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Ren Fuji vs Gilgamesh

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Funny, i did this before a year ago. People thought Ren would win given his regen and Holy Relic iirc from it all.
 
Let me get this out of the way are they both blood lusted? not just serious bloodlusted
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Funny, i did this before a year ago. People thought Ren would win given his regen and Holy Relic iirc from it all.
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Can't EA kill people that lack the concept of death? Don't see regen helping.

@Redgrave Jyst serious, in the way Gilgamesh was serious when he stood on the same ground as Berzerker.
 
@Gargoyle: That's only when EA is fully charged, yes. Otherwise it won't when it's not. Last year, people didn't consider him doing that but i forgot why.
 
It was last year and such, man. That's what i'm telling you about. IDK of now but maybe they can consider it. Last year, not so much.
 
Anyways, i remember Rep saying that Gil can handle Ren's regen through the use of those regen negation NP spears that he has in his GoB so i suppose that's one way of handling him even if he doesn't use EA at it's most powerful.
 
As Cross stated, Gil has multiple Noble Phantasms that can nullify Regen.

Gáe Bolg can nullify any form of natural Regenerationn.

Gáe Daerg prevents any kind of healing by making it so that the target's body registers as "already healed". Just as you can't heal past a character's Max HP in an RPG, you can't heal something that's already considered healed.

Harpe removes aspects of immortality and prevents wounds from healing in any way other than how they would naturally.

Assuming Gil is willing and able to hit Ren with these, they should take him down, but I don't know if he'll be able to with Ren's Time Manipulation.
 
@Rep: Sup. You remember i did this one last year, right?

Also, Ren's time manipulation in this state (Tier 7) is only through accelerating himself. It doesn't do anything unless he's either using Finale (Tier 6) or Atziluth (Tier 1 but i know it's an absolute stomp. I'm only saying of what he can do elsewhere aside from that).

So take that as you will. I do always assume that Ren will just keep getting shot at by thousands of Gils NP's in the GoB. AFAIK, Ren doesn't have anything to close gaps should Gil start off at a fair/or far distance from him. He just has his Holy Relic and...well that's it.
 
Of course since Gil is not bloodlusted, that pretty much gives me the implication that he's never gonna be using Ea anytime soon. Let alone using it at it's max power.

Then again, he still has his GoB so it doesn't matter whether he ends up using it and if he's bloodlusted or not as long as he can keep Ren at a distance and potentially stop his regen from working ever again with the spear NP's taht Rep linked and noted.
 
Basically, that's my vote on this of Gil if you haven't catched on to my comments by now. @Gargoyle
 
one problem Ren serious = him using Briah on the fly literally so he will be faster than gil and chop his head off so...Gil needs to end the fight as quick as possible because of Ren's mindset being serious and Gil not trying to use Ea on the fly. Ik about Gae's anti regen but he will have to hit Ren for it to work
 
Ren is always 100% serious and goes for the neck at the start of the match while Gil will just **** around using hallf ass Babylon gate
 
How far from each other do they start? If they start in melee following SBA Ren wins. If the distance is more, dunno
 
SBA says they start from the highest range for both fighters, so they'll be starting out hundreds of meters away from each other or whatever Gilgamesh's range is.
 
I thought they started at the highest range that allows both to strike? Nvm then
 
Not from the get-go but the second he poses a threat to Gil (which we can assume won't be too long into the fight) he'll fire EA if nothing else hits, hell he might just fire EA just to show off like he did in UBW and if he's serious it means he's more willing/likely to do so. As Repp said Gil also has weapons that can nullify regen so he may not even need EA, he has a weapon that freezes in an AOE meaning he doesnt even have to hit the damn thing, just fire it near Ren. and to top it off Gil has Enkidu which he uses more willingly and he WILL use it if Ren get's too close for comfort. I see this going to Gil just through the amount of options he has to keep a distant and methods of killing Ren aside EA that he'll use much more willingly.
 
Even if he does Ea Ren will accelerate himself before Gil can fire it of due to his mindset also being serious though he always is like that he instantly will go for the neck to end things not saying its impossible for Gil to win its just you have to keep in mind Ren's briah will make him see a lot of the fire weapons in slow mo most likely (or at least not as fast as he is when he uses it and ik speed is equal but the briah will give Ren a leg up)
 
it takes seconds to fire off a killing shot from EA, sped up or not if he's in range he's donezo. Furthermore, slo mo or not

1. he doesn't know what the weapons do

2. As I said there's the weapon that freezes in an AOE which I doubt he'd expect, he also has NP's that act as trackers.

3. He has Enkidu..If Ren get's too close there will chains locking him up from all angles and at that points speed isn't a factor.

4. Oh also Gil can fire shapless lightning so you know there's that.

5. He also has an invisible sword.. can't dodge what you can't see.

6. IDK if Ren can fly but if he can't well Gil can also use that to close distance.

7. He has that huge ass sword that butchers mountains so slow mo doesn't do good against that either.

and lastly, Sha Nagba Imuru is something WILL use if he's serious so whilt he may most likely be hesitent on pulling out EA he does have alternate options and he will know what to do.

Gil takes this via versatility and many ways to keep a distance. Unless Ren has something aside from "speed up and rush Gil's neck"
 
If i had known it somewhere, i would have added it to his page by now.

Ren can run and move fast, yes. But flight? Hell no.
 
Then I believe this fight is heavily in Gil's favor.. unless he can get to Gil in an instant he's not getting to him at all.Sha Nagba Imuru plays a big part in that. and even wit the speed up Gil has ways of slowing/stopping him and weapons that he can't ignore. Such as the trackers and invisible sword which he won't know about til he loses a leg.
 
SBA will have them starting at several hundred meters from each other. Until Ren gets to Gil he'll get so damn spammed by NPs that it's not even funny. Also even UBW Gil usually fights by keeping his distance (he did that against Heracles and also against Berserker in Fate/Zero) so closing that gap will be pretty difficult to do while under massive NP spamming since OP said he's at least serious here.

Not sure if this version of Ren can pull anything to deal with that before getting spammed into oblivion (also despite his arrogance, if Gilgamesh sees that some stuff is not working, he does change to stuff that would work, like when Berserker was no selling some of his NPs and he instantly pulled the big guns, meaning that, if he sees Ren regenerating, he'll pull the anti-regen stuff. Not sure about EA, tho).
 
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