Tiering System FAQ
A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...vsbattles.fandom.com
The evidence shown does not state or insinuate anything about uncountable infinities.
This isn't even the argument I had.Yeah, Hilbert space is generally rated as infinite-dimensional but it can be both countable and uncountable, or even finite based on its orthonormal basis to the norm, which even isn't enough to guarantee it is uncountable. Too iffy by itself for it to be extra-dimensional.
"an infinite number of branches expanding into infinite space on an infinite number of trees..."
"How big are the roots?"
hmm? eh... the roots are also infinite.
But if the tree and roots are both infinite wouldn't that mean they're the same size?
This is what suggests uncountable infinity. There are varying degrees of infinity here.er... uh... not necessarily.
That's not uncountably infinite; all it does is imply the tree is infinite. If the tree it's infinite then its size, including all its branches and roots has to be infinite as well.
But if the tree and roots are both infinite wouldn't that mean they're the same size?
er... uh... not necessarily.
There are differences between sizes and levels. Infinity isn't a number, it's a concept of cardinality. Of course, quantities would vary.It's clearly saying there is a distinction in size between these infinities.
Why?I disagree Fra,Comics are completely non canon
Read the OPIs there any information about Comics being Canon? Because as far as I remember, Adam Muto had an explanation that comics are not Canon.
I can't access the scan provided.Read the OP
The only reason the MCU is Low 1-C is because Earth-199999 itself is already 2-A not to mention all the hectic statements of a single course of action that can generate infinite timelines, at every infinitesimal of time. The evidence that would back it up to support the Adventure Time cosmology works identically is the recurring universe, which hasn't been specified to be separate space-times AFAIK, and even if it is it would still be 5-D at best.The most I see is Low 1-C if you take the branches as an uncountable infinite number if versions like with the MCU or Spawn.
Hunson beats GOLB with a single in ComicsWhy?
With this its a similar situation. Infinite branches that themselves are infinite in size and spawn infinite branches that spawn more.The only reason the MCU is Low 1-C is because Earth-199999 itself is already 2-A not to mention all the hectic statements of a single course of action that can generate infinite timelines, at every infinitesimal of time.
that doesn't stop it from being non canonHunson beats GOLB with a single in Comics
Wouldn’t it require for each recursion to be Low 2-C?Though like I said the recursive universe stuff could also imply that a normal universe is 4D+1, which would make it 5D+1 anyways.
At the moment, we consider Hunson and The Lich to be equal to each other on the Wiki. Lich expresses that he has dedicated his own life to Golb. And then he easily lost to Golb. In the comics, Hunson easily defeats Golb and even separates Betty and Golb. As we saw in Fionna and Cake, the sequel series of Adventure Time, Golb and Betty are still inseparable. So yes, the comic book is literally Non-Canon.that doesn't stop it from being non canon
Nah, if its an infinite series of 3-A spaces that go down forever it would an uncountable infinity of 3-D spaces, which would make the area four dimensional.Wouldn’t it require for each recursion to be Low 2-C?
In November of 2015, on an Ask.fm forum, showrunner Adam Muto asserted that: "[The comics] aren't consistent with the show's continuity since there's very little coordination between production and Boom. ... With the exception of things like Natasha [Allegri, character designer, storyboard revisionist, and designer of the gender-swapped character]'s Fionna and Cake miniseries and the [2015] SpOooktacular special [a prequel to the "Stakes" miniseries] by Hanna [K. Nyström, storyboard artist], we won't be referencing anything from the comics."First of all, let's prove the comics are canon
Yes Ik, Hunson is da goat!Hunson beats GOLB with a single in Comics
A wizard did it? Do we know when Hunson did that?At the moment, we consider Hunson and The Lich to be equal to each other on the Wiki. Lich expresses that he has dedicated his own life to Golb. And then he easily lost to Golb. In the comics, Hunson easily defeats Golb and even separates Betty and Golb. As we saw in Fionna and Cake, the sequel series of Adventure Time, Golb and Betty are still inseparable. So yes, the comic book is literally Non-Canon.
In a comic book published after Come Along With Me, Hunson separated Golb and Betty with just his breath. Then he knocked Golb down by punching him. In Fionna and Cake, Betty and Golb still appeared merged.A wizard did it? Do we know when Hunson did that?
What if the events in this comic happen after Fionna and Cake chronologically?In a comic book published after Come Along With Me, Hunson separated Golb and Betty with just his breath. Then he knocked Golb down by punching him. In Fionna and Cake, Betty and Golb still appeared merged.
That can't be possible because in the comics Finn is only 17 years old, in Fionna and Cake Finn is about 28 years old.What if the events in this comic happen after Fionna and Cake chronologically?