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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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@Arc7Kuroi
unohana clearly didn't use bankai during that battle. So she should scale higher with bankai multipliers.
Comparable characters can wound each other lol. It's not like zaraki was unscathed and it was stated their power were comparable.
Who scales higher. No eyepatch zaraki or shikai eyepatched zaraki?
with new squad zero feats this should not be outlier anymore.
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You don't need to be a fat kid, you just need to be me
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@Arc7Kuroi can you check reply no 40952
comparable characters can wound each other lol, zaraki was not unscathed.
she didn't use bankai against kid zaraki.
with new squad zero feats, gremmy's feat should not be an outlier anymore.
And bankai yamamoto is stronger than both Gremmy, royd (70% of yhwach's power)
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he lost when he did that
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So there is a big difference between squad 0 and gremmy but frankly
If even 2 gremmys can create a 5-C level meteor, then maybe we can do something by confirming that the other clones are here, unless there is an insane jump in statistics, I don't know. In any case, this is quite boring
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Agreed
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He was suppressing his power throughout the fight
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why should that include bankai? while there's not a single sign indicating she used bankai in whole fight. or even had it.
Unohana was shown to be using base form while that statement came out. She was already abnormally strong even among captain tiers and most skilled swordmaster. She would barely need bankai in fights.
reasonable and he lost to base unohana because of this.
zaraki's wound doesn't say so
Arcker123
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Because her strength is irrelevant to whether or not she used Bankai in a given fight. Zaraki can be stronger than Bankai Unohana without Unohana using her Bankai due to her statement of him being > her strength.
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what I was saying , characters a little above or below gremmy are in reasonable tier. Even royd.
Gremmy is weaker than bankai yamamoto and we have seen thermal erruption destroying dimensions in a canon bleach movie. Unsealed SZ member would absolutely step on yamamoto.
i'm sure multiplier for his clone was stated. 7 clone is 7 times stronger than base gremmy.
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there's no reason to just assume she included her bankai in that statement when she didn't even use it in whole fight.
bankai zaraki can be stronger than bankai unohana that's more like it.
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She literally stated she was too weak for kid zaraki, which obviously includes her bankai as that's part of her strength.
And stated that she taught herself how to heal so she'd be able to give kenpachi a better fight the next time they fought.
After that fight, where kenpachi stomped her as soon as he unlocked his real potential he gained his shikai
so where are you getting that scaling from?
And stated that she taught herself how to heal so she'd be able to give kenpachi a better fight the next time they fought.
After that fight, where kenpachi stomped her as soon as he unlocked his real potential he gained his shikai
so where are you getting that scaling from?
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No. I'm genuinely asking if his shikai multiplier is greater than eyepatch removal.Also are you basing kid Zaraki ~ Shikai eyepatch Zaraki based around the fact that when he cuts the meteor they show kid Zaraki’s face
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Rn his eyepatch is an unquantifiable amp/restriction. While his Shikai is a quantifiable amp of like 8x. So his Shikai multiplier is quantifiably greater, but that’s because we don’t have a quantification for his TYBW eyepatch.
Arcker123
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If her Bankai was stronger than Kenny, she wouldn't have said she was too weak for him, she wouldv'e just went Bankai
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It’s almost like the entire point of training Zaraki in Muken was for him to remove his mental inhibitors and regain his original strength he had as a kid. And almost like when he did that he defeated Bankai Unohana. Simple logic telling us then that kid Zaraki is superior to Bankai Unohana. It doesn’t really get more clear cut.
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She said even she was weaker than him like others even though she could compete against zaraki.
Stomped worn out unohana who had to heal very lethal injuries of zaraki over hundreds, thousands times. It's not a stomp lol
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if her bankai is what makes her comparable to him, then why didn't she use it She was clearly competing but also getting pushed.
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You are also ignoring that she didn't use bankai in previous battle even though she got a permanent scar. So there's no reason to assume the statement includes her bankai.
Using training fight to scale no eyepatch base zaraki above bankai unohana is just not ok. He defeated worn out unohana.
noninho
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Heya
Calling out anyone interested to see if this is a stomp or not
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Calling out anyone interested to see if this is a stomp or not
let me try -> Former Shinigami x God-yet-to-be [0-0-0]
sooooooooooo i'd like to see this. we've seen GOW3 x last key is stompish, but what about Third Hogyoku Fusion Sosuke Aizen vs Demigod Kratos ? speed is equalized, fight is in... idk hueco mundo? Kratos has, for now GOWA equipment and magic, only
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You can make a crt about it if you’re so inclined, get it rejected there, cuz I don’t feel like entertaining Raven level Unohana mental gymnastics (sorry Raven but it’s true).
Arcker123
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She wasn't competing with base Kenny at all. She got a hole in her chest.
Her Bankai isn't comparable to Kid Zaraki, her strength is inferior to his. That's the point.
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This whole bankai thing is assumption. The shown fight didn't have her bankai, when the fight ended zaraki didn't have any kind of injury that her bankai would cause.
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I wonder how big it would be if it formed 8 gremmy meteors
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Not even a unohana fan. Just noticed this part of scaling is weird.
You can make a crt about it if you’re so inclined, get it rejected there, cuz I don’t feel like entertaining Raven level Unohana mental gymnastics (sorry Raven but it’s true).
Arcker123
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Her Bankai heals people so of course he doesn't have wounds, and that doesn't defeat his claim that it's unkowable whether or not she used Bankai, and thus isn't a defeater for her stating she is inferior to Zaraki.
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Nah, she’s weaker, and she states it herself.
Kid Zaraki ≈ No eyepatch Zaraki > Royd ≈ Shikai Yamamoto >~ Base Aizen > Unohana
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what was for previous eyepatch?
I understand point about unohana scaling.
Where is the wank about gremmy, yamamoto, SZ?
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Unquantifiable.
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so quantifiable only for cfyow zaraki?
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Unquantifiable the entire series by our multiplier standards
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Best case for TYBW is a keyword during the Gerard fight after he goes Shikai(Long shot and unlikely tbh).
That or Klub outside.
