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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

Because saying someone moves like a flash isn't really good evidence. Saying someone literally moves like a flash of light is good evidence.
 
Damn, because I was gonna bring up the red demon destroying it and was gonna use the biggest forest in the UK because it was stated to be the biggest Forest in Britannia
 
ByAsura said:
Firstly, night only increases magical power according to the raws.

Secondly, Cusack was implied to have outpaced Flash at some point, but then True Body Ludoshel (it's confirmed the Grace itself moves at SoL, not just possessed Margaret) curbstomps the Original Demon without even using Flash.

Third, Derieri only keep and up outclass him in their Indura Forms, which are among the strongest characters in the series.
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Yeah but chandler and cusack couldn’t even react to ludociel before the night buff and then after the night buff cusack outspeed ludociel and took zero damage from his attacks. Also more magical power means stronger demon mark and demon mark boost a demons stats
 
dude just delete it .. we dont even need it we have all of that info already... thats clogging the chat like crazy
 
speedster352 said:
Yeah but chandler and cusack couldn’t even react to ludociel before the night buff and then after the night buff cusack outspeed ludociel and took zero damage from his attacks. Also more magical power means stronger demon mark and demon mark boost a demons stats
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That's because Ludoshel was at the limit of her vessel.

When's it stated magic boosts stats, or that they had another demon mark?
 
ByAsura said:
That's because Ludoshel was at the limit of her vessel.

When's it stated magic boosts stats, or that they had another demon mark?
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It boosts the power of a demon. Yeah but night boosts the power of a demon all the more to a notable degree it's confusing to just say it boost magic. here
 
Like I said, Chandler says it boosts their magic power in the original raws. He doesn't say power except in a few translations, and the NNT manga is pretty infamous for having terrible translations.
 
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ByAsura said:
If you actually read what I said, Chandler says it boosts their magic power in the original raws. He doesn't say power except in a few translations, and the NNT manga is pretty infamous for having terrible translations.
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But it's not that big of a difference tbh power/magic wouldn't really matter and it's still classified as statistics amplification.
 
Magical power is not stated to be strength and running speed. King and all the other faries are examples of that not being the case.

Statistics amplification isn't even part of the argument here.
 
ByAsura said:
Magical power is not stated to be strength and running speed. King and all the other faries are examples of that not being the case.

Statistics amplification isn't even part of the argument here.
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Yeah but it's too confusing so we can just say that demons get a boost at night the specification isn't that clear is there an official translation? It's not that big of a deal just a noticeable boost at night. Anyway, post the official translation.
 
It's not too confusing. Literally all we have to do is go by what's stated and shown canonically.

It's never shown to be a noticeable boost in physical abilities at night because Ludoshel was weakened. In fact, Chandler and Cusack are called the strongest, fastest and most skilled Demons when beating her, not the strongest and fastest at night/that point in time.

Sure. Here's the raws. Chandler specifically says 魔力, which is magic power/force. Merlin's explanation of power levels in the Albion Arc has the same kanji.
 
ByAsura said:
It's not too confusing. Literally all we have to do is go by what's stated and shown canonically.

It's never shown to be a noticeable boost in physical abilities at night because Ludoshel was weakened. In fact, Chandler and Cusack are called the strongest, fastest and most skilled Demons when beating her, not the strongest and fastest at night/that point in time.

Sure. Here's the raws. Chandler specifically says 魔力, which is magic power/force. Merlin's explanation of power levels in the Albion Arc has the same kanji.
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It changes a lot of things then since Meliodas fought the ten commandments at night time maybe you could add that to your rescaling. I concede for now.
 
ByAsura said:
It's not too confusing. Literally all we have to do is go by what's stated and shown canonically.

It's never shown to be a noticeable boost in physical abilities at night because Ludoshel was weakened. In fact, Chandler and Cusack are called the strongest, fastest and most skilled Demons when beating her, not the strongest and fastest at night/that point in time.

Sure. Here's the raws. Chandler specifically says 魔力, which is magic power/force. Merlin's explanation of power levels in the Albion Arc has the same kanji.
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Also for kings shield could you put his durability higher with pollen garden
 
ByAsura said:
The only thing I think it would change is the durability of Drole's Heavy Metal, since night-amped Demon Meliodas' God Ripper couldn't do anything to it.

Sure on the Pollen Garden thing.
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What about the other magical attacks from the ten commandments? Also, the demon mark uses magical power(which increases at night) to increase a demon stats ban vs meliodas he used his demon mark to one-shot a hunterfest ban who had almost all his strength + his own.
 
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