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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Ask @UchihaSlayer96 and @Godernet
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lol no ping perms
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Adam1396 said:
Stomped worn out unohana who had to heal very lethal injuries of zaraki over hundreds, thousands times. It's not a stomp lol
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This is legit healing someone that many times from lethal wounds would take it's toll. She was willing to do whatever it took to get him back. Plus she could have been saying she was weaker than his base and like she said kid zaraki didn't give her time to cheap tricks which could include a bankai from his or her pov. She probably was surprised how a kid without shikai or bankai was superior to her is probably what she was referring to. We also don't even know if she has bankai back then. He's never seen it before that much is certain. Based on his reaction.

You can still be weaker than someone objectively, if I need bankai to beat someone who can't even do shikai or bankai that would also be considered "pathetic." Especially if he's young. Also if he could one shot her through her automatic healing bankai, he would have one shot her base as kid zaraki didn't hold back, back them
 
Raven, here's what happens

Zaraki shows up -> Unohana tries to block -> Kenny lol nopes that and gives her a scar -> Kenny admires Unohana's power and starts holding back.

At no point does Base Unohana do anything but get fodderized by full power kid Kenny.
 
It's true trying to one shot Bankai Unohana is >>> trying to one shot her base. You have to work through higher stats and her insta healing Bankai. She likely just meant she was weaker than him in the clashing which would extend to his Bankai if she knew he even had it or a theoretical if he did. You can argue who would win in Bankai based off how the fight without Bankai is going. Initially he didn't hold back on Unohana and he couldn't one shot her base and she was also smacking him around. Also we don't even know if he deactivated her Bankai it's entirely possible all she did was deactivate it to prevent further harm since she could tell he already surpassed her and felt he was ready. I mean what would happen if he got rid of all his shackles but was partially skeletal/melted? He would either look hideous or die from his wounds
 
Arcker123 said:
Raven, here's what happens

Zaraki shows up -> Unohana tries to block -> Kenny lol nopes that and gives her a scar -> Kenny admires Unohana's power and starts holding back.

At no point does Base Unohana do anything but get fodderized by full power kid Kenny.
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That's not a one shot. He couldn't even go completely through her body with his thrust like he did in modern fight
 
Here's what's actually happening.

The shackles are a set number of reiatsu restraint. Let's say it holds back 1000. Kid Zaraki is now at 200 with them. Since he's an adult he's physically superior so now he's 250 with restraints. (Numbers are made up to show a point don't take em serious)

Zaraki is now more mature physically but the restraints are still there. Restricted adult Zaraki > restricted kid Zaraki. And Unohana is simply referring to the strength he's holding back that would make him superior. So you can scale Unohana to shikai Kenpachi since she massively weakened herself by healing and healing which does take a toll on you this is factual. She was willing to sacrifice her life to get him back.

So you can say she only was wanting him to remove the shackles so he could reach his true potential and be even more dominant than she was. She allowed him to pierce him and deactivated her Bankai when she could sense he was no longer held back. I'm pretty sure we see her accept his blade before he connected so she's still above base zaraki đź’Ż
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Proof??? Sounds like headcanon

Yea but not by much. Her bankai ~ his shikai
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Read the Unohana fight lmao. She was suprised to the extent the kenoachi who stabbed her was holding back.

You could never justify this claim. Your only argument is literally "didn't get vaporized by a holding back child."
 
Arcker123 said:
Read the Unohana fight lmao. She was suprised to the extent the kenoachi who stabbed her was holding back.
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You made this up. He only held back later not during the initial. There is no evidence to support this
Arcker123 said:
You could never justify this claim. Your only argument is literally "didn't get vaporized by a holding back child."
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Because it's valid until you prove how piercing base Unohana is equal to killing her semi immortal Bankai. He didn't know who Unohana was dude. For him he was bloodlusted after killing a pile of bodies she was just another corpse to him till he realized she can fight
 
The information manipulation thread should be remade tbh, and the 4D almighty thread
And ofc soul crush layers

If yall need / want help with it, i can help out when im free
 
@Arcker123



It's highly implied he only held back towards the end after multiple clashes. The panel showing his dark expression at the end is only when he started to suppress himself

So you can say he's only slightly above base Unohana. So all healing she did exhausted her and she accepted his blade once his shackles were removed not really proof his old self was above Bankai she never used it which is evident by his expressions
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
@Arcker123



It's highly implied he only held back towards the end after multiple clashes. The panel showing his dark expression at the end is only when he started to suppress himself

So you can say he's only slightly above base Unohana. So all healing she did exhausted her and she accepted his blade once his shackles were removed not really proof his old self was above Bankai she never used it which is evident by his expressions
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He is said to be shackled as he stabbed her.

Unohana is not that guy.
 
"because of our battle." Which means shes talking about the result of the fight itself. Later in that clip is when you see him actually start to suppress himself. Which only happened after multiple exchanges when he realized she won't last for much longer since he was enjoying it.
 
Arcker123 said:
When does he say the line lmao.

You can't accuse me of being dishonest when you scale Unohana to shikai kenpachi when she lost to Base kenny.
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Did you watch the link???

Because healing exhausts a user especially if it's healing of wounds of dying targets and multiple times at that and she accepted his blade rather than him just stomping her
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Watching people try to wank Unohana and call Arcker dishonest is so funny and ironic
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Because if he watched the clip he would know she's not talking about shackles after being stabbed especially not before she was stabbed but rather later on when he saw her exhausted knowing she would no longer keep up forever
 
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