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Honestly, Strangeverse has a point. Chara somehow getting Mario to give up his soul is as valid a Wincon as Mario convincing Chara to BFR himself. It's such a unlikelyhood that it really shouldn't be considered. Was Mario tricked by Bowser before? Yes, he was, but doesn't Bowser have a higher intelligence rating than Chara? This is like saying L from Death Note get's tricked by Patrick Star- Maybe not on the same scale, but the idea is still the same. We can't just ignore the vast intelligence gap in favor of giving Chara a false wincon of convincing Mario to just give his soul up.

That being said, though I find this argument to have merit, I'm assuming this will be added ignoring this point, anyways.
Well you kinda ignored all my posts about intelligence. Bowser is a genuis at Technology and MAYBE planning, he barely has feats at manipulatin or tricking people and he actually has feats against it since he is bad at common sense and messes up quiet a lot
 
Well you kinda ignored all my posts about intelligence. Bowser is a genuis at Technology and MAYBE planning, he barely has feats at manipulatin or tricking people and he actually has feats against it since he is bad at common sense and messes up quiet a lot
Played up the dumb brute role to successfully trick Antasma and take the Dream Stone for himself, the latter of which was an incredibly calculating and careful individual.
Yeah, Bowser not having any feats of trickery is pretty BS when it's right on his profile.
 
Played up the dumb brute role to successfully trick Antasma and take the Dream Stone for himself, the latter of which was an incredibly calculating and careful individual.
Yeah, Bowser not having any feats of trickery is pretty BS when it's right on his profile.
Thats disguising nothing about deal or word tricking. Lets say I am good at disguising myself and acting would that make me good at manipulating? Or making deals and tricking people?
 
Thats disguising nothing about deal or word tricking. Lets say I am good at disguising myself and acting would that make me good at manipulating? Or making deals and tricking people?
Bowser makes a dumb brute persona not a costume, pulling a persona to trick people in getting what you is just as valid as word trickery since you have a role, act a certain way, and lower people's expectations of what you could do to/for them until it's time to drop the persona.
 
Bowser makes a dumb brute persona not a costume, pulling a persona to trick people in getting what you is just as valid as word trickery since you have a role, act a certain way, and lower people's expectations of what you could do to/for them until it's time to drop the persona.
So its acting ans tricking? Still I dont see how that reflects to chara who tricks the player just by talking to them so it might work.
 
WHAT IS MARIO'S WINCON? Seriously, what can he do here? Everything he has can be countered by SAVE/LOAD.
 
If their consciousness is removed, wouldn't that apply to the Soul? I don't believe there is a example of subconcious SAVE/LOADing outside of actual death
are you concious while dead? when you die your brain stops working, yet humans are still concious, therefore they would very likely still be
 
chara scales to countless actually
Yeah, countless into 2-B is absolutely NLF tier cause one your practically trying to say 2-A without using infinity, two you could wank that "countless" timelines in above googolplex numbers with no context or evidence which is absurd for anything possibly into 2-B
 
Yeah, countless into 2-B is absolutely NLF tier cause one your practically trying to say 2-A without using infinity, two you could wank that "countless" timelines in above googolplex numbers with no context or evidence which is absurd for anything possibly into 2-B
that what they scale to tho scales, see the profile please, and countless is not 2-A, it is the high end 2-B on this site
 
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