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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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The realm SS is contained in is possibly universal but the actual society and the souls that make it up live on a planet.
Thinking that Yama can destroy not just the SS planet but the whole realm is headcanon.
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Its not a headcanon, it's debatable imo, and frankly if we want to go by what the Manga said, it said SS which is the whole dimension, interpreting it as planet without a proof is the headcanon.
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The term "Soul Society" doesn't mean exclusively the dimension itself.
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literally has nothing to do with my point, I just said that planetary or uni it depends on what do u think is SS, if u think it means only the planet there go for that but dont say that saying the whole dimension is a headcanon. So its debatable
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Apparently he killed his father (Soul King) to his his suffering because he didn't want to keep him like that.
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It was stated in a databook that the Soul Society is a parallel world to Earth. So the souls live on a planet. It is contained in a dimension/realm which could have been called "Soul Society" somewhere, but the term doesn't necessarily have to refer to the whole realm which the occupied planet is in.
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Idk which statement are u talking about but, its stated that the SS is a parallel world to the WoTL, not to earth. If u are talking about a different statement send it
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That's the exact statement I was referring to. But it seems that, for whatever reason, you think WoTL automatically means the entire realm Earth is a part of instead of just the planet. Even though the term has been used to refer to only the planet.
Spirits only exist on Earth and in the SS and HM. So Renji was only referring to planet Earth, not the entire realm, when he said WoTL.
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Attack on Bison
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Probably something like the Beast Realm?
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Soul society and world of the living are also used for the realms they are in., Especially in can't fear your own world
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But when has it ever referred to a planet? Even the scan linked above doesn’t refer to a planet as it is talking about souls in WotL being affected by reiatsu. In not on. If WotL is a planet, everyone must have failed grammar because they aren’t using the correct words.
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the main time would be memories of nobody
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We don't have to say in before a term referring to a planet lol
The reason why in the example they can say in when saying WoTL while still referring to the planet is because WoTL and Earth/the planet are two different terms referring to the same thing (at least in the example). Saying in the planet would sound dumb, but Renji said in the World of the Living. He said in because it was gramatically correct to put it before the term he was using to refer to the planet.
In real life, we can say in the world and be referring to planet Earth, not the entire universe.
For example, if we say someone is the best sports player in the world, we mean that they're the best on the planet, not talking about the entire universe.
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The only time the realms have been referred to as planets is when Toshiro hinted they were planets in MoN, every other time is either non-specified, or CFYOW saying they aren't planets.
Also, for those curious I calc'd the Uryu shadow feat and it turns out to 0.512c or Rel+.
Also, for those curious I calc'd the Uryu shadow feat and it turns out to 0.512c or Rel+.
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Some other peeps on discord got it to 4x FTL.
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At minimum it's rel+, I posted the calc in a blog here if you wanna use it/view it.
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with an arbitrary calculation I found 5.2c
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I've seen a few FTL calcs that all use the distance from Orihime to the shadow.
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If you use this distance the feat would probably end up being x2 FTL or something like this. But since we don't know for sure if light didn't erase Uryu's shadow before he got to Orihime (similarly to Aaroniero's feat), it is safer to use the distance given in the scan where we see the shadow itself.
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honestly I think this one is more like "If the soul society and WoTL could be likened to planets" Toshiro was explaining to Ichigo because he is so stupid to understand what Kisuke said iirc
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That quite literally your own interpretation that isn’t supported by canon in anyway. The WotL has only ever explicitly referred to the dimension, never the planet.
We can. Key word is can. You are the one who needs to prove it does refer to the planet.
Same as above. X is the best player of Y in the world =/= X is the best player of Y on the planet/Earth. Both can simultaneously be true but they are not the same and you would need to prove world = planet.
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As I said,
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It is supported by Renji talking about the spirits in the world of the living, which only refers to the planet as that's where all the spirits are.
Your entire argument is "He said in the world instead of on the world therefore it's not talking about a planet" which doesn't even mean anything.
So you admit that Renji didn't need to say on the world but in the world is also applicable when referring to a planet.
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I'm not claiming that the terms WoTL or SS always refer to a planet every single time they are used and can't refer to the entire realm.
It really depends on context. For example, Yama's Bankai is stated to evaporate all moisture in the SS, which obviously only refers to the planet in that specific instance.
It really depends on context. For example, Yama's Bankai is stated to evaporate all moisture in the SS, which obviously only refers to the planet in that specific instance.
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unless u think a single sun can destroy a universe, is gonna be a no.
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oof just realized I posted on the wrong Forum.
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No, no it does not. This is once again the same as “in the world =/= on the planet”. All the souls in the dimension can be on the planet but that doesn’t mean world refers to the planet.
Not even close to my argument. My argument is that WotL has only been used to refer to the dimension and not the planet. The planet is earth, the dimension is WotL. You are the one trying to equate the two and are the one with a burden of proof to prove as much. My point on Renji’s words was that (even if we accept your stance that WotL is also the name of the planet, it isn’t) he doesn’t refer to the planet as he would essentially be saying “in the world of the Martians” which makes no sense when it would be “on the world of the Martians”. For whatever reason, you keep electing to ignore the fact that he doesn’t say “world” but “World of the Living”. You can’t cherrypick a part of the name when it is a collective.
No I don’t. I said “in the world” can refer to on the planet but you need to prove it does. For your stance to be true using that scan (as it’s the only one that has been presented), you do actually need him to say “on the World of the Living” as that would mean it refers to a planet since being on a dimension (implying they are outside of it) makes no sense when they are clearly inside it. As it stands, he said “in the World of the Living” and WotL is the name of the dimension they currently reside in whereas the planet they are on is Earth.
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