- 4,273
- 2,796
Sure, but it math is a vague term, and doesn't specify how high it goes, except the inaccessible cardinals. It isn't mentioned, and therefore cannot be included.
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
STRONGEST VERSES IN FICTION?
- Thread starter Catzlaflame
- Start date
- 7,952
- 3,834
1. why the math is vague and just because is vague doesnt mean it can incluid higher terms
2. just because it doesnt mention it. doesnt mean is inexistent
- 4,273
- 2,796
1. Oh it can, and it does give clear, hardline aleph and inaccessible cardinal statements.
2. Get the scans mate
- 7,952
- 3,834
i dont need scan because they use it and just because they dont mention it doesnt mean it magically stop existing.
- 4,273
- 2,796
Proof that they exist, are scalable, aren't just tangentely tied to a vague word, and Rucker purposefully mentioned them in his book?
- 7,952
- 3,834
1. you dont need to mention it to exist they just maths and just because they dont mention it doesnt mean it doesnt exist
2. If they use this then there is no reason to believe that reinhardt cardinal doesnt exist
- 4,273
- 2,796
1. You are currently arguing from a standpoint which has no factual evidence, except a vague word that may or may not even include what you say. No, I refuse to further this discussion unless you bring up something new.
2. Linking to a wikipedia page about Large-Cardinals as your scan completely destroys any hope for your point. I will not argue anymore.
- 7,952
- 3,834
1. How is that vague? is a term that the series uses as you sayed and that incluids reinhardt cardinal that is like saying "destroying all the life in earth" and just putting humans because "you didnt specify"
2. Yeah no this is getting us nowhere
Udlmaster
They/Them- 6,875
- 2,067
Interestingly enough, according to Ultima, WoD has risen to the top of the list of the strongest profiles on the wiki, and might get stronger too very very soon.So what exactly is the order for the strongest verses on the site, would it look something like this?
1: Twin peaks
2: cthulhu mythos
3: Umineko and the rest of 07th expansion
4: elder scrolls
5: DC comics
6: The Unwritten
7: Demon king diamao
8: world of darkness maybe?
9: idk
10: idk
- 1,702
- 2,706
- Thread starter
- #331
Seriously? wow, good job you basically revised the whole verse by yourself that’s very impressive
Last edited:
- 4,003
- 1,673
wait, how many layers above baseline tier 0 are they
Udlmaster
They/Them- 6,875
- 2,067
Currently, at least 2, this might go... a bit higher soon.
- 4,003
- 1,673
so atleast 3 layers?
Udlmaster
They/Them- 6,875
- 2,067
In future? Lol, definitely not that low.
- 4,003
- 1,673
no, how many layers are they above baseline tier 0
- 7,952
- 3,834
Udlmaster
They/Them- 6,875
- 2,067
I know what you meant.
I'm just saying, if everything goes as Planned, they won't be just 3 levels into 0.
- 4,003
- 1,673
really? How many levels then? Absolute infinite or shit like that?
- 153
- 120
It's beyond me why you're so obsessed over this set theory.
Abu2411
He/Him- 1,369
- 632
I just feel that people are going to worship maths as the be all end all when it comes to tiering high tier characters. There are many different ways to tier characters and this wiki has settled on mathematical tiering, which is fine it's just that this method isn't the only method.
- 5,312
- 3,223
we represent their power in math
that's different, u can literally represent anything with math, what's the issue?
Abu2411
He/Him- 1,369
- 632
The issue is that people won't realise that powerscaling is subjective and using maths is just one way to Tier characters. It doesn't matter if maths can represent everything if there are characters which transcend maths. Logically this isn't possible, but we are dealing with beings who don't subscribe to our logic, that's what transduality is.
- 5,312
- 3,223
we use math to represent out subjective views
so
- 5,312
- 3,223
I'm being honest, our system makes the most sense, other systems rely on metaphysical omnipotence bullshit
Abu2411
He/Him- 1,369
- 632
Even though I agree with you, that's still a subjective opinion.
I think a part of it has to do with the fact this site is really popular which drags in many more people as well as the fact that we actually have a system in the first place.
Sites like reddit whowouldwin aren't good imo because like each user there has a different standard/system they use. They're inconsistent.
- 5,312
- 3,223
i mean, we know it's subjective, no one said our system is 100% true, at least i never saw someone says it
- 5,312
- 3,223
how? this wiki has digimon at the lowest level i have seen yet i never complained, because you know what? unlike most people, I'm not biased, I'm fine with my favorite verse being tier 11, as long as it's consistent
i have seen 1A and even tier 0 digimon scales and i laugh at them, not tryna defend the wiki with my life or something, but it makes the most sense to me
name a forum with a better system so i can change my mind
- 5,312
- 3,223
oh, my bad
Udlmaster
They/Them- 6,875
- 2,067
Eradicate everything above 2-A
