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If the stone’s max AP when used by Thanos is 6-B, then how were they destroyed? Did Thanos just use the stones to their max power against one another until they were “gone, reduced to atoms”?
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This is a great question
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Maybe, I mean this is basically what I assumed actually happened since he said "I used to Stones to destroy the Stones", not "I made the Stones destroy themselves" in a way implying he "ordered" them to self-destruct individually
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I always assumed that Thanos just did what he said, "reduced them to atoms", and that they more or less still "exist" in a non-tangible form with no current method of reconcentrating/recombining them.
Going off of what the Collector said:
"Before creation itself, there were six singularities. Then the universe exploded into existence, and the remnants of these systems were forged into concentrated ingots... Infinity Stones."
What the Eternals intro text said:
"In the beginning... before the six Singularities and the dawn of creation, came the CELESTIALS. Arishem, the Prime Celestial, created the first sun and brought light into the universe. Life began, and thrived. All was in balance."
What Wong said:
"At the dawn of the universe, there was nothing. Then... Boom. The Big Bang sent six elemental crystals hurtling across the virgin universe. These Infinity Stones each control an essential aspect of existence."
And this page from the GotG Art book:
It's either the "Big Bang concentrated the Six Singularities, created by the Cosmic Entities, into the Six Infinity Stones, and sent them out across the new universe" or the "Cosmic Entities concentrated the Six Singularities and the Big Bang sent them across into the new universe"
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I always assumed that Thanos just did what he said, "reduced them to atoms", and that they more or less still "exist" in a non-tangible form with no current method of reconcentrating/recombining them.
Going off of what the Collector said:
"Before creation itself, there were six singularities. Then the universe exploded into existence, and the remnants of these systems were forged into concentrated ingots... Infinity Stones."
What the Eternals intro text said:
"In the beginning... before the six Singularities and the dawn of creation, came the CELESTIALS. Arishem, the Prime Celestial, created the first sun and brought light into the universe. Life began, and thrived. All was in balance."
What Wong said:
"At the dawn of the universe, there was nothing. Then... Boom. The Big Bang sent six elemental crystals hurtling across the virgin universe. These Infinity Stones each control an essential aspect of existence."
And this page from the GotG Art book:
It's either the "Big Bang concentrated the Six Singularities, created by the Cosmic Entities, into the Six Infinity Stones, and sent them out across the new universe" or the "Cosmic Entities concentrated the Six Singularities and the Big Bang sent them across into the new universe"
This basically is my thoughts on the matter as well, thr stones certainly still exist just not in a form tangible enough to used since they're literally reduced to atoms
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Yeah, the Russos also directly confirmed this
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Still kinda funny that, along with the Celestials and Cosmic Entities, the Dark Elves are one of the oldest civilizations that predates the current MC-Universe, and one of the first to find and use an Infinity Stone.
Then got beaten by Space Vikings, who I assume also found and used another Infinity Stone (I assume they used the Space Stone to power the Bifrost cannon thing instead of using just Magic since it seems draining to use).
Time went to Humans, Mind to the Chitauri, and Soul to Vormir, while Power exchanged hands multiple times.
Then got beaten by Space Vikings, who I assume also found and used another Infinity Stone (I assume they used the Space Stone to power the Bifrost cannon thing instead of using just Magic since it seems draining to use).
Time went to Humans, Mind to the Chitauri, and Soul to Vormir, while Power exchanged hands multiple times.
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Humans learning the Mystic Arts for the first time
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Yeah, I recall this to but I was mostly talking about how Thanos reduced them to their current state
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Considering the Soul Stone is more than implied to be sentient (more than the others), it's possible it kind of decided to land on Vormir
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Magic
Magic is the practice of harnessing various forms of energy to manipulate one or more aspects of the infinite realities that are present within the Multiverse. It encompasses many different activities, including astral projection, divination, teleportation and spell-casting and includes the...
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I wonder what kind of Magic people would choose (
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• Learn Eldritch Magic, Mirror Dimension Magic and Martial Arts from the Masters of the Mystic Arts.
• Get access to the Book of Cagliostro or somehow go to the Lost Library of Cagliostro.
• Learn Dark Dimension Magic and stack it on top of your Eldritch Magic.
• Locate and acquire the Dark Hold.
• Learn Dark Hold Magic and Dark Magic from the Dark Hold, and stack them on top of your Eldritch, Mirror Dimension, and Dark Dimension Magic.
• Profit
• Get access to the Book of Cagliostro or somehow go to the Lost Library of Cagliostro.
• Learn Dark Dimension Magic and stack it on top of your Eldritch Magic.
• Locate and acquire the Dark Hold.
• Learn Dark Hold Magic and Dark Magic from the Dark Hold, and stack them on top of your Eldritch, Mirror Dimension, and Dark Dimension Magic.
• Profit
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But what if I told you, you could choose and have only one? 
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Only magic I need is that cape on stranges backBut what if I told you, you could choose and have only one?
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The magic that i only need is the sheer rawness of Bully Macguire
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Apparently dark elf tech can do this
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Reminds me that Gorr and L&T Thor should get some kind of resistance for enduring the Bifrost, which pulls beings apart on a cellular, molecular and atomic level
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Gorr and Thor resisting the Bifrost is atomic level - Gen. Discussion - Comic Vine
So the Bifrost pulls you on a cellular and even atomic level, so if you're standing against it like Gorr was, you'd need to be strong, of course, but
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Sadly no, though Thor tanked the reailty stone so there’s that
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Only the Shields of Einherjar are able to tank and deflect the energy bolts, whereas their armor gets easily penetrated by the energy bolts.
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Oh then mjolnir could also potentially scale to that, considering it is supposed to be one of asgards greatest weapons
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Hela might've destroyed a couple of those shields in Ragnarok when she took on all of Asgards forces, I don't remember if she does though
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On a second glance, Dark Elf Particle Rifle particle bolts specify tearing apart "Living Tissue" at a molecular level.
Does this mean that it does nothing to nonorganic material other than generic energy blast? If so, then there wouldn't be any Resistance nor Resistance scaling from it.
IIRC stuff like this is usually indexed as Limited Durability Negation.
Does this mean that it does nothing to nonorganic material other than generic energy blast? If so, then there wouldn't be any Resistance nor Resistance scaling from it.
IIRC stuff like this is usually indexed as Limited Durability Negation.
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Why would Hela and her weapons scale to the Dark Elves' Particle Rifle's Hax?
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Because the Particle Rifle's couldn't pierce Einherjar shields and (maybe iirc) Hela can
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How does that make her scale to its Hax though?
A Dark Elf's Rifle's Particle Bolt is both AP (Enough to pierce through Einherjar Armor and the Einherjar) and Hax (Molecular Tearing Apart of Living Tissue)
Einherjar Shields are just more Durability than the Armor to the point of Deflecting the Particle Bolts, while being unaffected by the Hax because the Hax is specified to target Living Tissue.
Hela and her weapons would just have higher AP than the Shields could withstand if she could pierce them, and would nothing to do with the Bolt's Hax Portion
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Asgardian weapons, from knives to swords, have always seemed to be able to harm or threaten opponents leagues above the wielder.
Thor, Kurse, Hela, and potentially Thanos were either harmed or threatened by Asgardian weapons.
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Oh right I missed the living tissue part
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An Asgard civilisation page would be interesting to make knowing that, with them being at most 8-A normally and 6-B with their weapons and defenses
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Should the Eternals get a group profile?
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Earth Eternals should be a key in their group profile since it gets split up by the end of the movie. The time we'll see them, it'll be Makkari, Druig, Thena, and Trash.
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bro who's trash
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bro who's trash
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Pip the Troll would like to know your location.
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