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Hey, currently we're doing a Low 1-C CRT for Cookie Run. If you don't know the verse take ur chance to see it, its a fun game and very OP verse

Hey, if you've got the time, check out this thread. One more vote is needed

Hey, we need one more staff vote for this.

Hey, can you review this CRT, we need one more vote

Hello, can you review this CRT, we need one more staff vote

Hey Bambu, We've reached our conclusions for the Low 1-C Cookie Run Upgrade and require one more staff vote for it to be applied. Please take a look.

Hi, could you please check out this CRT?
(I hope you answer my request 🌹)
REX9097
REX9097
Can you check this CRT? 😃
Hello Ultima I have a question as I am new to VSBW. I have a question about High1-A and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. How does it work differently than layers, i.e. characters at High1-A level above baseline, and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. My overall question is, how is Meta-meta-qualitative superiority different from layers and how does it work?
Hllo Phoenks I have a question as I am new to VSBW. I have a question about High1-A and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. How does it work differently than layers, i.e. characters at High1-A level above baseline, and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. My overall question is, how is Meta-meta-qualitative superiority different from layers and how does it work?
Phoenks
Phoenks
Okay so. Think of it like this.

1-A is the start of qualitative superiority.

In 1-A, you can get layers by being higher up on the same system of qualities. For example, let's use a system of R>F differences.

The first R>F difference is baseline 1-A. The second one is a layer into 1-A, and so on. Each layer sees the one below as fiction.

High 1-A (Meta-Quality) is beyond this entire system of qualities. No amount of R>F above 1-A reaches it.

Now let's say that within this new High 1-A (Meta-Quality) system, there is a higher-level/layer of it which sees the baseline layer as fictional or otherwise ontologically inferior. This would be one layer into High 1-A. You could have infinite amount of these layers, and it still wouldn't reach Meta-Meta Quality, but would still be far superior to each other.

Similarly, let's now say that there's some structure of being that no amount of these ontological layers into the first Meta-Quality system can reach. This would be Meta-Meta-Quality.

You can continue these systems of meta-layering and normal layering.

You could have someone who is 30 layers into Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality, for example. And they'd be treated as being transcendent to someone who is only 29 layers into Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality.

Yet something like Meta-Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality would still be incomprehensible and unreachable relative to them.

Do you get what I mean? This system continues forever and ever.

High 1-A+ is then essentially the framework of all possible qualities and their extensions thereof.
Thinnapat_butsiri
Thinnapat_butsiri
I'm starting to understand more of what you're saying, but I still have a couple of questions. Please help me clarify them. For example, Gu Chensha above the Immortal Realm is above the Infinite Baseline, right? And there's something else I want to ask you, is there a baseline higher than the Infinite?
Hi Armor, can you please take a look at this request?

This other one too would be nice but it's less urgent. The first one might need to replace the current Low 7-B rating characters scale to depending on how research goes. The current justification is a bit shaky.
Tyranno223
Tyranno223
Thanks! I assume the value would need to be divided since it's the result of Gandalf and the Balrog dueling.

Do you have time to do a proper blog?
Armorchompy
Armorchompy
I can do one if needed. I guess there is the issue of the fact that this was caused by them fighting overtime rather than just a single clash (i think)? I know (well, i vaguely remember) that the fight took days, do we know how long it took for the storm to kick up?
Tyranno223
Tyranno223
"‘There upon Celebdil was a lonely window in the snow, and before it lay a narrow space, a dizzy eyrie above the mists of the world. The sun shone fiercely there, but all below was wrapped in cloud. Out he sprang, and even as I came behind, he burst into new flame. There was none to see, or perhaps in after ages songs would still be sung of the Battle of the Peak.’ Suddenly Gandalf laughed. ‘But what would they say in song? Those that looked up from afar thought that the mountain was crowned with storm. Thunder they heard, and lightning, they said, smote upon Celebdil, and leaped back broken into tongues of fire. Is not that enough? A great smoke rose about us, vapour and steam. Ice fell like rain. I threw down my enemy, and he fell from the high place and broke the mountain-side where he smote it in his ruin. Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time, and I wandered far on roads that I will not tell."

It seems to have occurred shortly after the battle restarted. There isn't a pause or anything from between the Balrog reigniting to the mention of a battle of which "songs would still be sung" ages after if people witnessed it.


3019
January
23 Gandalf pursues the Balrog to the peak of Zirakzigil.
25 He casts down the Balrog, and passes away. His body lies on the peak.

Overall, the battle went from the 23rd of January to the 25th.

The storm may or may not have lasted the entire time. I assume it did. It was at least ended with the conclusion of the fight.
"‘Naked I was sent back – for a brief time, until my task is done. And naked I lay upon the mountain-top. The tower behind was crumbled into dust, the window gone; the ruined stair was choked with burned and broken stone. I was alone, forgotten, without escape upon the hard horn of the world. There I lay staring upward, while the stars wheeled over, and each day was as long as a life-age of the earth..."
Hello! All good? Sorry if I'm bothering you, but when you can, could you evaluate these two calculations?
Hello what tier would this qualify for?Infinite↑↑↑↑↑........infinite (number of "↑" is infinite in amount using Knuth's up arrow notation) amount of 2-A realms. Is this Low 1-A? 1-A? High 1-A?
Hi darth, Could you please answer this question thread? An ongoing versus thread involving this and it's getting annoying to keep track when nothing is really moving forward. Thanks in advance 🙏🏽
Much appreciated on that last one. I have one more. I swear this one's quick
Dark-Carioca
Dark-Carioca
Is the pic indicating 791 px for the big metal thing important? It doesn't seem to be acknowledged in the calc since nothing's written about it.
TheAngryOrange
More like redundant. I usually set up multiple ways to do the same calc. Ended up forgetting I had begun taking a second measurement.
Hi can you help us evaluate this crt your opinion would be helpful

Your input is highly appreciated, thanks in advance

So according to this user, they think Bleach’s verse mechanics (Mind tied to the Soul more specifically for ghosts and spirits) should apply to other verses for unconventional resistance to mind manipulation for spirits and ghosts specifically. Something I disagree with that myself as it shouldn’t inherently warrant any mind manipulation resistance.
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