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How so? Most of it is just various forms of elemental manipulation, & Lightning being 8-C may be based on an outdated standard. (Unsure.)
& IIRC, she still largely fights with a sword.
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9-B Medieval Tournament of Swords, Spears, and More
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& IIRC, she still largely fights with a sword.
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Most don't have outs to it?
What's the matter with elemental attacks? 9-B Fire or Wind or Water or Earth are just as damaging as 9-B Sword blows, right?
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I’m bumping this so as to avoid it being missed. Is that okay?
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I see. Well, if folks think she's too fair, I suppose it would seem reasonable to disallow her participation. \
Quoting my own post detailing her & potential issues for clarity:
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Hax should be alright as long as they're out of character to use but they're hopefully not wincons either? Mile has quite a few magic hax, especially sleep manip and elemental magic, if those can be immediately administered, then she probably isn't allowed.
Zomborg probably wouldn't qualify, premodern mostly means ancient, medieval or pre 20th century people
Zomborg probably wouldn't qualify, premodern mostly means ancient, medieval or pre 20th century people
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My memory isn't clear, but I think she's likely to use Sleep Manipulation early on, since she's showed preference to non-lethally defeating opponents before.
So, that's a rejection of her?
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Likely, sorry about that.
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I see. So early 1900’s is a bit too late then?
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Yeah if it goes too long without another fighter, I'll consider adding warriors I put on the waiting list:
- Mii
- Aragorn (he should scale to Legolas, who himself is able to contend with much more durable opponents, will find a calc later)
- Legolas
- Zomborg
- Zelda
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Aragorn and Legolas actually should scale below the Cave Troll in Moria since Legolas killed it with a well-placed shot, and Aragorn and Boromir survived blows from it but that's just the movies unfortunately
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Fair enough, no worries. Gonna start combing for candidates. AtM, dunno how long you'll be awake to evaluate submissions, so I'll post them as I find them for now:
Zelda (Zelda's Adventure)
In Zelda's Adventure, Princess Zelda is once again the playable character. Unlike her appearance from the previous CD-i games, she appears to be more humble and does not speak at all, akin to Link in canon games. She wields the Wand as opposed to a sword, which she uses as her main weapon and to...
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Zelda seems to be primarily a magic user and not a melee fighter
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Technically, the wand is initially & primarily used as a melee weapon, from the start of the game. (Not to mention the magic is finite & Rupee-based.)
Still, given the variety of magical abilities Zelda acquires in that game (Even if not all of them are for combat.), I can understand the argument for her being too magic-oriented to be eligible. My apologies.
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She's on the waiting list, if you happen to find a better suited candidate, let me know
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I just might!
As of this post, I finished going over my massive list that I got just to find candidates for this tournament!
Suki
Suki is a major character in the animated series, Avatar: The Last Airbender. Beginning her training at the age of eight, she eventually became the leader of the Kyoshi Island's group of Kyoshi Warriors. Inspired when Team Avatar helped save their village from Zuko, she left Kyoshi Island to...
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Rayla
Rayla is a Moonshadow Elf and the youngest of a former band of assassins sworn to protect Xadia. Despite her age, she is the fastest and strongest of all of her comrades, though lacks a desire for waging war and its unnecessary bloodshed. Along with Callum and Ezran, she returned the Dragon...
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Esmeralda (Octopath Traveler)
Esmeralda is the final boss of Tressa's story who appears to have been hinted through her entire journey. She is an assassin who appears to possess great interest in Graham's Notebook. She has one of her underlings discretely follow Tressa where ever she goes throughout her journey. She is...
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Narset
Narset is a human planeswalker native to Takir. In the old timeline of Takir, Narset was the Khan of the Jeskai, a clan of warrior monks. Noted for a restless mind yet exceptional mental discipline, she was said to have the potential for full enlightenment but remained only at the cusp. In the...
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Naga (Puzzle and Dragons)
Naga is a species of monster from Puzzle and Dragons. They are a race of humanoid snake monsters who are known for being skilled and deadly fighters, but are also known for being quite compassionate and loving to cook. They evolve first into the larger Echidna and then into the much more...
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Valkyrie (Puzzle and Dragons)
Valkyrie is a species of monster from Puzzle and Dragons. A warrior goddess of excellent sword-fighting skill, these monsters battle with enough grace and poise to leave opponents gawking. They evolve into Great Valkyrie, and even more powerful and skilled goddess of victory, Their kind have...
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Ceri (Sakura Dungeon)
Ceri was a knight and adventurer from a normal village, but lucky enough to be picked and trained by the legendary adventurer, Maeve. In one particular quest to clear a dungeon, she unseals and unleashes the Kitsune Yomi, who proceeds to capture and enslave her after Ceri's repeated attempts at...
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Delilah Moreau
Delilah Moreau was a member of a scientific group known as the Cavalcadium, one of only women of the time to have a great fascination of chemistry. Here is where she met Peter Walter I and Thadeus Becile, causing a friendly rivalry between the two of them and all other men of the group to win...
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Hornet (Hollow Knight)
Hornet is a major character within the indie Hollow Knight. Hornet is first seen in Greenpath, fleeing from The Knight in the opposite direction without any interaction. When confronting Hornet later on, she decides to fight The Knight revealing herself as a boss fight. Once defeated, Hornet...
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Nina Levers
Nina is one of the main characters of the novel To Deprive a Deprived Person. She is an adventurer girl who met Yuu after seeing him being attacked by the other adventurers, so she would try to be friends with him by knowing what it was like to be treated badly. Nina would join Yuu's party, and...
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Kaladin Stormblessed
Kaladin Stormblessed is a central character of Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive series. He was born as the son of a darkeyed surgeon and raised in the town of Hearthstone, where he would practice to become of the same profession as his father. However, the jealousy and spite of a lighteyed...
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Shallan Davar
He saw it in her eyes. The anguish, the frustration. The terrible nothing that clawed inside and sought to smother her. She knew. It was there, inside. She had been broken. Then she smiled. Oh, storms. She smiled anyway.Kaladin's observation of Shallan Shallan Davar is a prominent character...
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Samuel Vimes
Odd thing, ain't it... you meet people one at a time, they seem decent, they got brains that work, and then they get together and you hear the voice of the people. And it snarls.Vimes Samuel Vimes is the cynical protagonist of Terry Pratchett's Discworld, which is a planet situated on the backs...
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Bean (Disenchantment)
Bean is the princess of Dreamland who often goes against her father's wishes. She is prone to drugs and alcohol and spends most of her time with her friends Elfo and Luci getting into as much trouble as they can. Tier: At least 9-C, likely 9-B Name: Tiabeanie Mariabeanie de la Rochambeau...
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Aelin Galathynius
Aelin Galathynius, also known as Celaena Sardothien, is an assassin and the last surviving member of the Terrasen royal family. Tier: 9-B | At least 7-C Key: Magic Restricted | Magic Unleashed Name: Aelin Ashryver Whitethorn Galathynius, Celaena Sardothien Origin: Throne of Glass Gender: Female...
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Hopefully at least some of those are qualified for people to pick from.
Anyone willing to look over this & see which seem fine for submission?
I know I can only I have 2 entries submitted on my behalf, so hopefully folks can be helpful about picking entries.
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That's a lot of submissions, are there any two in particular you prefer?
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Well, I'm not 100% sure if they all meet the pre-modern criteria, plus it may be unclear what joule range some fall into....
But generally, I wanted people to mention which they feel they should enter; Having a bunch of characters like this already posted may help people who are indecisive or unknowledgeable, but still want to enter someone.
Rayla might be neat, for her versatility. Suki is a notedly skilled melee fighter, could have a lot of supporters (AtLA), Naga & Valkyrie have some versatility & such, & I like their style (I checked that they seem to use melee weapons. If you want, you can double check them). & Hornet might be fun because she's an agile 9-B the size of a bug.
& I'd assume The Dragon Prince, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Puzzles & Dragons & Hollow Knight are all popular enough to get support, so I think of those could incite nicely lively matches.
Personally, I like them, but not sure which I like most.
Esmerelda or Aelin could be difficult opponents. Narset, too, possibly, depending on if Mana gives any unwritten abilities.
Those are which I'd say are the most interesting, off the top of my head, but even then, I'm sure you can tell, it still feels multiple choice, lol.
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Alright I'll summarize your entries:
- Suki: Too weak to meet the AP criteria
- Rayla: Should be alright, has no hax, scales to 273, 000 joules
- Esmeralda: Qualifies; No hax but doesn't have any available calcs except scaling above a venomtooth tiger, which I assume is above a regular tiger, so 100 000+ joules
- Narset: Kind of weak durability-wise, no available calcs so baseline will be assumed; Doesn't meet the criteria
- Naga: Denied; No available calcs so baseline
- Valkyrie: Denied for same reasons as Naga
- Cera: No available calcs
- Delilah: Denied; No available calcs
- Hornet: Possible but small size is awkward for these fights
- Nina Levers: Fine I suppose? No available calcs besides fragmenting stone walls, which iirc doesn't reach the AP range
- Kaladin: Ap calc is needed but is apparently comparable to Shallan
- Shallan Davar: Seems to upscale from 98k joules but is by default weak without her stat amps; Iffy on her
- Samuel Vimes: Scales to 383,022.8 Joules so he's fine;
- Bean: Scales above 98k joules so she's alright
- Aelin: Scales to 517k joules with no hax so I suppose she's alright
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A tiger is 100,000+ joules?
A little frustrating, considering their scaling chain includes stuff like things that boil bodies of water, & this: Wall level (Comparable to Melagois, can set off tremors just by panicking, one Morigannon knocked over multiple trees while walking through a forest)
But the feats aren't calc'd, so the scaling is unclear. Darn.
But no calcs, so like a lot of the others, she's denied by the statistic requirement?
(Also, Suki's statue kick needs a calc, too, now that I think about it. That's 3 entries denied because of stuff being knocked over not being calc'd!)
Anyway, given the above, my first 2 choices among those you have not deemed ineligible, I'd say, that in descending order of preference:
1. Rayla
2. Esmerelda
3. Hornet
4. Aelin
5. Everyone else is roughly equal, I suppose.
So, how are those for elligibility?
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Tigers are roughly equal to bears irl, who have 100k joules piercing damage, so I worked off from there. Since venomtooths are presumably superior and Esmeralda still scales above it should be fine
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Ah, okay. Also, you missed one. Not your fault, though; Oddly, the link didn't auto-preview.
"Also an animated pre-modern melee fighter. Or from the same series: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Janai "
Considering Janai is above Callum & Rayla in Speed, & is an armored adult compared to the adolescent, I'd think it's safe to assume Janai could also be a valid choice, since her stats should be plenty into the threshold, right?
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Yeah she's valid too if she's above Rayla
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Good to know. Good to have the option on the table to enter her if need be, but I'll stick with my previous 2 choices for the time being (Rayla & Esmerelda.), I think.
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Alright will be added
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Alright, with that out of the way, we have four more slots remaining for those who want to make an entry
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Alright to speed things along, I'll try and add some more characters to fill in the empty spaces. However, I'm not going to choose, you are. Here are the list of possible placeholder characters we can have, all qualified and none are from any of my particularly favorite verses. Take note that these characters can be replaced but if I feel like we've gone for too long without any more submissions, this will be the pool I'll be drawing from.
- Guts (Berserk) - Golden Age version before Eclipse, scales wayyy above 100k joules; no hax any worse than that of existing entries
- Ragnar (Red Rising) - scales above 113K joules; no hax
- Robert Baratheon (A Song of Ice and Fire) - scales to 107k joules; no hax
- Gregor Clegane (A Song of Ice and Fire) - either key should work, scales to 107k joules; no hax
- Conan the Barbarian - scales to 514k joules; no hax
- Jin Sakai (Ghost of Tsushima) - scales to 100k joules through bears; hax come from his equipment so they can be restricted
- Composite Ruler (Crusader Kings 2) - scales to 100k joules through bears; haxes are either weak or non combat applicable/OOC in a real fight
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Bump, Guts has been added
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Also Achilles (Troy) is another one i thought of
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Alright I'll just increase it to 3 dudes per user to make this quick, next one after Guts has to be a user submitted one, and then the next one will be a placeholder and so on,
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Bump, Conan the Barbarian has been added
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