Iirc Zoro downscales and she upscales quite a bit, plus she has speed amps.
Isn't that sorta mitigated by Erza 5x strength and dura advantage?
Not when Zoro only uses Dura Neg attacks.
Massively, has a bunch of ridiculous swordsmen ship feats, crazy good Acrobatics and skill based Prediction and Information Analysis amongst another layer of precog from Haki.
Then I'll vote for Zoro due to skill and dura negation.
This really isn't a valid comparison, given Erza has dealt with her with her own danmaku before which is far greater than 8 swords. Youko is just comparable to Erza in terms of Skill and having more arms means she is able to land more attacks.
When has Erza dealt with her Heaven's Wheel spam?
That's the point of that comparison, Zoro's own 3 Sword Style in East Blue is harder to dodge than 6-8 arms attacking at every direction possible, and has feats of being able to defend from the same thing Erza wasn't able to without growing extra limbs to compensate.
Honestly forgot about that part, my b.
Deflecting a blow is far more difficult than dodging one as you not only need to determine where you are placing yourself avoid being tagged similar to a dodge but you also need to maintain a good posture for the deflect itself as well as where you are deflecting the opposing weapon to. In fact thrusts attacks are fairly difficult to actually block in combat as they are less telegraphed then slashes. Deflecting is also more dangerous and require more skill as not only do you need to work around the body mechanics but the placement of the sword also matter as well as the how you're deflecting the blade away as well.
Can I ask where you even got this from? This is basic physics, dodging and dancing around the attack requires more more movement in a much smaller area. One is using Acrobatics to dance around attacks with large AoE, in a very limited space with Zoro being inches away. Erza is standing in place and moving her wrist and arms to deflect, how is this even a valid comparison?
Again that's simply not true, a trust based attacks are a lot more telegraphed, the center of gravity is changed, it requires an outwards thrust with your shoulder and biceps, almost an added thrust by the hips. Someone who knows how to slash properly isn't gonna be telegraphing like a mad man swinging around a sword, while even a professional fencer is forced to make those movements. Thrusting is also impossible at a close range (with swords.) while slash is still possible even in meele range.
Deflecting isn't more dangerous than dodging, the purpose of Deflecting is to make sure to deflect while using a object, she's using a shield and if we're really gonna argue like this let's talk about how much, much more movement in the body is needed to evade AoE based attacks using nothing but your body without any form of protection such as a sword which you can block with. Erza is stationary and blocking swords that are traveling in a linear fashion, Zoro is dodging attacks that are faster than him, with large AoE, and from several directions.
First of all it's unknown how Irene actually did that so i fail to see the purpose of this scan, Irene isn't even remotely implied to be a skilled meele combatant. Irene excells in magic, she very easily could have casted a spell to block.
Which is impressive how? Again, Irene skill in close combat isn't at all impressive.
From an Essay on ARMA it specifically outlines that dodging is a much more efficient usage of movement, and that it is the preferred method of avoiding an attack in combat. This makes Parrying Danmaku more impressive than dodging it as Erza would have less time and movement to parry the next attack and the attack after that.
First of all don't put words into my mouth, I didn't say that they would be swinging their sword like a madman, all I said was that thrusts are less Telegraphed than slashes the amount of telegraph is much but it is still there. This is just factually correct as a straight thrust requires less movements and rotation of the body than a cut would.
This is just wrong as half swording exists,
Deflecting is 100% more dangerous than Dodging as the former require proper alignment and incredibly fast motions with a blade in order to move your opponents blade out of the way. As even a single thrust could lead to fatal injuries do to the penetration that thrush have. Thrusts are specifically for countering armored enemies like Erza is as to focus on gaps in the armor.
Irene was able to block Erza's strikes even when she was using 3 swords at once and enchanted by Wendy at the time and still calls her skill is swordsmanship pathetic and mocks her for it.
Given Irene has feats of fending off Erza's attacks in martial combat she would be around Erza's skill level, so unless you can provide evidence against this than Irene is on Erza's level of skill.
For the record i think erza is def skilled its just zoro better being the swordsman archetype guy of his verse
Absolute wank, Erza isn't more skilled than Zoro in any way shape of form. Shit isn't even arguable, Zoro is objectively more skilled even in East Blue.
