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Minor justification cut for King, and Kaifu revision.

Eseseso said:
And IMO the fact that Killer, who took 2 hits from Big Mom and was fine, noped out of the way of the Kaifu shows that they're at least individually comparable to some extent to Kaido's normal AP.
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For Killer the reason it wouldn't hurt him is due to him blocking with his blades.

Compared to Luffy who blocked with a Ryuo barrier & Koka.
Eseseso said:
I meant to focus more on the fact that just one Kaifu still caused him pain without cutting him.
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Although saying "ugh" doesn't necessarily mean it hurt him just that it caused him some amount of struggle to overpower it I guess.
 
Eseseso said:
He goes "ugh!", then in the panel after goes "Gah!" while pushing it away.

And there may or may not be a bit of blood in the panel where he goes "Gah!", but I'll have to check the OG scans.
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At first he said "Woah" in response to Kaido immediately doing the attack, and after hitting it away said "ugh." How do those imply damage?
 
Eminiteable said:
For Killer the reason it wouldn't hurt him is due to him blocking with his blades.
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What I meant was that one of the times Kaido spammed Kaifus, Killer had to dodge, implying that it was a threat to his A-6 tier durability.
Eminiteable said:
Although saying "ugh" doesn't necessarily mean it hurt him just that it caused him some amount of struggled to overpower it I guess.
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I checked, and Luffy did bleed slightly in the panel where he says "Gah!" and pushed that single Kaifu away.

Kachon123 said:
At first he said "Woah" in response to Kaido immediately doing the attack, and after hitting it away said "ugh." How do those imply damage?
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He said "Woah" in G5, this is before that.
 
Eseseso said:
What I meant was that one of the times Kaido spammed Kaifus, Killer had to dodge, implying that it was a threat to his A-6 tier durability.
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I disagree with using dodging as a justification for Kachon's reasons in a previous post.
Eseseso said:
I checked, and Luffy did bleed slightly in the panel where he says "Gah!" and pushed that single Kaifu away.
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Can't necessarily claim that's blood until we can confirm with the digital colored scans, it's not obvious from the panel.
 
Kachon123 said:
That's fan colored.
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True, but the drops of blood and the dark coloring on the side of Luffy's body (aka, blood) are still there in the OG manga panel.

Fireld said:
Agreed. It's not like these guys have Kaido/King/Armstrong mentality where they try to tank most stuff and avoid attacks only when absolutely neccasary.
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HOW DARE YOU CROSS OUT ARMSTRONG'S NAME.

But yeah, that's fair.

Though I will note that Queen, whose mouth has a lot of sharp teeth, bit down on Luffy in 989 and he was fine.
 
Kachon123 said:
Why does that have to be blood?
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What else could those dark drops be, especially since the mark on the side of his body is similarly dark.
Kachon123 said:
I'm not sure what you're referring to.

If you're talking about his arms, that's Buso
If you're talking about the other thing, that's his shirt.
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There is something below his shirt that is a dark stain/mark on his body.

That's blood.
 
Kachon123 said:
I've been waiting since last year for the digital colors to see if something is blood or not...

It's painful, but there's nothing we can do about it.
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Don't tell me, it's Sanji related.

Eminiteable said:
They release a few volumes every year, just wait.
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They've only gotten up to 1004, if they release 6 per year, then I'm not going to wait 6 ******* years.

I'll probably already be working in McDonald's to pay off my college debt by then.
 
I'm sorry but I don't want to have to wait 6 years.

By then KT will have probably split the scaling values for the Scabbards and the God Tiers.
 
It might be but it's like 3 tiny drops of blood and Luffy still successfully deflected it for the most part.
 
Eminiteable said:
Fine then don't, that's not blood.
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Those drops are probably blood, and he has a darkened mark on the side of his body.

When Zoro and Killer cut Kaido, those drops that are currently considered blood were the exact same dark shade.
 
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