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Natsu vs Tsuna (Redux)

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Because the old match was removed due to Tsuna's downgrade. So I make this again.

Natsu vs Tsuna

Post-Second Origin Dragon Force Natsu and Tsuna With Original Vongola Ring in this fight

Fight in Namimori school

Speed equalized

Ok, who is the winner?
 
Still Tsuna, Natsu to much an incompetent fighter to take advantage of weakness tsuna his, combine that with tsuna's precog and pertifiction and its game over
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Still Tsuna, Natsu to much an incompetent fighter to take advantage of weakness tsuna his, combine that with tsuna's precog and pertifiction and its game over
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BS.

Natsu figured out Jellal's movement pattern and even thou Jellal was blitzing him the entire time he found a way to actually block his attack and counter them.

In fight with Sting and Rogue he figured all of their attack patterns, their defence patterns and even the rhythms of their breathing.

In his fight against a dude who controls all flame he found a way to hurt him with flames by enlarging his area of action and he figured out all of these things in very limited amount of time and people call him incompetent fighter.

And there is more proofs of him being an amazing fighter who impressed even the various guild masters and even likes of Erza, Laxus and Jura.

Saying that Natsu is a incompetent fighter and things like he is not skilled or a good strategist and just brawler that doesn't use brain is just pure nerf and I've seen it so many times being said.
 
@Pete

Incompetent fighter? Natsu's been a capable brawler since the outset of the series.

As William stated, Natsu pays a surprising amount of attention to detail in a fight, between reading Jellal's movement patterns as well as Sting and Rogue's footwork and fighting stances down to the angles they placed their feet and arms.

In addition, Tsuna doesn't regularly use Zero Point Breakthrough to the best of my knowledge.
 
Also, you should likely just use their 7-A versions because like this they both have two different tiers in those keys which makes everything more complicated.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Pete

Incompetent fighter? Natsu's been a capable brawler since the outset of the series.

As William stated, Natsu pays a surprising amount of attention to detail in a fight, between reading Jellal's movement patterns as well as Sting and Rogue's footwork and fighting stances down to the angles they placed their feet and arms.

In addition, Tsuna doesn't regularly use Zero Point Breakthrough to the best of my knowledge.
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I didn't really mean all togther, i meant when it matters most he can be a dunce and the pertifiction comes from the harmony skyflame, your thinking of his freezing ability
 
^When it matters the most he can be dunce? In a battle? When? Show me one instance. Natsu even figured out a way to absorb God slaying flames by using up all of his magical energy.
 
Ok, I think now we have score like this.

Tsuna: 2 (Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff, GokuBold)

Natsu: 0

Not sure that Willam and Reppuzan already cast a vote or not. So I didn't count them. Tell me if I'm wrong.
 
Voting for Natsu for now. Tsuna's long-ranged attacks will have no effect since Natsu will just eat them. Tsuna is still ridiculously outclassed in terms of actual hand-to-hand combat experience if he decides to close in.

Natsu should take this.
 
Honestly, Natsu has the advantage here in being able to eat Tsuna's sky flames and closing in on Natsu is the worst thing he can do. Also, I don't think Tsuna would use the Zero Point Breakthrough right away. Flight while a nice advantage will not help much here. Natsu has fought opponents who abuse flight before. Also Hyper Intuition is not perfect and can be fooled. Natsu may be a dunce outside of battle, but one thing he has consistently done is find counters for his opponents and use them to win. So overall, Natsu should have this.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Honestly, Natsu has the advantage here in being able to eat Tsuna's sky flames and closing in on Natsu is the worst thing he can do. Also, I don't think Tsuna would use the Zero Point Breakthrough right away. Flight while a nice advantage will not help much here. Natsu has fought opponents who abuse flight before. Also Hyper Intuition is not perfect and can be fooled. Natsu may be a dunce outside of battle, but one thing he has consistently done is find counters for his opponents and use them to win. So overall, Natsu should have this.
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Tsuna can absorb and convert flames to ya know, and there's still pertifaction (which is not zero point break though btw), and i'm not sure natsu is smart enough to fool hyper intuition, he may be combat savy, but other then that no, he get's outclassed by tsuna in that aspect
 
Tsuna for having much better and versatile skill set than Natsu. Also this match was done already and ended up 10-0 for Tsuna 2 weeks ago.
 
-That's nice, Natsu also has lightning as well.

-Would Tsuna use that right away?

-You downplay how smart Natsu is. Natsu also has had much more experience.
 
Bepo4151 said:
Tsuna for having much better and versatile skill set than Natsu. Also this match was done already and ended up 10-0 for Tsuna 2 weeks ago.
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Results can change.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
-That's nice, Natsu also has lightning as well.
-Would Tsuna use that right away?

-You downplay how smart Natsu is. Natsu also has had much more experience.
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Tsuna has delt with lightning attacks before (or know how to deal with them per say)

Why wouldn't he?

I'd take being more tactical and strategical sound over experince anyday (a good example would be shikamaru vs hidan and kakuzu)
 
-You downplay how smart Natsu is. Natsu also has had much more experience.

Natsu can have 200 IQ its still won't help him against Gravity Manipulation petrifaction and the ability to absorb flames just like him.
 
-Doesn't mean he can absorb them. And plus, Natsu can absorbs flames as well.

-Because it isn't in character for him to do so right away? Plus based on the file, Harmony is used by his animal only and Tsuna hasn't shown that he could use it himself.

-Implying Natsu is not a tactical fighter nor has fought even more tactical fighters before.
 
Bepo4151 said:
-You downplay how smart Natsu is. Natsu also has had much more experience.
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Natsu can have 200 IQ its still won't help him against Gravity Manipulation petrifaction and the ability to absorb flames just like him.
Except not if his opponent won't use them right away. In-character is still at thing.
 
-Implying Natsu is not a tactical fighter nor has fought even more tactical fighters before.

Scan where Natsu shows his brilliant tactical mind please. It doesn't have to be Joseph Joaster level.
 
Bepo4151 said:
-Implying Natsu is not a tactical fighter nor has fought even more tactical fighters before.
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Scan where Natsu shows his brilliant tactical mind please. It doesn't have to be Joseph Joaster level.
William has already posted situations. Tactical is the wrong word, more of easily adapting fighter.
 
@Bepo

William and I already gave examples. Natsu reads his opponents' stance down to the angle they position their hands and feet in order to determine the best way to counter their attacks, hence why he was doing so well against Sting even while holding back.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
-Doesn't mean he can absorb them. And plus, Natsu can absorbs flames as well.
-Because it isn't in character for him to do so right away? Plus based on the file, Harmony is used by his animal only and Tsuna hasn't shown that he could use it himself.

-Implying Natsu is not a tactical fighter nor has fought even more tactical fighters before.
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Yes, yes he can, he did it agianst xaxnus durning he's first time really showcasing his powers, i know natsu can asborb flames.......

So? the box animal is still apart of his aresnal, ergo he can use the ability for as long as the box animal is out

i'm not saying that at all, and i doubt he is as tactical or more then tsuna
 
@Peter

How many times does he use it after that?

And how many times has he used the petrification function of his Sky Flames?
 
-I wasn't talking about flames bro. I meant the lightning. Shoulda made that clear. ovo

2 and 3 is basically what Reppu has asked.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Bepo
William and I already gave examples. Natsu reads his opponents' stance down to the angle they position their hands and feet in order to determine the best way to counter their attacks, hence why he was doing so well against Sting even while holding back.
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Tsuna is no slouch in combat either
 
@Peter

He got his butt handed to him by Iemitsu despite taking on Byakuran and couldn't even recognize Reborn's adult form.

He's not unintelligent, but Natsu is still a MUCH better hand-to-hand combatant via feats.
 
I thought he was asking how many times has he used the Petrification. nvm then.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Peter
He got his butt handed to him by Iemitsu despite taking on Byakuran and couldn't even recognize Reborn's adult form.

He's not unintelligent, but Natsu is still a MUCH better hand-to-hand combatant via feats.
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Can you show me the scans of that so i can explain why that happened?

i would like to see said feats please if you can
 
"I can't rely on my eyes right now. Smell, sound, touch, I gotta predict his moves and focus!"

"But now I've seen all of your tricks. Your attack timing, your defense posture, and even the rhythm of your breathing. For example, when you attack your legs point to 11 o'clock."
 
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