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The at least 2x was me agreeing to nard geer my bad for not making that clear.
That is disappointing to hear. Enhanced emotions natsu seems to scale massively above his lfdm form. Is there no way to determine a multiplier for the form
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That is disappointing to hear. Enhanced emotions natsu seems to scale massively above his lfdm form. Is there no way to determine a multiplier for the form
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Nope, Dual Element Modes are Person A's+Person B's Power
But the second usage is always far weaker and has no given amp
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That sucks to hear. Could have possibly upgraded base mard geer and enhanced emotions natsu.
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Bottom line is that Mard Geer's "at least 2x" thing is just from a case of 1 + 1, essentially. It's not actually a true multiplier, unlike Dragon Force, which is why Etherious Forms won't be given a multiplier.
Also, read some past comments and once again, Bloodman is not going to be scaling to 6-C in any capacity. Base Gajeel fought and matched normal Bloodman and he survived numerous hits from Third Seal Bloodman. Base Bloodman is Large Mountain level+ and Third Seal Bloodman is higher than that to an unknown degree.
Also, read some past comments and once again, Bloodman is not going to be scaling to 6-C in any capacity. Base Gajeel fought and matched normal Bloodman and he survived numerous hits from Third Seal Bloodman. Base Bloodman is Large Mountain level+ and Third Seal Bloodman is higher than that to an unknown degree.
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I don't have anything to add to mard geer thing. At least 2x is fine and he is also the only one to show a at least 2x increase.
But i disagree with bloodman. Base bloodman is not the one that is being proposed to be 6-C but 3rd seal is. 3rd seal completely overwhelmed gajeel is a one sided fight. Overpowered gajeel iron scales with ease with a single thorn. Gajeel only survived because he managed to escape over skelter. And required an enraged df gajeel to fight him. And took no damage from gajeel first attack in df. 3rd seal has feats to not just be higher but in a seperate tier. He should be 6-C
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Ok, so now I agree that the Etherious form is NOT a multiplier. But what about Bloodman stomping Sabertooth? There were 3 High 7-A+ level fighters (Rogue, Sting, and Minerva), and it's heavily implied Bloodman stomped them all. This puts Base Bloodman at "At Least High 7-A+", and would fit well with a 6-C 3rd Seal Bloodman.
Speaking of, I support that Bloodman's 3rd Seal is a 6-C due to him easily piercing Iron Body Gajeel, which is a 2-3 times multiplier of durability. Not to mention, aside from Gajeel's Roar matching Ice Demon Rage, Bloodman was smacking him around most of the fight.
Speaking of, I support that Bloodman's 3rd Seal is a 6-C due to him easily piercing Iron Body Gajeel, which is a 2-3 times multiplier of durability. Not to mention, aside from Gajeel's Roar matching Ice Demon Rage, Bloodman was smacking him around most of the fight.
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He didn't stomp them by himself at all
He alongside Larcade, Irene, and a shit ton of Alvarez Soldiers did it
Not to mention that the First Seal negs durability anyways
Stop wanking Bloodman
He alongside Larcade, Irene, and a shit ton of Alvarez Soldiers did it
Not to mention that the First Seal negs durability anyways
Stop wanking Bloodman
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lol same
@DemonGodMitchAubin ,
To quote @Zackra1799 ,
"We know that Sabertooth got stomped by Bloodman alone given Irene wasn't even on the battlefield yet and was preparing for Acno, and neither sting or rogue ever interacted with Larcade before."
If Larcade had been involved, Sting would have recognized him when he fought him later, but he didn't.
Also, as I mentioned before, Sabertooth was wrecking the Alvarez soldiers until Bloodman came.
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Simple, Sting may have not been the one to face Larcade, while Orga or Rufus, or any of the other fodder could have been taken out by Larcade, not to mention that once again, Bloodman negged everyone around purely based on the First Seal
Bloodman did not solo Sabertooth in Base, GTFO with that
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1. There is still next to no evidence that Larcade and Irene were involved in Sabertooth's defeat. So no, I will no GTFO with that.
2. While it is not impossible for Bloodman to have used the Bane Particles, the fact that Sabertooth's members survived Bloodman and were still able to fight afterwards makes this debateable. I'm fairly certain that had Bloodman used Bane Particles, it would have likely killed a lot of Sabertooth's members.
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Im completely neutral on the bloodman vs saber thing. But judging from larcade actions before him vs sting he most likely attacked from a distance. Like when he saved dimaria or when he was about to fight kagura. He seems to attack all his enemies at the same time from a distance before he enters a 1v1. And sting said they had 3 monsters on their side. So he atleast sense their magical power. And we know larcade and irene magic is insanely high. Unless he means juliet and heine.
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I agree that he sensed their magic power, but not that he fought them.
Although I seriously doubt Juliet and Heine were the monsters mentioned, each of them is only as strong as Jacob Lessio (since the 2 of them together beat a base Satan Soul Mirajane, who beat Jacob Lessio).
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I was joking about julliet abd heine.
From what we know about the spriggans larcade does not fight straight up unless confronted. He saved dimaria from fodder from attacking from a distance and attacked fairy tail and the other guilds from a distance. Its not in character for him to enter the battle at all. And irene was probably setting up for acno
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Well I’ve given my opinion, only thing to do now is wait for more staff
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Trust me when I say, the staff are gonna disagree just cuz Mitch does and cuz they read the arguments but mostly cuz Mitch.
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Why would Rogue say they had three monsters on their side if Sabertooth didn’t face all of Bloodman, Irene, and Larcade?
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Larcade definitely fought them. Just in character he stays out of the way and uses his pleasure magic to attack and only goes into a 1v1 if forced like kagura and sting.
Doubt irene did anything major.
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Well she definitely did enough for her to be viewed as a monster by Rogue.
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Yeah probably just flex her magic power a little and they almost died due to fear
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Disagree because of DemonGodMitchAubin points and this is his/her fav verse.
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Same, there are actually good arguments on both sides.
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If you guys wanna make Bloodman 6-C, the OP is not how you go about it.
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There has been many different reasons proposed in the thread for 6-C bloodman. Manly him stomping base gajeel. Casually piercing gajeel iron scales which is apparently a 2-3x durability amp. Taking df gajeel attacks and not being taken out or killed by it. And the fact df gajeel first attack landed and did no damage to bloodman.
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Base Gajeel took plenty of attacks from Third Seal Bloodman and kept fighting without issue, he cracked his Iron Scales yes, but it wasn’t casual by any means and it’s not like they shattered to pieces, DF Gajeel beat the hell out of Third Seal Bloodman and his barrage of punches blew him apart, yeah his first punch didn’t kill, but with basic no named attacks, his punches blew a hole and vaped Bloodman
I still don’t agree with 6-C Bloodman
I still don’t agree with 6-C Bloodman
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Gonna point out that cracking the scales doesn't mean you scale since Natsu cracked them in Phantom despite being equal to base Gajeel.
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My thoughts remain the same as well. 6-C Bloodman is a no-go for me.
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I agree with what DemonGodMitchAubin and DragonGamerZ913 are saying.
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But he didn't keep fighting without issue. After he manage to escape over skelter he was grunting and slowly had to check up on levy
He pierced straight through his iron scales with a random thorn casually. He even shown smiling and saying how pointless before piercing through his scales.
And his first punch didn't kill him none of them did. His first punch did zero damage to him. And it took gajeel to non stop punching him. No name attacks don't even matter here. His first punched did no damage and then through the entire time he is in df he is fully enraged.
Bloodman should be 6-C
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There are several things that are wrong here.
- Gajeel did not have his scales up when Bloodman pierced him with thorns.
- This “enraged” stuff is false, DF Gajeel didn’t get an additional power boost after he was beating Bloodman down.
- Gajeel was literally stomping Bloodman. Not only did the final punch tear through him, but each punch during his beatdown was blowing him apart.
- The fact that Gajeel was able to take several hits from Third Seal Bloodman and keep fighting is indicative of the fact that Base Gajeel is weaker than him, but not by as significant of an amount as you’re suggesting.
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I agree with dragon
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1. Fair
2. What do you mean. The entire time he was in df he was enraged. He was enraged before he went into df. Unless you mean amp which is not what im suggesting. Enraged would mean not holding back.
3. And. Never said he didn't but your ignoring the fact gajeel first attack still landed and failed to do damage to bloodman. Bloodman showed each time he is hit whether or not he takes damage his body break apart in someway.
4. Gajeel got completely overwhelmed. Bloodman with each attack severely damaged bloodman. Gajeel only could fight bloodman with df and his first punch does not damage even cause damage. That is a large gap in power and shows gajeel is not even close to him in base.
Bloodman is 6-C easily
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You’re always on about “the first punch” but then ignore literally every punch after that, which were all destroying Bloodman’s body. I’d believe multiple body-destroying punches over one that didn’t do so.
Let’s go over what Bloodman hit Gajeel with in Third Seal: Explosive Spiral, Over Skelter, and stabbed him with thorns, and that’s not mentioning Tenchi Kaimei or the fact that his roar matched Gajeel’s (which can be attributed to his magic being worse than his curse power but I digress). Gajeel took all that and was still able to keep fighting, which wouldn’t be possible if the gap between them was as big as you’re suggesting. And we know that Gajeel has always had AP comparable to his durability, meaning that while he is weaker than Bloodman, it’s not so much that Bloodman should be 6-C.
Neither backscaling from DF or upscaling from Base Gajeel would work here.
Let’s go over what Bloodman hit Gajeel with in Third Seal: Explosive Spiral, Over Skelter, and stabbed him with thorns, and that’s not mentioning Tenchi Kaimei or the fact that his roar matched Gajeel’s (which can be attributed to his magic being worse than his curse power but I digress). Gajeel took all that and was still able to keep fighting, which wouldn’t be possible if the gap between them was as big as you’re suggesting. And we know that Gajeel has always had AP comparable to his durability, meaning that while he is weaker than Bloodman, it’s not so much that Bloodman should be 6-C.
Neither backscaling from DF or upscaling from Base Gajeel would work here.
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