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Erza Scarlet vs. Donquixote Doflamingo

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Um, from what I've heard, Doflamingo took several hits from Gear 4 Luffy before going down despite having several organs ruined or something.
 
Yeah, he was severely injured from laws attack but not only that, luffys gear 4 ran out and doffy could have killed luffy but he got protection from loads of people and had to be carried away, so Doflamingo beat luffy really and is therefore stronger, luffy only won because he got help
 
Joshua.foote.14 said:
I'm not sure if you need to equalize the speed but I think if Luffy could do it maybe Erza could too.
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Doffy is maybe Mach 600, Erza is at least Mach 4000+. You need to equalise the speed since the precognition doesn't work constantly so she would blitz him pretty soon,like really even Luffy blitzed him.

Now except for precognition Doffy doesn't really have anything else and since Erza fought a person who can constantly read oponents mind and predict every movement before it's even done she won't have a lot of problems with it as a normal opponent that has no experience in fighting people with precognition (or similar abilities) than she also has versatility and water weapon (she doesn't have to hit the entire body to be more effective than usual weapons) and if we consider wingblade armor she even by passes his armament HAKI which is what actually gives him the 6-C durabilty and even without that she is quite advantaged here.

Vote for Erza mid-difficulty
 
"Erza fought a person who can constantly read oponents mind and predict every movement before it's even done she won't have a lot of problems with it as a normal opponent that has no experience in fighting people with precognition"

If you mean Cobra, she got poisoned by Cuberios and that was the end of fight. She couldnt even land a hit on him.
 
^actually I am talking about fillers,now you can say we don't count that,but it won't change the fact she did fight him,and anyway even if you don't count that...all the rest I said still stays there.
 
Yeah, but just saying that she can't have experience from that, since she never battled him actually (He pretty much just dodged her attacks and then poisoned her)
 
^well,it was 2v1 since cubelios(kinan) has a will of her own.

Anyway his ability is much more advance in confront to pre-cog which is limited, since it's not used constantly and that (pre-cog)really is the only thing doffy has here.
 
Since speed is equalized Donflamingo takes this with his awakening and bird cage. His haki strings will have no problem piercing most of her armors. and if she want to demage him she will have to go into clear heart armor leaving her exposed for his string. Also if she doesn't pull sea stone armor out of her ass she is not stoping the bird cage.
 
Her clear heart clothing is large island which is a one shot for Erza. What exactly is the bird cage gonna do? And you ignore the fact Erza can hit him too?

Seriously think before you write random stuff.
 
And if you still didn't understand bird cage is what gives him flight to equal Erza's ability to fly as well,awakening the AP to equal Erza as he did more or less with Luffy and armament HAKI to equal her durabilty which can be ignored with wingblade if used in this battle putting him on even lower durabilty.
 
Why are you getting so triggered did i offended your favorite character? Now what is stoping doffy from making her his puppet people with the strenght of Jozu were enable to resist it what is stoping him from turning marineford into strings? What is stoping him from attacking her with string clones while watching from a far? How is a range attack ever going to hit Dofflamingo while he has his observation haki and also outclass Erza in range by a long shot? And how is she stoping the bird cage when people like Zoro Fujitora and Sabo couldn't do anything against it? Also her strongest defensive armor is Adamantine armor that was broken by Kagura Doffy wont have any problems with this. Her biggest feat is cuting a meter Doffy has done this twice. Clear heart clothing is one shot for Erza xD. Please stop downplaying Doffy durability he survived getting shot in the face without getting any damage he survived getting his organs mesed up by Law after than he survived a full duration of gear 4 and Luffy was only able to defeat him because of Law. Also in the manga you can clearly see the strings but it is stated that they are invisible to someone with untrained eye or in one piece universe someone without observation haki now correct me if im wrong but erza doesn't have any encanced vision she only has her artificial eye that hasn't shown anything special about it.
 
Strings are invisible? Is that why the whole of Dressrosa could see the birdcage? Also yes if Clear Heart Clothing is allowed, Erza stomps due to AP advantage.
 
People who are island level can beat someone that is large island you know. You can wank Erza all you want im still voting for Doffy i think i gave pretty good reasoning why.
 
^actually I just explained your statement was wrong lol. Bird cage stops anyone from running away and giving him the ability to fly, but why would she run away when she is supposed to fight? Erza's eyes protects her against illusion and any other type of eye magic like trying to turn her to stone by evergreen.

Her adamantine armor is large island lvl now. So doffy could spend his life before breaking it.

I don't think you understand Erza destroyed a meteor that moves at sub-relativistic speed while doffy a normal meteor maybe even slower than that. And how am I downplaying doffy? He is island lvl durabilty while Erza's attack in clear heart clothing is Large island that in fact is one shot.

Now you should read Erza's profile instead of basing yourself on things you already know. Her strongest armor that give her

large island lvl and in fact one shot doffy are

Clear heart clothing (purely attack based)

Fairy Armadura

Purgatory armor

Adamantine armor (that doffy wouldn't break in who knows how much time)

Nakagami Armor (ignores durabilty and one shots even his durabilty was equal to Erza's).

Now before you say "what are you saying..." Read the profile for Erza and look at her scailing and than give a more precise vote.

Basically pre-cog and some range attacks (since that's only couple of them and he fight in close combat like with Luffy) for him (if that's what you said)since she can see his stringes since HAKI=magic in battles were the verses are equalised.
 
I'm not wanking anyone stats speak for themselves, it's the sole reason her strongest armors are restricted here.

Also again those strings aren't invisible. You do NOT need haki to see strings jesus.
 
Bepo4151 said:
People who are island level can beat someone that is large island you know. You can wank Erza all you want im still voting for Doffy i think i gave pretty good reasoning why.
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When they have or huge speed advantage or hax advantage which guess what is not a case here.
 
Anyway I'm gonna give my vote and reasonings.

Erza has better versatility with more options available to her. She also has a slight natural advantage to Doffy's strings since her fighting pattern is based on slicing and severing. That's more effective against strings than blunt force since the same amount of force is applied in a smaller surface area.

Doffy's precog can only take him so far. It can be bypassed by invisible attacks from Wing Blade Armor and complicated and unpredictable attack patterns using many swords, also AoE.

If Doffy tries binding her with threads, she can use the Robe of Yuen to lower the damage from the strangling, and also attack with her swords telekinetically while being binded. She can also materialize or dematerialize her armor when binded to force the threads open. She can also materialize swords in her vicinity and cut them telekinetically.

Her durability is high enough to take large amounts of punishment without the defense of her armors and even continue fighting and doing extreme feats with every bone in her body broken except her arm.

Doffy has also very good durability being able to continue fighting even after Law's Gamma Knife damaged him quite a bit, although he repaired the damage somewhat with his threads.

Also he's able to mount attacks using his surroundings, but Erza is pretty agile and can fly.

All in all, I see Erza winning this with high-diff 6/10.
 
Bepo4151 said:
When you can't read that speed is equalized
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You didn't get my point here? Speed equalised(but actually he should be faster so your point is funny) but, he doesn't have the hax to beat her plus if we were to use full power Erza it would be something like Nakagami starlight (ignores durabilty) the end. Or pretty much any other large island attack. Anyway could you simple rephrase your reasoning lol. If,I understood well you said range and pre-cog give him the win?
 
Nakagami armor distorts space and cut through it. Also, with Verse Equalization, Erza could tecnically nullify haki.
 
@aiden yeah, let's just forget about and let him give his vote (possibly being more reasonable) and end it here,since he doesn't care about actual stats of full power Erza and since here she isn't using it ethier we can as well ignore that.
 
Still it's redundant and they add up very fast.

Anyway, I included precog for Doffy in my reasoning, but I'm going through his stuff right now and I can't seem to find any showings :(
 
Mainly commenting to watch the thread-

He does make a good point with a puppet string thing though, unless you think Erza > Jozu physically.
 
@Aiden Dont make me laugh nakagami can't cut space one statment doesn't make you cut space by that logic Whitebeard is planet level. Why are you saying that Haki=Magic this is not naruto vs bleach thread where you have to have Chakra=Reiryoku in order the fight to happen. I see absolutly no reason for Haki=Magic.

@Wiliam im not basing my votes entierly on a profile that is written by some random person that i dont even know i've been reading One Piece and Fairy Tail weekly for 2 years im basing my votes of what i have seen in the manga.
 
Bepo4151 said:
@Aiden Dont make me laugh nakagami can't cut space one statment doesn't make you cut space by that logic Whitebeard is planet level.
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It's very interesting that you say you can't base something on one statement. And yet you're doing the exact same thing with your Haki argument. Just because Coby said that doesn't make it valid, especially since Coby is basically fodder.
 
@bepo first thing it's not just a random statement like for WB it's a explanation of nakagami armors power and it was proved when she hit an intangible being with it.

Second thing you are on this wiki and you vote by this wiki rules, if you don't want to than bye. Or if you have complains just write on content Revison board.

Third thing I read FT from 2009 and one piece from 2010. But that doesn't change the fact I saw same things like anyone else who reads manga and has maybe done that only for a month.
 
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