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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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I got a few new arguments regarding WSK and SK Yhwach message my discord if you want more deets
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Since all souls are on the planet, then why, according to you, did Renji say in the WoTL instead of on Earth?
If WoTL can only refer to the entire realm, it would be completely unnecessary for Renji to use that term when referring to where all souls are located (the planet).
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I swear you didn't read my post at all. I make the very explicit distinction between "World of the Living" and "world". These two terms are not the same. Renji gives the name of the dimension while you are ignoring the rest of the name in favor of a single word at the start of it.
I never said all souls are on the planet, go get the quote of me doing so. And if all souls are on the planet (you have no proof this is the case), it would be unnecessary for him to say anything as well. This point doesn't support your own argument any more than it does mine so I dunno why you are bringing it up as if it changes anything.
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Well yes but my issue at this point is that he is misreading what I am saying even though I typed a paragraph to explain that very thing. Also don't you have weights to lift?
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And you haven't provided a reason for why he would do that when, according to your interpretation of the term WoTL, it would be completely unnecessary.
Where else could they be? Are you saying there are aliens or something? I don't need proof to say all souls in the WoTL realm are on the WoTL planet (Earth). There is literally no life in that realm outside of Earth. If you say there is, you are the one who has to prove it as your claim would contradict what we as readers are aware of.
That's what I am trying to point out to you.
You admitted that if all souls in the WoTL realm are on Earth, then Renji wouln't have to say what he did. So the only way your argument makes sense is if you can prove there are souls outside of Earth in the realm, which, once again, would contradict what we as readers are aware of.
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Because he is talking about how they need to be nerfed when they come to WotL. Its right there in the scan.
Edit: End of the day, Renji did say it. It doesn't matter why he did, just that he did. And because he named the dimension and not the planet, he is referring to the dimension regardless of how pointless doing so may have been.
I don't need to say anything. You claimed they were all on Earth which means you are the one who needs to prove something. Moment you said that, you have to provide evidence, not ask me where else they would be as that would be me proving a negative.
First point. Basic reading comprehension should tell you exactly why he said it.
I didn't admit to shit. Don't strawman me. How tf do you quote me and still not know what the hell I typed?
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I’m home now dad gimme like 15 mins and I’ll dm you the thingy
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Yeah man, Google Translate is one of my favorite vocaloids
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I hate you
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why isnt there a dislike button
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arc7Kuroi/Aizen's_Kurohitsugi finally got around to updating this calc after like a year lol
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Nice
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god i love this
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I already have a rough version written, the only reasons I haven't posted it are;
- There are already ongoing CRT's and planned ones that are pretty major
- Not entirely sure how having multiple souls is treated here and as such, the entire thing might be moot
- Thinking about how toxic the thread will be makes me nauseas and hesitant to post it
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This character has resistance to soul manip for having many souls as apart of his reasoning so i assume it is a resistance,
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Can you give an example of the bruising one?
Also, they'd still scale, just downscale.
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Just curious, what would the result be if you used the scan of Renji Running away with Rukia and Ichigo’s height when he’s standing on the stand?
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Prolly not too different, you got the scan?
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I know that chapter but I don’t have the scan, it’s chapter 151 or 152 I believe
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If it’s accepted how would fragor and ultra fragor scale?
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Well.. yeah lol sorry should’ve been more specific. We know fragor is far stronger than his hado 90 based on what each did to Ichigo respectively. Would ultra fragor get a multiplier since it’s composed of 12 of them? Or is it 6? The manga has both the mouths and eyes creating one each but I think a data book said it’s 6 times a normal one?
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So true lmaoimpossible!! how could he stop the power of One Million Zanpakuto using a single Zanpakuto
ahh takes me back to the good old days when bankai ichigo was a badass only to get humbled by grimmjow
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If it's 12 then its borderline moon level
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Irrelevant point. Renji was also talking about how they need to prevent excessive influence on the souls in the WoTL.
It does matter why he did. You can't just disregard the statement because disregarding its implication fits your unproven interpretation that the term WoTL could only refer to the entire realm.
This is unproven and you're just assuming your interpretation to be correct when the evidence doesn't necessarily point in that direction.
Do you even know what empiricism is? Go look it up and you'll see why the burden of proof is actually on you here.
My claim about all souls being on Earth doesn't need to be proven as it is what we as readers of Bleach are aware of and there is nothing in the series which suggests there are aliens in the Earth realm. My evidence is the series itself and what we are shown in the manga. Because my claim is consistent with what we know while yours is essentially claiming headcanon (that there could be other souls in the realm which aren't on Earth) and then saying yOu CaN't PrOvE oThErWiSe, the burden of proof is on you, the one who's claiming things contradictory to the narrative without providing any evidence.
should tell you exactly what my interpretation of his statement is
There, fixed it for you.
You admitted that if the term WoTL can only refer to the entire realms and if all souls in the realm are on Earth, then Renji wouldn't need to say what he did. This is the quote which I am referring to:
^ You admitting it ^
So now you're in this position where unless you can prove there are aliens in the Earth realm (as the burden of proof is on you as the one implying things contradictory to the narrative and our knowledge as readers), you've essentially conceded that Renji having to use the term WoTL was completely unnecessary in that instance, which points to your interpretation (that the term WoTL can only refer to the entire realms) not being correct.
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