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The joke is that they both like martial arts. For the 5th strongest Low 2-C non-smurf.
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Goofy reasoning.Veldora range is only universal+, since Mori has Immortality (Type 9) which he reside in Nirvana the plane of existence outside universe+ sure he is outrange him. And also Mori can't deal with Veldora Immortality (Type 9), because he reside in rimuru Imaginary Space.
That's why idea of incon come from
Knowing light novel power-creep he probably does have something akin to that.doesn't veldora have access to that weird space-time transcending hax that allows him to reach the true body of his enemies allowing it to reach even those with type 9 in the verse
Well, first, he stands there, and passively erases the existence of anything hundreds of kilometers away, and on a universal scale if he’s really trying.I have no knowledge on Otaku Dragon and can't look at his profile because the wiki crashes on my phone.
So, a summary on his powers, starting moves and shit would be nice before I say what Mori can do.
Two questions in response to this:Well, first, he stands there, and passively erases the existence of anything hundreds of kilometers away, and on a universal scale if he’s really trying.
Yes, and yes.Two questions in response to this:
1. Is this hax 4-D?
2. Are his resistances 4-D?
While not currently reflected on the profile PROPERLY, recent accepted revisions have made all of Mori's hax and abilities 4-Dimensional.
Unique Skills are inscribed in the soul, which means you would need soul manipulation/info-level power mimicry to affect, and Ultimate Skills are completely unaffected by any skill that isn’t another Ultimate Skill, which includes things such as Rimuru’s Gluttony (which can obtain Unique Skills), or Hinata’s Usuper, which can do the same. Essentially,Hm.
Another question, Veldora's resistance to Power Mimicry on his profile seems rather... unconventional? Is there some higher mechanics to it that isn't reflected on the profile, or does one simply need to be able to interact with Souls to bypass it?
Mori's Power Mimicry coincidentally does function on a spiritual/Information level and is superior to Satan's Power Mimicry which can also copy things on such a level.Unique Skills are inscribed in the soul, which means you would need soul manipulation/info-level power mimicry to affect, and Ultimate Skills are completely unaffected by any skill that isn’t another Ultimate Skill, which includes things such as Rimuru’s Gluttony (which can obtain Unique Skills), or Hinata’s Usuper, which can do the same. Essentially,
Ultimate Skills (Veldora) > Gluttony/Usurper (Power Mimicry) > Unique Skills > Power Mimicry.
Nope, Veldora’s level is above that. Gluttony operates on a spiritual informational level, but can’t affect an Ultimate Skill. He would first have to analyze it, too, which he resists.Mori's Power Mimicry coincidentally does function on a spiritual/Information level and is superior to Satan's Power Mimicry which can also copy things on such a level.
So would Mori copying Veldora's abilities be an option?
I mean they kind of sound like their on the same level? Veldora is resistant/above skills that can copy things on a Spiritual Information level, and so is Mori.Nope, Veldora’s level is above that. Gluttony operates on a spiritual informational level, but can’t affect an Ultimate Skill. He would first have to analyze it, too, which he resists.
Veldora isn’t looking to copy Mori’s powers, though.I mean they kind of sound like their on the same level? Veldora is resistant/above skills that can copy things on a Spiritual Information level, and so is Mori.
Okay my point is that Mori is trying to do that tho-Veldora isn’t looking to copy Mori’s powers, though.
You said it only works on a Universal scale if he actually tries to do that, meaning he doesn't start on that range, meaning Mori has leeway to do something before Veldora gets serious.And, like, this is assuming he even can before immediately getting erased from existence passively.
His mimicry is above spiritual/info resistances?Okay my point is that Mori is trying to do that tho-
Is he outside the universe, or something? Veldora’s base aura is hundreds of kilometers.You said it only works on a Universal scale if he actually tries to do that, meaning he doesn't start on that range, meaning Mori has leeway to do something before Veldora gets serious.
Every living creature in GoH has something called their Core Element, which contains their Information, Soul, Mind, and Body. Satan's (666: Satan) Power Mimicry works on the level of being able to mimic one's Core Element/steal one's Core Element, so does Mujin Park's who can also steal one's abilities through their Core Element, and Mori's Power Mimicry is better than both of these people.His mimicry is above spiritual/info resistances?
He is indeed outside of the universe.Is he outside the universe, or something? Veldora’s base aura is hundreds of kilometers.
He both has Law Manipulation and should resist Law Manipulation.In addition to the points taken by Milly, I want to point out that Veldora is invulnerable to any skill (including mimicry) for having an ultimate skill, to get around this invulnerability he would have to have good resistance to law manipulation
This has been accepted for LN, but as WN has the same system then I think it's valid
Ah, nice. He can copy Veldora’s abilities, then, if he can do anything about getting erased.Every living creature in GoH has something called their Core Element, which contains their Information, Soul, Mind, and Body. Satan's (666: Satan) Power Mimicry works on the level of being able to mimic one's Core Element/steal one's Core Element, so does Mujin Park's who can also steal one's abilities through their Core Element, and Mori's Power Mimicry is better than both of these people.
So, yes.
Veldora would instantly know that, considering the fact that he has info analysis, then bypasses info analysis resistance.He is indeed outside of the universe.
As does Veldora.He both has Law Manipulation and should resist Law Manipulation.
Any ability Mori copies he instantly resists.Ah, nice. He can copy Veldora’s abilities, then, if he can do anything about getting erased.
And his info analysis also has universal range, or...?Veldora would instantly know that, considering the fact that he has info analysis, then bypasses info analysis resistance.
I mean, Peak didn't say anything about Mori NEEDING Law Manipulation, just that he needs to resist it. So idk why Veldora also resisting it matters unless there's something I am missing.As does Veldora.
Indeed, the skill quite literally is all of creation, and that’s further superseded by his skill truth seeker.And his info analysis also has universal range, or...?
Does he just start outside the universe? No avatars or anything? Because I have trouble understanding. Not to mention Veldora has other passives. Mind, soul, madness, empathic, on a scale of 150,000 people.Any ability Mori copies he instantly resists.
That's... neat? Mori is OUTSIDE of regular space-time, though, so I don't know if this would function as intended.Indeed, the skill quite literally is all of creation, and that’s further superseded by his skill truth seeker.
He does start outside of the universe, yes. His avatars are things he uses to interact with the lower world outside of Nirvana (which is where he resides), which aren't Tier 2 and are 3-Dimensional unlike Mori's self in Nirvana, which is indeed Tier 2.Does he just start outside the universe? No avatars or anything? Because I have trouble understanding. Not to mention Veldora has other passives. Mind, soul, madness, empathic, on a scale of 150,000 people.
Does he have an avatar to fight with?He does start outside of the universe, yes. His avatars are things he uses to interact with the lower world outside of Nirvana (which is where he resides), which aren't Tier 2 and are 3-Dimensional unlike Mori's self in Nirvana, which is indeed Tier 2.
I am under the assumption we are assuming he's fighting as his True Form, which resides in Nirvana.Does he have an avatar to fight with?
So he just starts… not even in the same universe as the opponent? Because reading the scan, there seems to be an avatar fighting someone.I am under the assumption we are assuming he's fighting as his True Form, which resides in Nirvana.
This is before Mori had ascended to his form in Nirvana. At that specific moment, that IS his True Form.
Ah. Then, not sure how this goes. They literally aren’t anywhere near each other, so.This is before Mori had ascended to his form in Nirvana. At that specific moment, that IS his True Form.
Incon, ig?Ah. Then, not sure how this goes. They literally aren’t anywhere near each other, so.
Well, technically, Mori should be able to interact with Veldora from within Nirvana via his range, but, that's not even remotely on the profile as of yet, so I'm not going to argue that.So... Nothing change
Shouldn't she be on the list instead of Veldora, then? Or is she not Low 2-C?How weird. If this was Veldora’s sister, she has the exact ability counter this.
She isn’t, she’s 3-A.Shouldn't she be on the list instead of Veldora, then? Or is she not Low 2-C?
That would be considered as outside interference from another character, which I think isn't allowed in VS Threads, but then again I could be heavily tripping on that.She isn’t, she’s 3-A.
The only hypothetical way I see this ending is Rimuru giving Veldora the skill, which he can do, and has done before, since they’re essentially symbiotic.
"Outside Influence: None. No characters of either verse" You are rightThat would be considered as outside interference from another character, which I think isn't allowed in VS Threads, but then again I could be heavily tripping on that.