That argument wouldn't be entirely invalid....if it wasn't for the fact that there's literally a guidebook statement backing it up
that he doesn't have to exclusively have one reason to keep the flame around in a room trophied with other powerful tools he's collected
...so you're saying he's intelligent enough to make that statement but not credible enough...think about that anywho its not like its just him Odin and apparently whatever old writing that shows stormbreaker being some powerful ancient weapon that can reach eternity in love and thunder is credible enough as is itself
I’m not saying the Hydron Enforcer can’t destroy moons, but the Nidvallier statement is completely scuffed.
Ah, alright. My bad
My guy, this is not it. He kept it because of Surtur. That’s it. Final.
You gotta word your statements better.
All good.
He litterly says they make the most powerful weapons to ever torment the universe. So he seems to have a pretty good idea of how powerful they are.
I’m saying he hasn’t seen the place, or have a high amount of knowledge on it, as seen later in the movie.
Nah it doesn't tie into the rest of the CRT and it has been addressed
Dosen’t matter, he knows how powerful there weapons are and considers them high tier
There is nothing that states that this is being channeled through the portal in a manner to attack tho. Nor is it stated that the same amount of energy applies to closing it. Or maybe, magic bypasses that energy need altogether.
Again, the magic could just be bypassing the energy consumption barrier entirely.
Okay.
Seems vague if anything. If it was something more direct like actual statements like calling Captain Marvel as much worse than the Tesseract or something, I'd buy it. But as it stands, I personally would not use this.
Scales absolutely to no one, Surtr folded the entire gang.
I have a massive problem with this.
That'd be grounds for 5-A if anything else but we're not ready to have that conversation yet because of the whole "Against celestial objects" argument honestly. And because Thanos on his own overpowered Endgame Thor despite the latter having Stormbreaker.
Cool, scales to nobody else sadly.
Nobody scales to the full might of Stormbreaker, and Mjolnir was clearly weaker before Hela, relying on whatever Thor's power level was.
No
Ok
This actually is ok to me.
Like KLOL said, not sure if this scales to anyone besides Prime Odin.
Seems fine
FRA this doesn't work
See above
Wouldn't this scale to the Power Stone itself?
Too vague
Well ronan does and it's not listed on his profile
Shouldn't that still be listed on the profile then, X tier with stormbreaker?
Isn't that LS though when he wrestled Thor with it?
Really off topic, great profile pic
The KLOL reasoning and the other fact you're trying to string together like don't relate in the slightest KLOLs reasoning is due to magic bypassing which I think is fine however the Ms.Marvel thing was literally an essential plot point and the world would have been destroyed so it's pretty credible when its part of the essential plot of the show
The statement comes from Erik Selvig, who's basically an authority on physics within the MCU and was a key factor in stopping the convergence in The Dark World and even tried warning people about it before it happened, to say he doesn't have knowledge on things like ignores how credible he's been in the past
This is the only thing tying Stormbreaker to the Hydron Enforcer, and a power stone amped Thanos overpowered Carol.
And still is in the first avenger
Yeah but the cap was also like way lower than now
I thought it already was used for scaling
This gives more credibility to moon level MCU and Captain Marvel being above the tesseractShit nvm I found some articles it was this statement here that I sent above so it was correct that feige said she could punch a moon awayWe can talk about this in the MCU discussion thread and I asked for help finding it there since I'm having trouble and it's likely burried pretty deep
This so far is the only thing close to ir I could find:
When explaining the character in-depth, and specifically the casting of Brie Larson, Feige reveals, “With Captain Marvel, who has powers that approach a level that we haven’t seen before in our films, you need to counter-balance that by finding somebody who is also very human and very relatable and can get into a groove with the audience, where they’re willing to see her fly through the sun and punch a moon away from a spacecraft. At the same time, we need her to land and have relatable flaws.”
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Marvel’s Kevin Feige on ‘Spider-Man’s’ Future and Why Brie Larson Was Perfect for ‘Captain Marvel’
Kevin Feige aims to keep the comic-book imprint on a roll at the cineplex.variety.com
So yeah these were from the same time when feige said this but you get my point that WoG can give extreme statements
I meant people other than Ronan don't scale.
I thought the High 6-A stuff to Stormbreaker was already added.
Both, he parried the blows eventually and he was trying to dig in deep into Thor with the axe himself.
Here's the thing, the Tesseract actually has the offensive capability on that level, the portal opening via the Sling Rings is based on pure conjecture that it truly uses the energy the Sun emits or that it can even use the energy in offensive forms when closing.
Nah its from the bifrost being channeled through stormbreaker
Fair
Yeah the magic not scaling is fine I'm moreso talking about the precedent of things that aren't magically involved in the MCU creating portals should be accepted as such from here on at the very least
IDK, if it can't be used in offensive capabilities as well I'd be hard-pressed to avoid using them in the first place.
Knocking our moon out of Orbit is High 6-A
Had a feeling somebody may have calc’d that by now. Good to know
Yeah that's fine it doesn't need to be unless like we have some statement someone is using the same energy they used in the case of something like this
Couldn't that scale to CM via this statement and Ronan thinking CM is above the tesseract then? And the Korath thinking thanos is like >>> ?
Calc?
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Thanos is certainly portrayed as superior to Ronan in GoTG and we know that the Power Stone doesn’t amp durability. Make of that what you will
