GodlyCharmander
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Her arm speed is MHS (Mach 441). The ball is high end MHS+.
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Could this be used for an upgrade? (Spy x Family Chapter 65)
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So that means the manga feats are not gag scenes?
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What? What kinda argument is this? First of foremost, you just stringed 2 totally unrelated arguments into one. It being a "gag feat" does not imply that Yor didnt perform it, neither does Yor doing the feat imply that it is a gag feat. Second of all, Yor literally pulled multiple humanly impossible feats within that match. Like who the **** else would have performed that feat? the team of normal ass housewives??
The ******* crater is literally a separate feat. It is not connected to Yor punching the Ball into space.
They are not talking about Yor creating a crater either nor about how she nearly destroyed the net. Does that now mean that she didnt perfom those feats too? Like **** me, do you know what a montage is?
The feat happend, Yor performed it, there is no debate on that front. The only issue right now is the legitimacy of the calc because of KE. Get KLOL's ass into the thread and have him explain it
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Can't use KE out of it because the volleyball isn't heavy enough to qualify. You now need to be as heavy as Robert Wadlow (200 kg, equal to that of a lion's worth of mass) for KE that high to qualify unless you're involved in a tackle-like maneuver or you achieve ablation) as per this CRT which got accepted but still didn't get applied, but escape velocity is 11 km/s. It being a gag feat means ****-all to it being an indexing feat. We use gag feats all the time if they're shown in a sensible manner, unless you wanna call Superman casually blowing a sun away or Wonder Woman lasso'ing a sun as unusable.
Volleyballs are 260-280 grams on average. Average mean of this is 270 g or 0.27 kg.
Earth's escape velocity is 11.186 km/s.
0.5 * 0.27 * 11186^2= 16,892,090.46 J or 0.00403730651 tons of TNT (Wall level+)
Volleyballs are 260-280 grams on average. Average mean of this is 270 g or 0.27 kg.
Earth's escape velocity is 11.186 km/s.
0.5 * 0.27 * 11186^2= 16,892,090.46 J or 0.00403730651 tons of TNT (Wall level+)
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Thank you KLOL. Might want to add why KE is not useable in this weight level anymore too, for those who missed the revision?
The next best feat would be the crater feat then, and seeing as it hovers around 9A, it might be the consistent tier then
The next best feat would be the crater feat then, and seeing as it hovers around 9A, it might be the consistent tier then
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yeah makes more sense than city block+
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It should have already been applied to the KE page in that CRT eons ago, thread remained dead because all the other CGMs involved just got inactive as time went on.
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HOW THE **** DID YOU GET CITY BLOCK LEVEL+ OUT OF A VOLLEYBALL YEETING FEET
YOU'D LITERALLY HAVE TO KICK IT AT MACH 3823.7 TO ACHIEVE 55.5 TONS OF TNT (WHICH IS THE STARTING POINT OF CITY BLOCK LEVEL+). How the **** did you get a speed almost 3x that of cloud-to-ground lightning without latching onto a solid usable timeframe?
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why would those be gag feats exactly?
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Funnily enough, back then such feats weren't portrayed in the most accurate of visuals and weren't done as serious feats, just to pass the time.
Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis changed this significantly.
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It doesn’t since Yor already had city block feats
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It’s consistent
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BASED ON WHAT?
Just becasue she has other 8-B feats doesn't make this feat 8-B on a calc level if the other assumptions are out of whack. It doesn't just have to be consistent, even the math has to be sound and reasonable.
Never mind the fact that we don't allow KE feats below 200 kg for this exact reason. It's open to abuse. Just ask what happened to Low 7-C Spider-Man.
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I see no good reasoning for not being able to use weights less than 200kg on the CRT. If you could explain then please do.
Whats the issue with low 7-C spider-man.
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I see no point Superman always had feats superior to bursting the sun and one alien another human I think it is valid to consider this gag when I have never shown anything even close
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Not in the Golden Age he didn't (That's where his Sun feat comes from). At least, not for the few early issues he appeared in before being phased out by Pre-Crisis Superman
Wondie's star-lassoing feat on even more shaky ground because of how the sun was drawn in her feat.
Hell, even Popeye's feats could be considered gag-ish (Like giving the Moon a black eye or something) even though he has multiple feats on that level.
Outliers are outliers. The feats being gag or not has nothing to do with that. It all comes down to consistency with context.
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Speed is calculable, and 11km/s implies the ball took an extremely long time to reach there. Needless lowball.
She yeeted a ball a whole moon worth of space out of Earth in seconds, the feat is 8-B+, would be 8-A without diameter correction.
Plus, projectiles are stated to be usable for KE, the volleyball counts as such.
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Only if the projectiles are 200+ kg. I have asked DontTalkDT for further clarification regarding less heavier projectiles.
That being said, I'd still wait for the anime version if the 8-B feats truly do exist within the verse.
GodlyCharmander
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Gag feat is such a weak argument. All instances of Yor demonstrating insane feats in front of normal people is supposed to be a "gag" due to how absurdly superhuman she is, that does not invalidate the feat in any way, it's still very much a portray of her strength.
"Let's ignore the feat because it's funny to see a ball fly off into space"
"Let's ignore the true energy behind the feat because we decided you can't calc it here"
Atrocious.
"Let's ignore the feat because it's funny to see a ball fly off into space"
"Let's ignore the true energy behind the feat because we decided you can't calc it here"
Atrocious.
GodlyCharmander
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That is very asinine, so feats with 100kg or less projectiles (that ultimately don't hit anything) are forcibly and utterly useless for scaling because y'all decided as such?
"Wait for the anime", what is this, a One Piece CRT? Nah, the panel implies a fast timeframe, we can use an estimation until the anime comes out.
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Already told people that, they wouldn't listen.
You can thank former Low 7-C Spider-Man shoving Hulk at Mach 433 NarutoForums Edition for the second one.
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I'd say the calc that used 5 seconds is far too much time as its implied far faster then that. So in reality that calc is most likely a very extreme lowball
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An outlier is an outlier.
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That was decided way before I even joined the wiki back when Spidey was getting nuked from Low 7-C because a NarutoForums calc found him shoving Hulk to the sides at Mach 433. Even Robbie Rotten getting yeeted to the Moon and wielding 7-C got nuked because of this.
That being said, I have already asked DontTalkDT regarding situations where the projectile mass is lower than that of Robert Wadlow assuming it isn't just running around with people like the Flash but rather actual full-blown throws, punches and kicks sending shit hurling, or full-powered tackles.
@CloverDragon03 @Aguywhodoesthings @DemonGodMitchAubin @Psychomaster35 Are you fine with this suggestion?
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its not an outlier, vs wiki defines an outlier as " an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power." this would not fit that definition as there is no inconsistency with this. Yor is show getting exponentially stronger throughout the series to the point of being relative to loid at first. Then currently being able to casually blitz him. This isnt even taking into account the other large building to multi city block calcs for yor.
The speed aspect also isnt an outlier by this definition
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I’m personally fine for either option, but given how I am not knowledgeable on this verse, I wouldn’t have knowledge of how long this was done.
GodlyCharmander
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An outlier with what exactly? Yor has never exerted herself to the max when performing a feat.
Her 9-A car feat? Casual.
Her fight with Yor? Casual.
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Basically the suggestion for using an assumed timeframe for now until the anime version of the feat arrives.
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Yor was never relative to Yor. Her drunk self was literally going to kill him.
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I don't think Null was responding to you or me. I certainly never accepted the premise of the feat being rejectable on grounds of being a gag feat.
I honestly had no idea about other 8-B feats for Yor existing prior to his comment.
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Basically due to how long it's going to take until it comes around.
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that's relative in this context. He's not getting blitzed and is able to keep up and dodge attacks. Only reason he would get "killed" is cause she broke his guard
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Yor has always been stronger and faster than Loid, taking out opponents that he could not react to, accidently knocking him out with one-taps, and nearly killing him while on a drunk outburst.
What other feats?
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Yor is the physical god tier of the series. There is literally no one stronger than her OUTSIDE OF 1 SPECULATIVE case (Being Yor's boss, The Shopkeeper). Yor literally defines what feats happen in the series. We are not talking about random human levels performing wacky clown feats, we are talking about a walking catastrophee, whose whole gimmick is "How can I solve issues without violence".
GodlyCharmander
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It's not. She was overwhelming him and Yor literally could do nothing but put up his arms to block, he can't react to her, he can't attack back, he can't do anything and was going to die in just a few hits.
That's not relative.
