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In trying to make a thread involving him, I was informed that Tanktop Master scales to Genos' Jet Drive Arrow (1.22 Megatons of TNT - Small City Level), and that Jet Drive Arrow scales to Genos' physicals. I disagreed with that, got told to make a CRT, and here I am.
I don't think that Tanktop Master should scale to Genos' Jet Drive Arrow, or Spiral Incineration Cannon if TTM is decided to scale to that too.
After taking and deflecting physical blows from Genos, Garou compared Genos to Tanktop Master, specifically saying that his "strength rivals Tanktop Master". Garou was implying this about Genos' striking strength, and then went on to speak about his heat cannon separately right after, acknowledging it as a separate threat from his physical strength.
Jet Drive Arrow doesn't rely on the heat cannon, but it does rely on extremely heavily powered boosters compared to the punches that Genos throws with rocket boosted arms at Garou.
Garou also didn't see Jet Drive Arrow or Spiral Incineration Cannon before he made that statement.
For the same reasons, Jet Drive Arrow should not set the bar for Post-Superfight Genos' physicals as a whole, its power should represent only the power of that move, or Genos' maximum physical capability.
The statement made by Garou doesn't set a standard for Tanktop Master to compare to Genos, it's the opposite. The time the statement was made was the first time seeing Genos' Post-Superfight upgrade, and its power was not yet proven through any major feats. Tanktop Master had already fought Garou, and his power had already been showcased, the statement should be used to set a baseline for Post-Superfight Genos' physical strength, as what Tanktop Master has been known to be capable of. This does however inform us that Tanktop Master is superior to Post-G4 Genos, which is better than anything he has actually showcased himself in series.
Post-G4 Genos defeated Hydrated Deep Sea King with just one rush of Machinegun Blows and a simple blast of his cannon. Post-Superfight Genos is supposed to be stronger than his previous upgrade and comparable to Tanktop Master in physical strength.
So Tanktop Master is vastly superior to Hydrated Sea King's High 7-C Tier, but that raises a problem, because that should probably keep Tanktop Master at Low 7-B, if not higher.
Then, why is Deep Sea King High 7-C? The blast which Deep Sea King tanks from BoS Genos is not the same as the blast which produced the High 7-C (113.9 Kilotons of TNT) feat. Genos used both hands cannons for that feat and the blast had an area of destruction which was massively more wide than what Genos did to Deep Sea King.
Deep Sea King is not an exceptional Demon-level monster, Post-G4 Genos who can easily defeat Deep Sea King continues to struggle with higher Demon-level monsters until his Post-Superfight and Post-Elder Centipede upgrades. Deep Sea King, and in turn Tanktop Master, should have their tiers lowered. Post-Superfight Genos' striking strength should be downgraded to match Tanktop Master's as well.
I'm not sure how qualified I am to actually suggest a new placement, but if I had to say, I'd place Deep Sea King closer to the Giant Crow higher in 8-A, when he is dehydrated, and high 8-A or Low 7-C when he is hydrated. Tanktop Master could get a placement somewhere in 7-C.
I don't think that Tanktop Master should scale to Genos' Jet Drive Arrow, or Spiral Incineration Cannon if TTM is decided to scale to that too.
After taking and deflecting physical blows from Genos, Garou compared Genos to Tanktop Master, specifically saying that his "strength rivals Tanktop Master". Garou was implying this about Genos' striking strength, and then went on to speak about his heat cannon separately right after, acknowledging it as a separate threat from his physical strength.
Jet Drive Arrow doesn't rely on the heat cannon, but it does rely on extremely heavily powered boosters compared to the punches that Genos throws with rocket boosted arms at Garou.
Garou also didn't see Jet Drive Arrow or Spiral Incineration Cannon before he made that statement.
For the same reasons, Jet Drive Arrow should not set the bar for Post-Superfight Genos' physicals as a whole, its power should represent only the power of that move, or Genos' maximum physical capability.
The statement made by Garou doesn't set a standard for Tanktop Master to compare to Genos, it's the opposite. The time the statement was made was the first time seeing Genos' Post-Superfight upgrade, and its power was not yet proven through any major feats. Tanktop Master had already fought Garou, and his power had already been showcased, the statement should be used to set a baseline for Post-Superfight Genos' physical strength, as what Tanktop Master has been known to be capable of. This does however inform us that Tanktop Master is superior to Post-G4 Genos, which is better than anything he has actually showcased himself in series.
Post-G4 Genos defeated Hydrated Deep Sea King with just one rush of Machinegun Blows and a simple blast of his cannon. Post-Superfight Genos is supposed to be stronger than his previous upgrade and comparable to Tanktop Master in physical strength.
So Tanktop Master is vastly superior to Hydrated Sea King's High 7-C Tier, but that raises a problem, because that should probably keep Tanktop Master at Low 7-B, if not higher.
Then, why is Deep Sea King High 7-C? The blast which Deep Sea King tanks from BoS Genos is not the same as the blast which produced the High 7-C (113.9 Kilotons of TNT) feat. Genos used both hands cannons for that feat and the blast had an area of destruction which was massively more wide than what Genos did to Deep Sea King.
Deep Sea King is not an exceptional Demon-level monster, Post-G4 Genos who can easily defeat Deep Sea King continues to struggle with higher Demon-level monsters until his Post-Superfight and Post-Elder Centipede upgrades. Deep Sea King, and in turn Tanktop Master, should have their tiers lowered. Post-Superfight Genos' striking strength should be downgraded to match Tanktop Master's as well.
I'm not sure how qualified I am to actually suggest a new placement, but if I had to say, I'd place Deep Sea King closer to the Giant Crow higher in 8-A, when he is dehydrated, and high 8-A or Low 7-C when he is hydrated. Tanktop Master could get a placement somewhere in 7-C.
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