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The 2nd thread, hopefully less chaotic this time. I will mainly be going over Dante, just cus i have only checked his profile so let's go.
Volume 1 Dante
1) Deconstruction, the scan does not show dante having some sort of special bullet capable of doing this. And that is what happens to demons when they die, not all of them, each of them has a different type of death, but this can be seen even in the normal gameplay, Dante just whacks a buncha demons with his sword or any weapon, then they just evaporate or explode after some time. Im more eager to say that's just how demons work rather than it being an ability Dante has because even if the gameplay isn't a good enough reasoning then here is DMC3 demons just exploding to what appears to be dust from an average Dante punch (it happens all the time no matter how they're killed), here is Berial exploding into sparks after Dante shoots him. Here is how Bael dies. Here is Echidna dying in another similar but not deconstruction fashion from the same gunshot. Then we have Credo's death, who was not even caused by Dante, yet look at how he dies from an average stab from Yamato. I could gather more deaths if i wanted to, basically the entirety of the demon deaths in DMC4 from fodder to high tier we see on pannel, Goliath, Artemis, Nidhogg, Geryon Knight's horse, Gilgamesh, Cavaliere, Malphas, King Cerberus and the familiar's death from DMC5 , but you already get the point.
2) Resistance to soul manip (that just turns people into demons) (evidence provided, it can stay)
3) Resistance to Corruption type 3 (Dante is already half demon) Dante shouldn't be affected by the demon world stuff cus it is stated by Chen in the novel after beating mundus and even Agnus says "you're not a human". And it's supposed to affect only humans. And to quote the novel:
And in that moment, he and Dante both understood the reason why the Beastheads had never assimilated any of the demons that had carried it. It was the same reason Dante was able to carve his way through the gel coffin and stand in front of Chen.
"The Beastheads eats us humans and replenishes you demons. It's like a power transformer for souls!"
"Probably." Dante shrugged. The power that now imbued him felt neither good nor evil. It simply was. Whoever wielded it could reshape reality to its own design, for better or for worse.
Chen refers to Dante as a "demon" and says that because of this he does not get negatively affected by the Beastheads which supposedly should affect humans. SImilarly if being half human-half demon is considered being a demon, that would mean he would not be affected by the demon world effects either. (evidence provided, it can stay)
4) Resistance to Fear Manipulation (Dante is a demon, he's not gonna be scared of such weak demons, it's like giving humans resistance to fear hax for looking at each-other when birds are scared of them). And the fear manip works solely because of the human's "6th sense" of danger, not because of "mind hax gg".
DMC3:
1) Why does Dante have Power Null for Royal Guard? Nullifying an attack isn't power null, as it is not nullifying abilities.
DMC1:
1) Soul manipulation should be changed to "possibly". It is more like he's theorizing, there even is a question mark on the "soul". And the cores do seem to be a lot more physical than "souls" considering they make sounds when being whacked, have durability, can be damaged by Calina Ann. So a "possibly" seems more fair here. Also it's not Soul Manip, it is non physical interaction. rejected
2) Resistance to Poison. They strictly tell you to stay away. Why is that resistance? And the poison isn't necessarily lethal, nor would anyone with regen instantly go down from poison.
3) Resistance to AZ, this is more of a standard change. It's just resistance to cold, since he's just being hit by AZ stuff, not being frozen to AZ.
4) Resistance to ESP if this comes from DMC5 then i'll have to disagree. It was more like the demons were attracted to the sword instead of Dante. So the sword itself had more presence than Dante, cus it would make no sense for the sword to hide Dante's presence when Dante wasn't even wielding it.
DMC Anime:
1) Regeneration Negation should be yeeted. He killed sid after a battle and we all know how "effective" healing becomes after long battles from several statements throughout the series. After long battles we should not rely much on healing considering we know that it becomes greatly ineffective
2) Resistance to sound manip. What kind of sound attacks are we talking about here? There should be more clarification on the profile (Provided and it's legit, it can stay)
DMC2:
1) Immortality negation. Not a thing. Type 5 is not a form of immortality you necessarily need to bypass to end someone.
2) Fear Manipulation. Broken link, someone should fix it. They will add scans
3) Dimensional travel. Why? Seems a bit weird, he just beats the boss and a portal opens Bloody Palace style.
4) Resistance to Mind Manipulation. Demon world energy, i went over it before with the whole "human" and "demon". explained it's fine to stay
DMC4:
1) Resurrection. It should probably be stated on the profile "with Gold Orb". Assuming that's the reason he has it. finished
2) BFR with yamato. Why? Yamato opens portals to the underworld, it doesn't BFR. BFR means to send somebody somewhere by force, afaik Yamato has no ability where it forces people somewhere else, they have to willingly walk through the portal. So swap this with "Portal Creation". Dowgraded
3) Minor Transmutation with Gilgamesh. Im confused on this one, i don't remember any transmutation with Gilgamesh, haven't played DMC4 in a while but someone should remind me why this is and put that reasoning in the profile. provided evidence it's fine.
4) Resistance to Sealing. No, Sparda separated the 2 world, Yamato specifically opens a portal between them. It does not resist or bypass sealing, it just bypasses the separation which is what dimensional travel is supposed to do by default, open a portal between 2 separated places.
DMC5:
1) Gravity manip needs a scan. Psychometry needs a justification. The rest is fine.
That's all i had.
Volume 1 Dante
1) Deconstruction, the scan does not show dante having some sort of special bullet capable of doing this. And that is what happens to demons when they die, not all of them, each of them has a different type of death, but this can be seen even in the normal gameplay, Dante just whacks a buncha demons with his sword or any weapon, then they just evaporate or explode after some time. Im more eager to say that's just how demons work rather than it being an ability Dante has because even if the gameplay isn't a good enough reasoning then here is DMC3 demons just exploding to what appears to be dust from an average Dante punch (it happens all the time no matter how they're killed), here is Berial exploding into sparks after Dante shoots him. Here is how Bael dies. Here is Echidna dying in another similar but not deconstruction fashion from the same gunshot. Then we have Credo's death, who was not even caused by Dante, yet look at how he dies from an average stab from Yamato. I could gather more deaths if i wanted to, basically the entirety of the demon deaths in DMC4 from fodder to high tier we see on pannel, Goliath, Artemis, Nidhogg, Geryon Knight's horse, Gilgamesh, Cavaliere, Malphas, King Cerberus and the familiar's death from DMC5 , but you already get the point.
2) Resistance to soul manip (that just turns people into demons) (evidence provided, it can stay)
3) Resistance to Corruption type 3 (Dante is already half demon) Dante shouldn't be affected by the demon world stuff cus it is stated by Chen in the novel after beating mundus and even Agnus says "you're not a human". And it's supposed to affect only humans. And to quote the novel:
And in that moment, he and Dante both understood the reason why the Beastheads had never assimilated any of the demons that had carried it. It was the same reason Dante was able to carve his way through the gel coffin and stand in front of Chen.
"The Beastheads eats us humans and replenishes you demons. It's like a power transformer for souls!"
"Probably." Dante shrugged. The power that now imbued him felt neither good nor evil. It simply was. Whoever wielded it could reshape reality to its own design, for better or for worse.
Chen refers to Dante as a "demon" and says that because of this he does not get negatively affected by the Beastheads which supposedly should affect humans. SImilarly if being half human-half demon is considered being a demon, that would mean he would not be affected by the demon world effects either. (evidence provided, it can stay)
4) Resistance to Fear Manipulation (Dante is a demon, he's not gonna be scared of such weak demons, it's like giving humans resistance to fear hax for looking at each-other when birds are scared of them). And the fear manip works solely because of the human's "6th sense" of danger, not because of "mind hax gg".
DMC3:
1) Why does Dante have Power Null for Royal Guard? Nullifying an attack isn't power null, as it is not nullifying abilities.
DMC1:
1) Soul manipulation should be changed to "possibly". It is more like he's theorizing, there even is a question mark on the "soul". And the cores do seem to be a lot more physical than "souls" considering they make sounds when being whacked, have durability, can be damaged by Calina Ann. So a "possibly" seems more fair here. Also it's not Soul Manip, it is non physical interaction. rejected
2) Resistance to Poison. They strictly tell you to stay away. Why is that resistance? And the poison isn't necessarily lethal, nor would anyone with regen instantly go down from poison.
3) Resistance to AZ, this is more of a standard change. It's just resistance to cold, since he's just being hit by AZ stuff, not being frozen to AZ.
4) Resistance to ESP if this comes from DMC5 then i'll have to disagree. It was more like the demons were attracted to the sword instead of Dante. So the sword itself had more presence than Dante, cus it would make no sense for the sword to hide Dante's presence when Dante wasn't even wielding it.
DMC Anime:
1) Regeneration Negation should be yeeted. He killed sid after a battle and we all know how "effective" healing becomes after long battles from several statements throughout the series. After long battles we should not rely much on healing considering we know that it becomes greatly ineffective
2) Resistance to sound manip. What kind of sound attacks are we talking about here? There should be more clarification on the profile (Provided and it's legit, it can stay)
DMC2:
1) Immortality negation. Not a thing. Type 5 is not a form of immortality you necessarily need to bypass to end someone.
2) Fear Manipulation. Broken link, someone should fix it. They will add scans
3) Dimensional travel. Why? Seems a bit weird, he just beats the boss and a portal opens Bloody Palace style.
4) Resistance to Mind Manipulation. Demon world energy, i went over it before with the whole "human" and "demon". explained it's fine to stay
DMC4:
1) Resurrection. It should probably be stated on the profile "with Gold Orb". Assuming that's the reason he has it. finished
2) BFR with yamato. Why? Yamato opens portals to the underworld, it doesn't BFR. BFR means to send somebody somewhere by force, afaik Yamato has no ability where it forces people somewhere else, they have to willingly walk through the portal. So swap this with "Portal Creation". Dowgraded
3) Minor Transmutation with Gilgamesh. Im confused on this one, i don't remember any transmutation with Gilgamesh, haven't played DMC4 in a while but someone should remind me why this is and put that reasoning in the profile. provided evidence it's fine.
4) Resistance to Sealing. No, Sparda separated the 2 world, Yamato specifically opens a portal between them. It does not resist or bypass sealing, it just bypasses the separation which is what dimensional travel is supposed to do by default, open a portal between 2 separated places.
DMC5:
1) Gravity manip needs a scan. Psychometry needs a justification. The rest is fine.
That's all i had.
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