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Bleach Abilities Addition (Shinigami/Gotei 13)

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Gotei 13 Abilities Addition.

I was scrolling through the Bleach Profiles and to my surprise a lot of the profiles are either missing a-lot of abilities or some of them are completely bare-bones like Unohana’s Profile which only possesses the basic abilities of being a Soul and Shinigami.

This thread will start the process to remedy that problem in incremental steps starting with the Shinigami Profiles of the Gotei 13.

Note: A-Lot of abilities still are missing within these profiles even after these additions (Physiology stuff/Higher-End Hax’s), but all of those will be addressed in a later thread completely dedicated to those things.

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Sui-Feng:
Gin:



Unohana:
Aizen:











Byakuya:
Shunsui:

Tosen:
Hisagi:

Hitsugaya:



Kenpachi:




Yumichika:

Mayuri:








Nemu:


Ukitake:

Agree: Tyri456 (Disagree's with Grav Manip), AppleLord, Loyd (Disagree's with Grav Manip), Duedate8898 (Agrees with some), AnonymousBlank, LordGriffin1000

Disagree: Duedate8898 (Disagrees with some).

Neutral: AnonymousBlank (with Byakuya's Telekinesis)
 
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I think people will disagree on the Unohana’s stuff. Everything else looks solid.
Don't really see how anyone would disagree with the Unohana stuff, its pretty blatant given what Kenpachi states and what is shown.

You would have to through way too many assumptions to somehow debunk that comparative to what i'm asserting.
 
There is a thing that should be changed, when Aizen lifts the rocks, that is telekinesis.

And what he did to grimmjow is not gravity manipulation, but fear and paralysis hax due to reiastu crush.
Isn't telekinesis just a subset of Gravity Manipulation?

Paralysis Inducement nor Fear Manipulation wouldn't make Grimmjow kneel but Gravity Manipulation would. Similar on how Fear/Paralysis didn't make Ichigo kneel in his fight against Kenpachi.

Here was something small for Oetsu binding ichigo via unknown kido
That will be addressed in the Royal Guard abilities addition thread but thanks anyway.
 
Every reiatsu user should have conventional resistance to illusion due to reikaku
Reikaku will be addressed in the thread regarding Bleach characters physiology. This thread is just specifically for the Gotei 13.

Note: A-Lot of abilities still are missing within these profiles even after these additions (Physiology stuff/Higher-End Hax’s), but all of those will be addressed in a later thread completely dedicated to those things.
 
i don't think this is gravity manip, more like the spiritual pressure/psychological effects, was it further elaborated on how he killed Tosen other then it was a mercy killing? i'd probably give the boulder lift telekinesis too tbh
I don't think that really points to what Aizen did to Grimmjow, i think it makes more sense for it to be Gravity Manipulation given the fact that Aizen's Aura made Grimmjow kneel and restricted his ability to breath which is more indicative to Gravity Manipulation rather then Fear/Paralysis Manipulation.

Yeah Aizen just look at Tosen and made him explode which again points to Gravity Manipulation.

Alright i'll change that then.
 
I don't think that really points to what Aizen did to Grimmjow, i think it makes more sense for it to be Gravity Manipulation given the fact that Aizen's Aura made Grimmjow kneel and restricted his ability to breath which is more indicative to Gravity Manipulation rather then Fear/Paralysis Manipulation.
spiritual pressure in bleach is often protrayed as temporary fear/severe physiological/mental exhuastion against weaker souls which usually or cause the opponents to sweat or stumble/drop iirc ichigo felt this when he was in kenpachi reiatsu proximity and would you give gin gravity manip? hes spiritual pressure flex made ichigos friends crumble/drop aswell i think the current aura hax is fine enough.
 
spiritual pressure in bleach is often protrayed as temporary fear/severe physiological/mental exhuastion against weaker souls which usually or cause the opponents to sweat or stumble/drop iirc ichigo felt this when he was in kenpachi reiatsu proximity and would you give gin gravity manip? hes spiritual pressure flex made ichigos friends crumble/drop aswell i think the current aura hax is fine enough.
Just because it's often portrayed doesn't mean it is in this situation given the feats i laid out, Ichigo didn't drop against Kenpachi he did feel fear and exhaustion but never dropped. Yes and also because he would scale to characters that would have it. Reiatsu Hax's aren't just Fear/Paralysis their is a plethora of more hax's they have which is something i'm going to address in a later thread regarding Reiatsu Hax's and scaling.

Well i don't because i believe it's missing a tone of abilities Bleach Characters have.
 
Its already established what Reiatsu crush can do and logically following people can be dropped by its physiological hax, don't feel the need to add something thats never mentioned but im interested in the upcoming reiatsu hax and scaling thread
 
Its already established what Reiatsu crush can do and logically following people can be dropped by its physiological hax, don't feel the need to add something thats never mentioned but im interested in the upcoming reiatsu hax and scaling thread
Something doesn't have to be mention directly, it can be implied or directly shown which I've shown with my scans and you haven't debunked that, All have you said is "this thing is often portrayed this way so in this situation it's must be this way" which is a nebulous statement since it doesn't really debunk what i'm claiming.

That thread is gonna be chaotic as **** when i make it. Also do you agree with everything else?
 
you're about to give gravity manip to every captain above whos used RC to drop someone..
it can be implied or directly shown which I've shown with my scans and you haven't debunked that,
it already has a method, you need to show me its gravity manip when it can operate under the prior examples of it being used. mental hax which again does drop people.
this thing is often portrayed this way so in this situation it's must be this way
the ability RC is mostly protrayed that way so its likely done thru that method.

give me a sec to check the rest
 
Isn't telekinesis just a subset of Gravity Manipulation?

Paralysis Inducement nor Fear Manipulation wouldn't make Grimmjow kneel but Gravity Manipulation would. Similar on how Fear/Paralysis didn't make Ichigo kneel in his fight against Kenpachi.


That will be addressed in the Royal Guard abilities addition thread but thanks anyway.
I mean my argument didn’t really changed, gravity manipulation doesn’t really make that much sense.
reiastu always had fear and paralysis hax, which would also make grimmjow kneel and don’t move
kenpachi also did a similar thing with Ichigo
 
you're about to give gravity manip to every captain above whos used RC to drop someone..

it already has a method, you need to show me its gravity manip when it can operate under the prior examples of it being used. mental hax which again does drop people.

the ability RC is mostly protrayed that way so its likely done thru that method.

give me a sec to check the rest
Yes and? that doesn't debunk anything i have said. that's an argument from absurdity.

I already did with Grimmjow and especially the Tosen example. you can't explode people with Fear/Paralysis hax but you can with Gravity. You entire argument regarding this point is just Occam Razor which doesn't really work for you here since i think the same way about my point and i provided evidence for my assertions, you haven't.

Yes and that would be the case without any contradicting evidence. Guess what i have. Contradictory evidence.

Alright.
 
You entire argument regarding this point is just Occam Razor which doesn't really work for you here since i think the same way about my point and i provided evidence for my assertions, you haven't.
i asked before but is it further elaborated in the novels beyond the mecry killing aizen says?
Yes and that would be the case without any contradicting evidence. Guess what i have. Contradictory evidence.
its not contradicting reiatsu crush hax does everything prior to what aizen did to grimmjow im infering the most likely case, you're the one adding in gravity manip.
 
neutral blood manip is fine im not sure about the corrosion inducement tho the manga doesn't make it clear if he actually melted away seems like his awakening his battle sensation

6 seems to few for danmaku


i think this would be Limited

this would be under his aura you can add the illusion, pain manip justification ig

i agree with the rest nice.
Kenpachi literally states that he is melting away and it is shown to use as the reader he is actually melting away. don't see how it can be assumed another way. What do you mean by battle sensation?

I believe it's directly stated to Ultrafragor creates 12 Fragors not 6 but even if it was 6 Danmaku doesn't state a needed amount to apply the ability. just that someone can shoot out multiple attacks at once which Aizen can.

Agree.

It will.

Alright thanks.
 
Hold up. Where does it say that Aizen exploded Tosen with soul crush?
Read chapter 387-Pages 24 and 25. its directly implied he did it with soul crush since that's the only ability within his arsenal that would apply that effect onto someone.

And before you ask we know that it was Aizen that killed him because of the CFYOW novels.
 
i asked before but is it further elaborated in the novels beyond the mecry killing aizen says?
It doesn't need to be elaborated on in the Novels when we have direct evidence from the Manga. like you still haven't address the Tosen point that if Aizen only had Fear/Paralysis hax's with his Reiatsu how in the hell did he insta-gibbed him within something that is most likely Reiatsu.

its not contradicting reiatsu crush hax does everything prior to what aizen did to grimmjow im infering the most likely case, you're the one adding in gravity manip.
No it doesn't Reiatsu hax's always had Gravity Manipulation since the first Renji vs Ichigo. Renji literally describes Ichigo's reiatsu as "heavy" and with further evidence like Tosen's death it points to it being Gravity Manipulation. Yes i am and i'm doing it with evidence whiles you aren't.
 
Read chapter 387-Pages 24 and 25. its directly implied he did it with soul crush since that's the only ability within his arsenal that would apply that effect onto someone.
What? No. When has he ever pasted somebody with his RC before? You can’t just say that it’s the only ability when he hasn’t ever done his to anyone before. You need to prove he did this with soul crush.
And before you ask we know that it was Aizen that killed him because of the CFYOW novels.
Everyone knows Aizen did it from just the manga.
 
Kenpachi literally states that he is melting away and it is shown to use as the reader he is actually melting away. don't see how it can be assumed another way. What do you mean by battle sensation?
the pages after makes it pretty vague tbh they both melt away and he gets the actual sensation of real battle, cause it feels like the actual has happen before but was only in his dream iirc
 
What? No. When has he ever pasted somebody with his RC before? You can’t just say that it’s the only ability when he hasn’t ever done his to anyone before. You need to prove he did this with soul crush.

Everyone knows Aizen did it from just the manga.
He doesn't have to have done it previously for us as the viewers to know that he can given the statements and feats we have regarding Reiatsu. He literally has just not on that level of pressure like he did the same thing against Gimmjow but he didin't do it to the point of killing him. What other ability within his arsenal is the most similar to Gravity Manipulation? it's his Reiatsu. Also he did the same thing to Tatsuki as well.

Just making sure because some people have used that argument against me before.
 
He doesn't have to have done it previously for us as the viewers to know that he can given the statements and feats we have regarding Reiatsu. He literally has just not on that level of pressure like he did the same thing against Gimmjow but he didin't do it to the point of killing him. What other ability within his arsenal is the most similar to Gravity Manipulation? it's his Reiatsu. Also he did the same thing to Tatsuki as well.

Just making sure because some people have used that argument against me before.
Grimmjow wasn’t exploded and neither was Tatsuki. No one has exploded people with reiatsu crush so the burden of proof is on you to prove that he killed Tosen with his reiatsu crush. We know that people getting hit by reiatsu crush have issues breathing, dizziness, the inability to move etc etc. hence why they collapse to the ground. All you’ve done is assert that RC has gravity manip and that Aizen used it to blow up Tosen when it’s never stated or shown that RC has that ability nor that Aizen killed Tosen with RC.
 
Sui-Feng: Looks good

Gin: Damage Boost needs a scan, everything else is good

Unohana: I think those are fine, but I do know there is some contention around her Bankai so other's input would be appreciated

Aizen: No on Vibration Manipulation and iffy on Air Manipulation, we don't normally award powers just because a character creates a shockwave with their attacks from what I remember, that's considered more a result of AP than anything else. Unsure about Existence Erasure, since I remember there being an explanation about what exactly happens when someone's spiritual pressure too immense and it didn't involve actually erasing people more just burning them away or something like that. No to Passive Gravity Manipulation, that's just an overwhelming aura with no mentions of gravity or anything of that nature. Passive Telekinesis also iffy, not only is this an effect only witnessed once but that seems like it just falls under his aura with nothing else to it. Power Bestowal would also be a no, since Aizen himself doesn't seem capable of giving any powers, that's just his Reactive Evolution. Danmaku is also a no due to not enough projectiles. Everything else for Aizen is fine.

Byakuya: Either limited telekinesis or a flat no since he can only manipulate his shikai and bankai with his mind (really need to get that power for weapon manipulation already). Everything else is good.
Shinsui: Passive Temperature Manipulation is a no, that's just how his aura feels not a tangible effect by the description. Everything else is good.

Tosen: I'm going to say no for that as well, being blind just keeps him from meeting the activation condition for Aizen's Shikai, I don't think that entails someone being unable to manipulate his senses, even his lack of sight. I don't think we normally give this resistance to blind characters as well.

Hisagi: I think that will qualify

Hitsugaya: Weather Manipulation seems fine, though I think it might need some added context. Sealing is a no, encasing an opponent in ice isn't sealing on itts own. Matter Manipulation, I would say no since that's more an application of his freezing than an ability itself but would be fine with it being listed as limited Matter Manipulation. Everything else I think is fine

Kenpachi: The scans seem alright, but not exactly sure about them. I'll say it's fine for now but would really like more input on those.

Yumichika: Everything is good.

Mayuri: I think everything is good,

Nemu: Everything is good.

Ukitake: Everything is good
 
Should Rukia get limited Matter Manipulation? After her training in the Royal Palace, Shikai Rukia can "kill" her soul body by manipulating the reishi her body is made off. Reishi is spiritual matter, not energy.
 
the pages after makes it pretty vague tbh they both melt away and he gets the actual sensation of real battle, cause it feels like the actual has happen before but was only in his dream iirc
from what i remember unohana was basically using her healing to regen the both of them, i mean she brought kenpachi back from the dead multiple times and she is stated to basically be the best of the best when it comes to healing
 
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