By removing heat friction Saitama would retain all of his kinetic energy from Boros' kick, rather than have it be converted into thermal energy. By the aura existing, friction becomes a non-factor.
I never denied the energy reduces friction.
So the idea that they can move at near-light speed is more believable
No it's not, nothing you said right now supports that. Just because Boros kicked Saitama at near light speed doesn't in any way translate to the fact that his energy might help him move at near speed of light. We again returned to the old "his energy moves things at near SOL" argument, that has no support in the manga or databook.
The kick launches Saitama at near-light speed, due to his internal energy acting as a boosting propulsive force. I think that in of itself would be enough evidence for his Rel+ rating along with the lack of friction.
First of all I want to address something, I don't care about Rel+ rating, we are arguing about how he got that speed.
We are not discussing this argument,
you are trying to keep Rel+ Boros, I am trying to remove "his energy moves things at SOL" justification.
Since friction not being a factor there's more reasoning that Boros' leg was moving at near-light speeds.
Lack of friction doesn't make you near SOL, we don't automatically give everyone who fights in space near SOL speeds just because there's no friction, you have to achieve this speed first.
I've previously addressed the friction thing. Without friction Saitama's speed is solely dependent on Boros' leg momentum and the energy he's using to boost it.
Yes, because thats the case, Saitama was launched at that speed because Boros's kick was enhanced, not because his energy removed the friction, and not because his energy has magical properties of carrying things at near SOL.
As I said in that reply nothing in the manga supports your narrative.
You statement "
The Artbook description said that the aura negates friction which is why Saitama could be launched at high speeds" , you made it seem like the lack of friction helped get Saitama to the Moon, which isn't stated anywhere, which I already addressed and you haven't replied to it properly.
That was my reply:
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The bold part here is the issue. You said "which is why Saitama could be launched at high speeds", which is practically wrong. This isn't what the quote actually states.
It states: "I basically resolved the whole question of heat friction by wrapping Saitama in Boros's energy while he was being launched near the speed of light".
Nowhere is it stated that the energy or the lack of heat friction allowed to launch Saitama at near Light Speed like you said. It only said that the lack of heat friction allowed Saitama's clothes to remain intact, that's it. Everything else is your addition to the statement, not canon."
You will have to respond to this better, especially the bold parts.
Friction was only an issue while on Earth, Saitama traveled to the Moon in vacuum, so it was a non factor for 99% of the way.
And yes, Saitama's speed was the result of Boros's Strength, not lack of friction, it's true that friction contributed to his acceleration while in the atmosphere but it's just 0.1 percent of the whole way, maybe even less.
Boros is always covered in some form of energy when he's moving. The aura itself has frictionless properties, so I think Murata and the work are implying a correlating factor between the two. Like how he drew Gery's rock with the same aura around them which was to showcase his (personal) intention to have them have frictionless properties due to psionic enhancements.
I know he is covered in his energy when he is in MB. How does having frictionless aura makes one near lightspeed, again? In Gery's case he does the same thing, maybe to reduce the friction so his rocks don't evaporate, Murata stated once that Gery is the only one that can throw objects at such high speeds without damaging them.
But that doesn't justify the case of Boros. Having himself covered Boros only reduces friction and you can't automatically grant people near-sol speed because of that.
The rest would just be retreads of what I said previously in this comment. I will say that its not as concrete as I want it to be, but that the evidence we do have would be enough for the rating in my view
You still haven't brought proof on how Boros's energy makes him accelerate himself to near-light speed, I agree that his aura makes him frictionless since its stated by Murata that his energy can do that.
But it doesn't say the energy has the properties to launch something at near SOL, if there is one, then post a statement that clearly says that his energy can move things its wrapped in at near SOL.
I know that, but his speed would still logically have to be superior to the speed he kicked saitama at, and wouldn't just putting "At least Relativistic+" instead of FTL be better as it is at least superior to the speed saitama was launched
I don't know about that, I said, if someone wants to upgrade Boros to Rel+ again if this thread gets accepted, then they can create a new CRT.
This one already has a bunch of replies, and the argument here is completely different, the point of this CRT is to remove this justification and as a result Rel+, not to revise his speed with new justification.
