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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Is Doctor Strange the Sorcerer Supreme in the MCU?
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Hasn't officially been granted the title as far as we know yet.
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Oh, ok. I just wanted to confirm because this page says he is the Sorcerer Supreme
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Well damn, I never noticed that. Well outside of that page I haven't found any official media recognizing him as such yet. He hasn't been stated to be the SS in the movies yet, but hopefully he will in No Way Home or Multiverse of Madness. The last title he was recognized as in the movies was the protector of the time stone and the master of the New York Sanctum.
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True. Then again Strange Supreme became Sorcerer Supreme after defeating Dormammu, and the events at thetime played out rather similar to the main timeline.
Btw, shouldn't Strange Supreme be labelled Sorcerer Supreme under Classification?
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Oh was he?
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Added.
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Also were we gonna make a 2-c profile for the watcher or hold of on it for more feats?
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Probably hold off on it as he'll probably do more by the end of What If
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How would Gamora get the Double-Edged Sword and armour?
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Judging by the responses this "What it...?" was the one that had the least amount of hype behind it, hopefully it'll surprise us.
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Maybe, we’ll have to see
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He already had justifications and calc's for why he's his tier
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I know, I just want to know if I can add this if the page ever gets unlocked next time :I
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lol that's fair definitely keep that scan around though
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Thor in the movie said that the lightning bolt didn't phase her. I don't know why we would take a script over the actual movie when they contradict.
As for What If I'd guess it'll end with like, Final Wars Ultron vs some weird composite Avengers gathered by Spider-Strange or Dark Strange.
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Thor's statement could have meant it didn't do anything permanent to her. She does have rather high regeneration and in the time between when she was struck and when they saw her again, she could have regenerated fully. Thor could have also been exaggerating when he meant "it did nothing". Idk
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Movies > Everything else. They're the prime canon and main source of the MCU. Scripts and such will always be lesser canon if there's a contradiction present.
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I'm sure getting blasted off onto the ground isn't considered doing nothing. It sounded like Thor was exaggerating to me, but I could be wrong
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It did no damage and she just walked back to them with a swagger. The most it did was send he away from Thor. Considering we see he more or less no sell another one of his direct lightning blasts that punches her through the rainbow bridge with no facial reaction I doubt the big bolt fared that much better.
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Again, Hela's regeneration could have simply allowed her to regenerate before that. There was over 2 on-screen minutes between when Hela landed on the ground to when Hela walks to them. No facial reaction is definitely not true (Thor also seemed to have shown more strain for the first blast than the second)
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There's no evidence of that and it contradicts the point that she's massively above Thor. Its at best a semi-canon piece of supporting evidence.
She's looking shocked because Surter was just summoned. Go back a handful of seconds and her face has the same expression more or less.
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Doesn't really seem like she's massively above Thor in some of these scenes. Fair enough about it
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Hela is definitely massively above thor he himself considers her so and thinks there's nothing he can do to harm her or keep her back for long without being overpowered
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I've looked at their fight scene. I definitely agree that Hela is above Thor, but I don't see the part where he "thinks there's nothing he can do to harm her or keep her back for long without being overpowered". He was still able to contend with her briefly at some parts. Not being able to keep her back for long seems to attribute more towards Hela growing more and more powerful overtime
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He literally admits himself that he can't beat her tho...
She also destroyed Mjonir something he himself thought impossible and only grew stronger since then and while thor did awaken in their fight becoming stronger it's not long after they defeat the undead goons that Thor states that the blast literally did nothing he has no reason to lie or exaggerate there and as Qawsedf stated too she literally walks up with swagger no concern or worry on her face she's casual even when he and Valkyrie go in to fight her
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That just means Hela is above Thor. Not Hela massively above Thor. And even then his attacks clearly had some effect on her
That was Base Thor. Awakened Thor wouldn't exactly know what happened to Hela after the lightning blast. His statement that it did nothing is based on Hela appearing fine when they see each other again some time later, which should be enough time for her to regenerate any injuries
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I bloody loved Shang-Chi, amazing film! Fighting was amazing, choreography was great, and the CGI was definitely on point for sure. One of the best origin movies for sure 
First and foremost I was not expecting ya man Ben Kingsley coming back as Trevor, that was a great surprise and have to give credit to his performance which was amazing (No idea how they managed to keep that a secret). I like Abomination's new mutated appearance, looking like his comic counterpart more. The CGI fight between the soul sucker and the Dragon was amazing which gives me hope on future projects that are going to need a lot of CGI to make everything believable and beautiful. When Shang-Chi got the rings himself definitely got some Sonic vibes
. As for the first post credit scene, is nobody going to talk about how Bruce is now not Professor Hulk all of a sudden? That seems strange.... I am curious to know where the "signal emanating from the rings" is about, is there any comic explanations? We we're definitely right about Wong being the new Coulson, he's so cool, funny and lovable as a character. Only disappoint is that he wasn't singing a Beyoncé song when they're in the karaoke booth
First and foremost I was not expecting ya man Ben Kingsley coming back as Trevor, that was a great surprise and have to give credit to his performance which was amazing (No idea how they managed to keep that a secret). I like Abomination's new mutated appearance, looking like his comic counterpart more. The CGI fight between the soul sucker and the Dragon was amazing which gives me hope on future projects that are going to need a lot of CGI to make everything believable and beautiful. When Shang-Chi got the rings himself definitely got some Sonic vibes
. As for the first post credit scene, is nobody going to talk about how Bruce is now not Professor Hulk all of a sudden? That seems strange.... I am curious to know where the "signal emanating from the rings" is about, is there any comic explanations? We we're definitely right about Wong being the new Coulson, he's so cool, funny and lovable as a character. Only disappoint is that he wasn't singing a Beyoncé song when they're in the karaoke booth 
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O yeah btw for when the watcher will get an profile
www.marvel.com
Acasuallity type 4 ig? And precog
Uatu the Watcher | Characters | Marvel
The official Marvel page for Uatu the Watcher. Learn all about Uatu the Watcher both on screen and in comics!
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Ah yeah that feat
Is most likely refering to that
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Also found a PNG for it
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I have a question about Iron Man's technological manipulation in his 3rd key, how exactly does it work? Just wanna know for a vs thread I'm hosting.
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