Meliodas and Zeldris vs Asta and Yuno

[YoutubeForKing]

Meliodas and Zeldris vs Asta and Yuno.
All 6-C (Fourth key Asta and Yuno, Second key zeldris and Final key meli with Assault mode and True Magic restricted.)
Speed is =

Team Meldris - 0
Team Yasta - 0
Incon - 0

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Voting asta for anti magic gg.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Interesting

 

[Overlord1]

Ominous Nebula and Dark Matter do not use magic. Both Zeldris and Meliodas are extremely skilled combat masters. How do Asta and Yuno deal with it?

 

[VsReferee]

Voting asta for anti magic gg.

No . How is antimagic working against someone more skilled?

I think that if Meliodas and zeldris see that antimagic doesn't work, they will use their (sword) skills instead against Asta.

If their skills is greater than asta's, how is Asta overcoming is that?

The Demons still would use their magic on Yuno

 

[Epsilon_R]

I dunno about then being more skilled than Asta

 

[Epsilon_R]

No . How is antimagic working against someone more skilled?

I think that if Meliodas and zeldris see that antimagic doesn't work, they will use their (sword) skills instead against Asta.

If their skills is greater than asta's, how is Asta overcoming is that?

The Demons still would use their magic on Yuno

Yuno's erases their swords with his aura to begin with

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Asta stomps
I will not elaborate
Bye

 

[VsReferee]

Yuno's erases their swords with his aura to begin with

Oh what kind of ability is it? And what if Meliodas and zeldris use their Darkness (which is not magic) as their weapon?

 

[YoutubeForKing]

I need you to fully run down the things that yuno can do here.
Like i understand asta and his dura neg but as for Yuno what can he even do here.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Oh what kind of ability is it? And what if Meliodas and zeldris use their Darkness (which is not magic) as their weapon?

Actually nevermind, this version of Yuno doesn't have that

I need you to fully run down the things that yuno can do here.
Like i understand asta and his dura neg but as for Yuno what can he even do here.

Yuno can manipulate the Mana across the battlefield and spam attacks from every direction

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Actually nevermind, this version of Yuno doesn't have that

Yuno can manipulate the Mana across the battlefield and spam attacks from every direction

I think powernull just gets rid of it

 

[Epsilon_R]

I think powernull just gets rid of it

Power null Resistance + Loved by Mana so they can't power null him

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Power null Resistance + Loved by Mana so they can't power null him

If he's loved by mana wouldn't that make all of their mana based attacks useless

 

[VsReferee]

Think so, against zeldris especially. Meliodas has 2 counter:

-full counter
-Counter vanish
We only has 2 feats for counter vanish

Counter vanish allows Meliodas to just vanish the magic with bare hands or weapon.

This could be usefull against Yuno I think

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Okay I’m back, what did I miss

What is Meldris’ AP value.

 

[Epsilon_R]

If he's loved by mana wouldn't that make all of their mana based attacks useless

Their, as in Yuno and Asta? No, it actually grants Yuno a bunch of stuffs such as accelerated development and resistance to layered power null. And Asta doesn't use magic in the first place

 

[VsReferee]

A question, Lucifero punched Asta, why didn't his punch work? Were his punches amped with gravity(which got nulled)

 

[Epsilon_R]

A question, Lucifero punched Asta, why didn't his punch work? Were his punches amped with gravity(which got nulled)

They were, but Asta also got stronger

 

[Tatsumi504]

I don't see how yuno resisting power null based on being loved by mama protection him from Mel that can just counter vanish the manager itself

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Mana Zone + Anti-Mana Zone GG.

 

[VsReferee]

Could someone post scans about Yuno manazone? I wonder what it looks like. And doesn't Asta disrupt the manazone because of antimagic? This happened against lucifero

 

[Tatsumi504]

Meliodas counter vanish's, Asta can't even fight near yuno so their teamwork would be shit.

 

[Nierre]

Could someone post scans about Yuno manazone? I wonder what it looks like. And doesn't Asta disrupt the manazone because of antimagic? This happened against lucifero

Oh wait that's actually a good point lmao

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Could someone post scans about Yuno manazone? I wonder what it looks like. And doesn't Asta disrupt the manazone because of antimagic? This happened against lucifero

Okay,

Mana Zone is a technique that borrows the surrounding mana to boost speed, boost power, improve enhanced senses, increase the size/ number of spells, and cast spells from anywhere omnidirectionally to catch opponents off guard. Spells can even be cast within another opponent's spell.

No Asta can not disrupt the mana zone because DU has only been shown to do that and Yuno can still fight alongside Black mode Asta as shown against Zagred. Again that was Devil Union Asta and he did not affect the entire double-man Mana Zone.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Oh wait that's actually a good point lmao

It's far from a good point LMFAO.

Its pre-time skip Asta,

DU would've been an issue

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Asta can't even fight near yuno so their teamwork would be shit.

Sorry, are we all watching White Clover here?

 

[Nierre]

oh i wasnt paying attention to the keys

my mind instantly thought current

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Meliodas counter vanish's, Asta can't even fight near yuno so their teamwork would be shit.

Yeah, their teamwork would be totally awful.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Anyways, I don’t really see what Meliodas nor Zeldris do. Counter Vanish? Yuno bombards him with attacks that spawn on him before he can even lift his hand to do it. Can’t Counter Vanish Anti-Magic, so he just smacks him with the sword.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Okay,

Mana Zone is a technique that borrows the surrounding mana to boost speed, boost power, improve enhanced senses, increase the size/ number of spells, and cast spells from anywhere omnidirectionally to catch opponents off guard. Spells can even be cast within another opponent's spell.

No Asta can not disrupt the mana zone because DU has only been shown to do that and Yuno can still fight alongside Black mode Asta as shown against Zagred. Again that was Devil Union Asta and he did not affect the entire double-man Mana Zone.

Wasn't referring to DU. I was talking about how his anti magic automatically homes in on large sources of mana.
Against zagred and licht, they were clearly the bigger fish and as such he could fight alongside yuno, here as long as Mel and Zeldris suppress their magic its going to home in on yuno

 

[Tatsumi504]

Sorry, are we all watching White Clover here?

Wasn't referring to DU. I was talking about how his anti magic automatically homes in on large sources of mana.
Against zagred and licht, they were clearly the bigger fish and as such he could fight alongside yuno, here as long as Mel and Zeldris suppress their magic its going to home in on yuno

 

[Tatsumi504]

Yeah, their teamwork would be totally awful.

Clearly everyone seems to have automatically forgotten black asta automatically homes in on large sources of mana regardless of his will. In this fight the obvious choice is yuno .

 

[Tatsumi504]

Anyways, I don’t really see what Meliodas nor Zeldris do. Counter Vanish? Yuno bombards him with attacks that spawn on him before he can even lift his hand to do it. Can’t Counter Vanish Anti-Magic, so he just smacks him with the sword.

Drop a scan of one instance where yuno did this. Not like mel actually has to do anything to use counter vanish.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I would appreciate you didn’t quote me twice, just make one long, concise response.

Clearly everyone seems to have automatically forgotten black asta automatically homes in on large sources of mana regardless of his will. In this fight the obvious choice is yuno .

No - you’re just incorrect. It is never stated anywhere irregardless of will. He willingly chose to attack Zagred, even though Yuno was right beside him. If this was the case, he would’ve been attacked Yuno, Yami, Licht, Nozel, Lumiene, etc. He did not, so your assertion is false.

Drop a scan of one instance where yuno did this. Not like mel actually has to do anything to use counter vanish.

I can do more than one. Here. Mana Zone is also cited to attack from any direction, and within the same chapter, Yuno does this consecutively, which is credited to Mana Zone. Yuno stands there, and blasts them from behind again, and again, and again.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Wasn't referring to DU. I was talking about how his anti magic automatically homes in on large sources of mana.
Against zagred and licht, they were clearly the bigger fish and as such he could fight alongside yuno, here as long as Mel and Zeldris suppress their magic its going to home in on yuno

Seems like you tagged the wrong message

Anyway, Anti Magic does homes in on large sources of mana however this only applies to Black Meteorite and Yuno can use that attack to his advantage by getting behind an opponent and pseudo-amping Asta's speed by displaying his aura and using his wind magic to speed him up.

So Asta is not a magnet as soon as he transforms, he is only that way if he uses Black Meteorite... so he simply doesn't use that attack like an idiot unless necessary. This is not a big issue.

Thanks for the Yuno compliment btw.

Clearly everyone seems to have automatically forgotten black asta automatically homes in on large sources of mana regardless of his will. In this fight the obvious choice is yuno .

"regardless of his will" false

Drop a scan of one instance where yuno did this. Not like mel actually has to do anything to use counter vanish.

Spawned spirit dive directly behind two elves each.

why? Mana Zone :3

Im sure the other dude will reply you adequately

 

[Tatsumi504]

I can do more than one. Here. Mana Zone is also cited to attack from any direction, and within the same chapter, Yuno does this consecutively, which is credited to Mana Zone. Yuno stands there, and blasts them from behind again, and again, and again.

You said he can spawn attacks directly on them. I'm not contemplating whether manazone grants him omnidirectional attacks, I'm asking for where he spawned it directly on his opponent

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

You said he can spawn attacks directly on them. I'm not contemplating whether manazone grants him omnidirectional attacks, I'm asking for where he spawned it directly on his opponent

I did, where he spawns a tornado inside someone’s spell. This isn’t a one off thing, as that’s done far before Yuno ever does.

 

[Makai641001]

Power null Resistance + Loved by Mana so they can't power null him

The power null Is layered and magic IN general can’t affect Zel or Negative energy users even people like Merlin who can negate resistances and nullify magic or reflect it couldn’t do much mana zone Would get nullified approching them

amps Would give them the edge Zel Can also create zones With his sword slashs that Send danmaku like he did against Mael etc… Soul hax them also What about fear hax that bypassed multiple heros + Arthur will while he was capable of harming them and confident in himself Darkness isn’t magic destroyer types like Meli use natural éléments powernull won’t work their Resistance to magic as a whole will be enough and it gets layer as demons get stronger

Base AP is irrelevant knowing They can amp themselves multiple times and Enchantments are getting applied to NNT too ON would be too much to handle too as It would disrupt and counter anything Using full react and attract them it’s speed is amped when Zel uses forms since it’s based on his fighting speed

Yuno can have as much love as he wants his magic can’t touch them they don’t resist soul hax or fear hax and even ppl with strong wills are getting fear haxed too In terms of skills they aren’t as skilled as Meli and Zel

Meliodas and Zeldris vs Asta and Yuno.
All 6-C (Fourth key Asta and Yuno, Second key zeldris and Final key meli with Assault mode and True Magic restricted.)
Speed is =

Team Meldris - 0
Team Yasta - 0
Incon - 0

ALSO PLEASE STOP DOING VS USING NNT
It’s at least the 5th Time we ask you gently to refrain on them the main supporters of the verse can’t even either argue for it or participate In these mostly cause they got banned or don’t want to
Wait until the upgrades are finished.

 

[Epsilon_R]

The power null Is layered and magic IN general can’t affect Zel or Negative energy users even people like Merlin who can negate resistances and nullify magic or reflect it couldn’t do much mana zone Would get nullified approching them

Yuno's resistance is layered as well. He won't get nulled.

What about fear hax that bypassed multiple heros + Arthur will while he was capable of harming them and confident in himself Darkness isn’t magic destroyer types like Meli use natural éléments powernull won’t work their Resistance to magic as a whole will be enough and it gets layer as demons get stronger

Mind Manip resistance counters that.

amps Would give them the edge Zel [...] They can amp themselves multiple times and Enchantments are getting applied to NNT too

You act like Asta an Yuno don't have better amps. 2× AP amp + 2× speed amp + AD + RPL + Mana Zone on top of that

ON would be too much to handle too as It would disrupt and counter anything

Yuno attacks from within ON.

Yuno can have as much love as he wants his magic can’t touch them they don’t resist soul hax or fear hax and even ppl with strong wills are getting fear haxed too

Neither Zeldris or Mel use soul Manip in character, Zel is more like to do so though.

In terms of skills they aren’t as skilled as Meli and Zel

Lmao. Did either one of them adapt to opponents, to the point of adapting to a blitz or an AP stomp, as well as Asta and Yuno did ? Can they use their weapon as well and as many different, yet efficient ways as Asta? Are they faster learners than Yuno ? Did they ever stole someone's technique just by observing it once?

Just curious, bc I keep seeing Mel being more skilled than Asta, yet haven't seen anything backing up that claim. And assuming they are more skilled, I don't see what stops Asta from stealing some of their techniques and beat them up with them