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It's not as direct as Hela's statement.
It's still not to the level of knowledge that Hela shows towards the Tesseract and the Eternal Flame.
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MCU: High 6-A/5-C Upgrades
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I don’t see why not, the tesseract is essentially a super weapon and Ronan drops that for carolWorm: The Gold Calc Morning
It's not as direct as Hela's statement.
It's still not to the level of knowledge that Hela shows towards the Tesseract and the Eternal Flame.
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Variable power based on size though
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wasn't it only labelled to be variable based on size because it was considered an outlier then for it to scale to actual AP
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Nah gamora literally says it varies with size
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O damn nvm then
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Yeah lol the link we had to the video is broken tho so it likely was taken down. We'd need to find it and reapply it to the profile
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Pretty sure that’s only when it’s not by someone controlled
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Really though I think all of this should at least make possiby High 6-A viable at the very least because captain marvel has a lot going for her alongside the tesseract stuff and some conveniently alligned feats in What-If and statements from feige all which come out to High 6-A
Not the calc for that but it would be consistent with CM in What-If having this high 6-A feat as well
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I don't see why holding the power stone doesn't scale to someone's AP, considering there literally "Channels" the energy of the stone in order to do stuff with it.
Ronin did it and nearly popped, the only reason he was saved was because he jammed it into his (Likely Uru) hammer.
Thanos held that shit for a far longer time than Ronin and never threatened to pop, do note that Thanos is far larger than Ronin as well the the power he would be channeling would be even greater.
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Btw can you update the OP @RoTt35 with this stuff
Add this as well for feige's statement
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Since that's also high 6-A
And remove scarlet witch and rockets nidvallir stuff as well
Add this as well for feige's statement
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And remove scarlet witch and rockets nidvallir stuff as well
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The Power Stone amped Ronan to Moon level durability, and it is stated that its user gains enhanced stamina
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Why are you removing rockets stuff?Btw can you update the OP @RoTt35 with this stuff
Add this as well for feige's statement
Since that's also high 6-AWorm: The Gold Calc Morning
And remove scarlet witch and rockets nidvallir stuff as well
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Ah here's feige's statement for ya
Shit nvm I found some articles it was this statement here that I sent above so it was correct that feige said she could punch a moon awayWe can talk about this in the MCU discussion thread and I asked for help finding it there since I'm having trouble and it's likely burried pretty deep
This so far is the only thing close to ir I could find:
When explaining the character in-depth, and specifically the casting of Brie Larson, Feige reveals, “With Captain Marvel, who has powers that approach a level that we haven’t seen before in our films, you need to counter-balance that by finding somebody who is also very human and very relatable and can get into a groove with the audience, where they’re willing to see her fly through the sun and punch a moon away from a spacecraft. At the same time, we need her to land and have relatable flaws.”
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Marvel’s Kevin Feige on ‘Spider-Man’s’ Future and Why Brie Larson Was Perfect for ‘Captain Marvel’
Kevin Feige aims to keep the comic-book imprint on a roll at the cineplex.
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Because it's decisive and not agreed on as beeing usable by most people here
Infinity War and Endgame scaling
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Based on what?Ah here's feige's statement for ya
Shit nvm I found some articles it was this statement here that I sent above so it was correct that feige said she could punch a moon away
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Here's the feige stuff for yaMarvel’s Kevin Feige on ‘Spider-Man’s’ Future and Why Brie Larson Was Perfect for ‘Captain Marvel’
Kevin Feige aims to keep the comic-book imprint on a roll at the cineplex.
Because it's decisive and not agreed on as beeing usable by most people here
Infinity War and Endgame scaling
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I mean why do people disagree with it?
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Were not just gonna handwave a statement so blatant.
His words exactly:
Ronin: We'll be back for the weapon
Lacky: The Core (Tesseract)
Ronin: The Woman (Strong women music plays)
Seems pretty cut and dry that Ronin considers Carol a greater weapon than even the Tesseract
Scales to Thanos as he was able to tank the full power of the stone without relying on a weapon, and in extension anyone who was able to at least somewhat compare to Thanos.
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Is been disagreed upon by like 2 people, don't give up so quickly man.
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He only used it for a short while in his fist, even Ronan had difficulty putting that power into his own hands and had to use his hammer instead.
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Just woke up, so I wanna give my proper thoughts
Disagree FRA
Kinda vague, but I'm okay with it
Disagree for SW, but I'm okay for Stormbreaker
Sure
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These two are kinda hand and hand tho so I wouldn't say its entirely vague since feige's statement supports that along with the common feat and what if all being high 6-A
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Captain Marvel's High 6-A feat is solid, but no one other than SW scales to her.
How so?
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Except unlike Ronin his entire body wasn't glowing and about to pop, despite holding it longer than Ronin.
Also note that in this scene Thanos does not seem fazed by Ronin's threat to kill him
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What you just said CM and SW that's all tho
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Yeah, that's why I said kinda vague. But I'm really okay with using it
Thanos could easily take direct attacks from Captain Marvel before throwing her aside
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No on magics tho, his statement also doesn't mention how the energy would be used.
Do you need to power a machine that allows for indimensional travel?
Is the energy focused on beam to break the fabric of reality?
The space stone (Which is the one cosmic objects that Selvig interacted the most) can create portals due to its inherence ability to manipulate space, not necesariliy energy.
I will try to address the other points later.
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While this is true, he has to put back the stone he take out into the infinity gauntlet.
Anyway, I am neutral overall.
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They're aren't High 6-C anymore
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Yes, but he can channel the (Greater than Ronin levels) energy without popping.
Also why the hell would he not do that? His entire motive in this scene is to remake the universe which requires all the stones together
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Just gona copy this here since I don't feel like re-writing it
His words exactly:
Ronin: We'll be back for the weapon
Lacky: The Core (Tesseract)
Ronin: The Woman (Strong women music plays)
Seems pretty cut and dry that Ronin considers Carol a greater weapon than even the Tesseract
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There is also the scene where we were told his future self destroyed the stones and even outright stated it damn near killed him during the attempt to destroy the stones.
Also not sure if it counts as being longer than Ronan’s exposure to the same stone Thanos was using tbh.
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Ronan indirectly agreed with Korath, who also knows the power of Captain Marvel, stating that Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe. So according to statements and feats the scaling would be: Tesseract < Captain Marvel (1995) < Thanos < Captain Marvel (2018-2023), makes sense considering it was the first time Captain Marvel unleashed her true power and the time gap
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Overall not bad but some of the points are pretty faulty.
- I dunno how the Ronan statement proves literally anything, so I'm going to ask for some context. It's been a minute since I've seen Captain Marvel. From what I can tell it's literally him just clarifying that Captain Marvel is the one they are searching for. @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson 's explanation doesn't really help because he just repeated what they said again.
- Thanos is most certainly not stronger than Captain Marvel, so that implication may as well be null.
- The Captain Marvel section is kind of questionable because it seems more...illustrative than anything else? Like I guess it could be used, but 'punch a moon away from a spacecraft' is very vague, and not at all 'knocking the moon out of orbit', so you'll probably have to throw that out.
- The Eternal Flame comment from Hela is also completely bunk. There is literally no implication that the Flame has more AP than the Tesseract, and this further supported by how the Eternal Flame isn't even used for AP??? Like that's so vague it's unuseable.
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