Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Arkenis]

My only regret is if Gege gonna kill Sukuna atleast he should have used Kashimo first against him and displayed all of Sukuna's other abilities.

• We didn't see black box
• Didn't see his Weapons

If he fought Kashimo we should have probably seen those.

Gege should have used Meguna vs Gojo later honestly. I don't have any problem with Sukuna losing to anyone. I just find it stupid that he didn't had time to showcase any of his other abilities and had to only rely on Ten shadows.

I get that but Gege's pretty consistent in teasing stuff but not revealing it. We got teased Hanami, Ryu, Uro, Yuki, and Yuta's domain but never got them. I'm not surprised if he teased the black box but keeps it a mystery. And the weapons seem to be representations of the abilities he's shown already, I believe one of them can shoot out lightning so that could be something we get as a reveal but never shown too.

 

[Excellence616]

Gege forgot Yuji

 

[YukaSama4]

Yuji is definitely the one who will finish Sukuna, Gojo isn't dying but he will either get sealed again or get severely damaged, I can see Kenjaku with the help of Tengen was preparing a barrier that can contain Gojo during the fight.

Spoiler

Theories

Next chapter starts with Sukuna smiling and asking Gojo what is Jujutsu?
Gojo feels something wrong, he asks Sukuna "are trying to gain time?"
Sukuna says "open" and a fire arrow appears with a long spear, Gojo looks confused and he tries to understand what the fire is and where did it come from, Watching the fight from far away, Uro looks scared and say "is he going to use it? At this time, that sorcerer (Gojo) might just..
Kashimo looks annoyed and ask whats the meaning of this?
Sukuna tells Gojo to be prepared for next and to be proud that he forced Sukuna into using this, as he shoots the flame arrow, Gojo doesnt feel any CE, he is still confused and just before the arrow touches him he says "this is not jujutsu" but the fire arrow blasts him, Gojo is on the ground and severly injured, Sukuna explains that when you apply a CT you run CE to your brain, the six eyes is an impressive ability that can see through CTs, so Sukuna decided to beat it using this, by saying "open" Sukuna isnt burning CE but hes burning a part of his soul, thats why Gojo's six eyes couldnt understand it, Shoko asks "but Gojo's infinite should stop anything" Kusakabe looks scared as he says "DA cant be used with CT, but since this isnt a CT, Sukuna was able to fuse it with amplification" and the chapter ends with Sukuna telling Gojo "youre now wondering if fire is the only thing I can use?"/SPOILER]

I think I can cook better than Sukuna fans themseleves

 

[YukaSama4]

And to make sure that Sukuna is digging himself into the fraudulent hole even deeper this week, he's burning Megumi's soul not his own.

 

[Duedate8898]

Yuji is definitely the one who will finish Sukuna, Gojo isn't dying but he will either get sealed again or get severely damaged, I can see Kenjaku with the help of Tengen was preparing a barrier that can contain Gojo during the fight.

Spoiler

Theories

Next chapter starts with Sukuna smiling and asking Gojo what is Jujutsu?
Gojo feels something wrong, he asks Sukuna "are trying to gain time?"
Sukuna says "open" and a fire arrow appears with a long spear, Gojo looks confused and he tries to understand what the fire is and where did it come from, Watching the fight from far away, Uro looks scared and say "is he going to use it? At this time, that sorcerer (Gojo) might just..
Kashimo looks annoyed and ask whats the meaning of this?
Sukuna tells Gojo to be prepared for next and to be proud that he forced Sukuna into using this, as he shoots the flame arrow, Gojo doesnt feel any CE, he is still confused and just before the arrow touches him he says "this is not jujutsu" but the fire arrow blasts him, Gojo is on the ground and severly injured, Sukuna explains that when you apply a CT you run CE to your brain, the six eyes is an impressive ability that can see through CTs, so Sukuna decided to beat it using this, by saying "open" Sukuna isnt burning CE but hes burning a part of his soul, thats why Gojo's six eyes couldnt understand it, Shoko asks "but Gojo's infinite should stop anything" Kusakabe looks scared as he says "DA cant be used with CT, but since this isnt a CT, Sukuna was able to fuse it with amplification" and the chapter ends with Sukuna telling Gojo "youre now wondering if fire is the only thing I can use?"/SPOILER]

I think I can cook better than Sukuna fans themseleves

Did you come up with this yourself? Honestly, I really love it.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

They really better not **** us and have this fight end without Sukana using that fire arrow

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I get that but Gege's pretty consistent in teasing stuff but not revealing it. We got teased Hanami, Ryu, Uro, Yuki, and Yuta's domain but never got them. I'm not surprised if he teased the black box but keeps it a mystery. And the weapons seem to be representations of the abilities he's shown already, I believe one of them can shoot out lightning so that could be something we get as a reveal but never shown too.

I mean we have time to see Yutas domain don't lose hope . But Gojo is going all out and we have seen all kinds of stuffs he can do with limitless currently. And Sukuna was a prominent character from first chapter. What I am saying is we need his all arsenal explanation and things because of that. Though I would be happy if Gege atleast releases a databook if he kills next chapter. I don't mind as long as I get the information on how Open Technique works.

Beside Uro and Ryu are minor characters for plot. Yeah I agree Yuki one is wasted.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

They really better not **** us and have this fight end without Sukana using that fire arrow

That fire arrow seems like just a varient I guess. The theory I saw it has something to do with black box in the brain the next level of Sorcerery. Taking something as a input and executing it as output. Most probably that's why Sukuna mocks Jogo as let me use your speciality like taking fire as his input and executing it.

Well 2 more days we will see what will happen. Sukuna might just gets killed and Yuji might get the chance to use Sukuna abilities. There was a theory that Yuji might have access to all Sukuna abilities thanks to merged with his CE.

Though chapter 142 teased 4 harms Sukuna and Gojo with Toji outfit. So it might be Foreshadowing for future chapters. If it's Foreshadowing gege has best Foreshadowing in new gen shonen so far.

 

[Arkenis]

There was a theory that Yuji might have access to all Sukuna abilities thanks to merged with his CE.

Would just ignore how ct work if all you need is the person's ce to merge with yours.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Would just ignore how ct work if all you need is the person's ce to merge with yours.

Haha I wonder man because there was a statement from Gojo also that Yuji can use Sukuna techniques in the beginning of the series and later after Sukuna left Yuji body also states something like his body becoming same as Sukuna when he was cursed objects. May be or may not be. It's just theory though.

 

[YukaSama4]

Did you come up with this yourself? Honestly, I really love it.

Yeah

Haha I wonder man because there was a statement from Gojo also that Yuji can use Sukuna techniques in the beginning of the series and later after Sukuna left Yuji body also states something like his body becoming same as Sukuna when he was cursed objects. May be or may not be. It's just theory though.

Gojo said it will be engraved in Yuji's body or that Yuji's body will learn it, CTs are engraved on the brain it isn't just a matter of CE

 

[HollowVanity]

ngl Gojo should have a likely far higher on his speed profile, no way he caps out at subsonic+ (from a feat performed by itadori)

 

[Arkenis]

ngl Gojo should have a likely far higher on his speed profile, no way he caps out at subsonic+ (from a feat performed by itadori)

yeah we know. We got calcs they just havent been accepted for a higher rating.

 

[HollowVanity]

I'm just gonna make the crt before my dark impulses come out

 

[Arkenis]

I'm just gonna make the crt before my dark impulses come out

were the calcs accepted?

 

[HollowVanity]

were the calcs accepted?

What

 

[Arkenis]

What

if ur crt is gonna be for speed, then whatever calc u use would need to be accepted.

 

[HollowVanity]

if ur crt is gonna be for speed, then whatever calc u use would need to be accepted.

Its not that, I just think Gojo should have likely far higher on his profile because he's far superior to Itadori

 

[YukaSama4]

He won't ask for changing the tier, just a far higher rating

 

[HollowVanity]

Been made, pretty simple

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yeah

Gojo said it will be engraved in Yuji's body or that Yuji's body will learn it, CTs are engraved on the brain it isn't just a matter of CE

Yeah my bad. I guess this works

 

[YukaSama4]

Is the current fight taking place 2 months after Shibuya?

 

[SunDaGamer]

Is the current fight taking place 2 months after Shibuya?

The Shinjuku fight takes place on Christmas Eve, Shibuya was on Halloween

 

[YukaSama4]

So it's almost 2 months yeah, thank you.

On a side note, Since this was discussed not long ago im leaving the link here.

 

[SunDaGamer]

On Sukuna's resistance to Soul Manipulation, is it limited to preventing alterations to his soul or would we consider him to be able to resist attacks on the soul too like from the Split Soul Katana?

 

[Duedate8898]

Since Mahito's alterations to the soul is treated partially as form of mutilation, hence how he can just kill people he touches instead of changing them we'd assume he also resist attacks on the soul

 

[Arkenis]

On Sukuna's resistance to Soul Manipulation, is it limited to preventing alterations to his soul or would we consider him to be able to resist attacks on the soul too like from the Split Soul Katana?

I would say both. We know Mahito can take damage against his soul too so Sukuna shouldn't be different.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Btw I always wondered how Kashimo survived that blast which Hakari needed a binding vow to protect himself. I guess chapter 235 clarified that their own CE can reduce the affects.

 

[Arkenis]

Btw I always wondered how Kashimo survived that blast which Hakari needed a binding vow to protect himself. I guess chapter 235 clarified that their own CE can reduce the affects.

I doubt that’s why. The explosion was through a natural process rather than a sheer explosion of ce so there’s no reason for it to be reduced. Also just look at Kashimo, he doesn’t seem effected at all while Gojo was effected by his ce to a good degree and both were close to the explosion.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I doubt that’s why. The explosion was through a natural process rather than a sheer explosion of ce so there’s no reason for it to be reduced. Also just look at Kashimo, he doesn’t seem effected at all while Gojo was effected by his ce to a good degree and both were close to the explosion.

So any other explanations? Or Kashimo durability just that better?

 

[Arkenis]

So any other explanations? Or Kashimo durability just that better?

Yeah his durability is just that good.

 

[Giannysmag]

Yall should probably see this

 

[YukaSama4]

I sent the YouTube link about this yesterday, its basically the same as what @Shey said in the last discussion

 

[Arkenis]

Yall should probably see this

Idk how correct my math is on this, could be misinterpreting this

But his ce output dropped by less than 10% so he's at least 9% and using his fire arrow calc as a basis for his normal power, he's down by 91% making his physicals only 9% of the fire calc which puts him at 7.7997019e+14J or 186.41734942639KT making Yuji and Maki High 7-C.

 

[Duedate8898]

Who are these people?

 

[YukaSama4]

Who are these people?

Kaiyo is a YouTube channel, but he brought Max and had him explain the raws, Max is a Japanese guy who used to translate for Myamura and it seems he started to work at crunchyroll recently translating the new jjk episodes

 

[Maitreya12]

Yall should probably see this

The first time he mentions his CE output being reduced was in reference to him just using his CT against Yuji. Meaning the statement of his cursed energy output being reduced was in reference to his cursed technique’s output, which he later specifically clarified in his second statement. There is no mention of “one being reduced more than the other”, that doesn’t make sense.

The argument here starts on a presupposed premise.

 

[YukaSama4]

CE output getting lower was indeed determined/noticed by how his CT didnt do much of a damage, still that doesn't change how it was a general statement that includes everything linked to CE output, which works completely fine with how CTs work, but I think the main thing in that tweet was to argue that Sukuna's movements were nerfed as well, just not as bad as his other moves, which seems to be stated in the raws

 

[Duedate8898]

We should probably just run the raws by our own translators to be sure.

 

[YukaSama4]

On the movement part yes, but the discussion about CE output and CT output is unrelated to the translations, it's just how we should interpret the 2 statements:

1) The first statement was a general one meaning Sukuna's CE was fluctuating, the 2nd statement says the rejection becomes stronger specifically when he uses a CT, so his output is low anyways but it gets more lower when he activates a CT.

2) The first statement about CE output means CT output because in the 2nd statement Sukuna only mentioned CT output, so Sukuna's durability is still as high as he is at 15F, and his speed is the same as well.