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Revisions to the Bakugan Universe

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Continuation of this thread

Main point of the previous thread was to give Vladitor and Leonidas a proper tiering. THis has been accomplished, though these two are currently undergoing revisions in tiers due to a re-examination of evidence.


The thread was then led to a general discussion about Bakugan tieirng, which will be continued here in this thread. The main subjects of this will be as follows.

-Dragonoid profile revisions (Currently underway, would also need someone to compile any and all hax his forms should be capable of into a neat and organized manner so that they may be directly applied to his profile)

-Bakugan Low-Tier profile creation (Several can create Hurricanes and use light based attacks, implying Small Town Level+ and SoL low-tiers. was previously thought as Large Town until corrected by the user Dark649)

-Revision of other already exisitng profiles (Dharak, Hydranoid, Helios etc.)


If anything was missed, inform me and I will update this accordingly. We can now begin discussion on any of the topics, though it would be best to focus on one at a time for now.
 
So what are Drago's stats for each form again? I think we are still stuck on his second form.
 
Drago should have a form that should scale to Silent Naga. Infinity Dragonoid is what he is called, I think.

Considering that Silent Naga is rated "At least 3-A, likely Low 2-C", perhaps Infinity Drago would have the same rating?
 
Base Drago - Large Town Level for AP and Durability (Comparable to other low-tier Bakugan, which are capable of creating massive hurricanes (Monorus, Beestriker, etc.)), SoL for speed (Even the weakest of Haos Bakugan can manipulte light for attacks, and Drago is shown to be comparable to them)

Delta Drago - At least Large Town Level, possibly City Level (Far superior to his base form, can summon a large hail of huge metoers as his signature attack), At least SoL, likely FTL (Far superior to Tentaclear, a Haos bakugan which is far more powerful then many low-tier Haos Bakugan)

Ultimate Drago - Country level (Barely defeated Alpha Hydranoid, who obliterated Hades, who was able to evenly fight Neo Dragonoid), At least FTL (Faster then before)

Infinity Drago - At least Universe Level, likely Universe Level+ (Comparable to Silent Naga, was beating Silent Naga on his own for a while) MFTL+ (Comparable to Silent Naga)

Perfect Drago/Perfect Core - At leat Universe Level+ (Far stronger then Infinity Drago, stopped two universes from collapsing in on each other with minimal effort) At least MFTL+, likely Omnipresent in New Vestroia (Became the core of Vestroia and could see everything that happened while in New Vestroia)

Neo Dragonoid - Country Level (When fighting Maxus Helios, created a massive explosion visible from space that was the size of a country), likely FTL (Should still be comparable to Alpha Hydranoid)

Vexos Dragonoid - Country Level (Should still be comparable to Neo Dragonoid), likely FTL

Maxus Neo Drago - At least Country Level (Fought evenly with Maxus Helios, who was able to shrug off NEo Drago's Country Level attack), at least FTL, possibly higher

Cross Dragonoid - At least Country Level, likely higher (Managed to defeat Maxus Helios MK2 on his own), At least FTL (superior to his previous form, kept up with Maxuss Helios MK2)

Maxus Cross Drano - At least Country Level, likely higher (Managed to fight evenly with Maxus Helios MK2) At least FTL, likely far higher (Comparable to Maxus Helios MK2)

Helix Dragonoid - Planet Level (Could fight Helios MK2 when Helios was using the Twin Destructor Battle Gear), at least FTL+, possibly MFTL+ (Darkanine did a calc for Helix Drago when he released a large amount of energy, it was calced at MFTL+)

Lumino Dragonoid - At least Planet Level (Superior to his previous form, took on Dragonoid Colossus), FTL+, possibly MFTL+ (Superior to his previous form)

Blitz Dragonoid - At least Planet Level, possibly Universe Level (Superior to his previous form, it was stated that if he were to fight Phantom Dharak that they'd rip the universe in half just as the original Dharaknoid and Dragonoid did), FTL+, possibly MFTL+ (Superior to his previous form, was going to rip the universe in half in a short period of time, presumably)

Titanium Drago - At least Universe Level+ (Could keep up with Razenoid, who had surpassed Code Eve, superior to the Perfect Core), MFTL+ (Could keep up with Razenoid, who surpassed Code Eve's power)

Fusion Dragonoid - At least Universe Level+, possibly higher (Stronger then before, defeated Evolved Razenoid), MFTL+ (Could defeat Evolved Razenoid)


If anyone has any questions about the formsand their stats, I'll do my best to elaborate further. However, this is the best I can come up with for Drago's seperate forms and such.
 
I forgot to tell that first forms Drago are going to be downgrades because recent storm calcs are Small Town level+.
 
If Perfect Drago is able to stop two timelines from collapsing towards each other with minimum effort, you can make a case for him being Multi-Universe level here.

After all, Haruhi Suzumiya was able to perform a feat that involved two timelines, and is rated 2-C for that reason.
 
Dark649 said:
I forgot to tell that first forms Drago are going to be downgrades because recent storm calcs are Small Town level+.
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Ah, that sounds fair then. Small Town Level+ for base form Bakugan (excluding Base Hydranoid who should be Town level, as he is FAR superior to other low-tier Bakugan)


@Lina Alright, so that means Perfect Drago, Titanium Drago and Fusion Drago (Titanium and Fusion Drago are stronger then Perfect Drago, as they are also superior to Code Eve) should all be 2-C then?
 
@Gimmy: If they all scale to Perfect Drago, then I guess so.

Also, what are the chances of those guys having Immeasurable speed?
 
Lina Shields said:
@Gimmy: If they all scale to Perfect Drago, then I guess so.
Also, what are the chances of those guys having Immeasurable speed?
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Not terribly certain for the immeasurable speed thing. May seem like a silly question, but what are the actual qualifications for immeasurable speed?
 
Currently:

"Higher-dimensional entities beyond linear time and 3-D distance, and its' concepts of speed. However, take note that higher order dimensional nature does not automatically guarantee this. The speed statistic should be listed as "Immeasurable" only if a character is completely transcendental to the distance, time, and causality of a normal universal continuum."

However, I do not understand it properly myself either. The living tribunal1 is preparing a revision to the definition that should make it easier to comprehend.
 
Antvasima said:
Currently:
"Higher-dimensional entities beyond linear time and 3-D distance, and its' concepts of speed. However, take note that higher order dimensional nature does not automatically guarantee this. The speed statistic should be listed as "Immeasurable" only if a character is completely transcendental to the distance, time, and causality of a normal universal continuum."

However, I do not understand it properly myself either. The living tribunal1 is preparing a revision to the definition that should make it easier to comprehend.
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Ah, then I guess I'll just wait for the revision? But as it is, I... Don't think any of them have immeasurable speed? If any of them do, it'd probably be Perfect, Titanium or Fusion, but I'm not really sure. I think it'd be safe to label the last two as MFTL+ and Perfect Drago as Omnipotent, personally.
 
Perfect Drago would be Omnipresent, not omnipotent (as we don't use that terminology here)

But then, can Perfect Drago be anywhere and everywhere at once within a continuum (or two)?
 
Well if I remember correctly Perfect Drago is fused with the Perfect Core and thus his prescence is everywhere.
 
Ah, my b lol


And yeah, it's as Dragonmaster said, his prescence is everywhere. At least in New Vestroia.
 
Helix Dragonoid should be far higher than Planet Level.

Each of the 6 soliders separately are Multi-Galaxy since they have parts of the core's energy within them IIRC.

Helix Drago obtained the powers of all 6 soliders when he absorbed all 6 atribute energies. So he'd either be At Least Multi-Galaxy or Multi-Galaxy+.

His previous form who had the Pyrus Attribute energy would also be upgraded to Multi-Galaxy Level.

This would also then scale to Lumino Drago who obtained a spark of the Sacred Orb's power, the Element.

Then Blitz Drago for being stronger and obtaining power from Dragonoid Colossus.

However I have a bit of an issue concerning Titanium Drago's power but i'll wait til the rest gets settled first.
 
Actually, the only reason that the 6 Legendary Soldiers were Multi-Galaxy Level was because they had their "Positive Energy" when fighting the Gargonoid army in the distant past. Each one gave up their Positive Energy and created the Infinity Core by combining that Positive Energy together, which also meant that they lost that power after creating it.

The Attribute Energies, iirc, aren't ever stated to have a specific level of power to them, really. So we'd have to rely on scaling and new feats for those who absorbed them. Helix Drago's best AP feat was keeping up with a Planet Level foe in Cyborg Helios MK2 wielding Twin Destructor.
 
Really? I dont remember that.

Well, even if thats true, I still think they might be tier 3 after that. They were strong enough to separate Drago, a 2-C, from the core and give him his own bakugan body.

Plus, Appolonir was able to absorb a large amount of the Perfect Core's energy from Drago when he and Dan fought Spectra to make sure he and the core wouldnt be destroyed. Since the perfect core is 2-C energy, absorbing a decent amount of its power should make you tier 3, right?
 
I also doubt this. Creating a body or avatar for Drago to act in and perform normally, in my opinion, doesn't really warrant a Tier 3 boost.

Also, I mostly think that Apollonir was able to do that because he already had a vast amount of energy within him at one time. Heck, he basically helped create the Perfect Core because he made a sixth of the Infinity Core, so I'd assume he'd be used to channelling that energy.
 
What about the Dragonoid Destroyer who defeated Mechavius Destroyer in one blast via his Golden Metamorphosis or anything else from the Arc after Mag Mel
 
Nibbler3100 said:
What about the Dragonoid Destroyer who defeated Mechavius Destroyer in one blast via his Golden Metamorphosis or anything else from the Arc after Mag Mel
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Dragonoid Destroyer should roughly be comparable to Drago in power at that point, or possibly superior. And Drago was in his Titanium and Fusion forms during this time period.
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
I also doubt this. Creating a body or avatar for Drago to act in and perform normally, in my opinion, doesn't really warrant a Tier 3 boost.
Also, I mostly think that Apollonir was able to do that because he already had a vast amount of energy within him at one time. Heck, he basically helped create the Perfect Core because he made a sixth of the Infinity Core, so I'd assume he'd be used to channelling that energy.
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Maybe but creating the body for Drago wasnt the only thing they did. They had to actually separate Drago from the core and place him in that body's form so that he could fight alongside Dan again, something even Drago himself couldnt do. But im not too sure about this either so i'll wait for others to give input on this.

Well if he is able to absorb and perfectly susistain that amount of power, then he and the other soliders who are at least as strong or equal to him should be at tier 3 because of it. And its also likely that Apollonir wasnt even going at full strength considering the only Bakugan to ever be capable of defeating all 6 soliders at once is Farbros.
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Dragonoid Destroyer should roughly be comparable to Drago in power at that point, or possibly superior. And Drago was in his Titanium and Fusion forms during this time period.
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Dragonoid Destroyer is Genesis Dragonoid (the universe tearing one) in Mechtogan Destroyer form, but by power-scaling wouldn't he be more powerful than Fusion and Titanium Drago?
 
@Dragontime I think so? Pretty sure Dragonoid Destroyer may actually be superior to Drago's forms, actually...


@Kukui4Life I still doubt creating a body for Drago would count as a tier 3 feat, given that the body was only Country Level and could barely tap into the Perfect Core too much without hurting himself. Along with that, if Apollonir were tier 3 for absorbing that energy, then he should have been far stronger then the other Soldiers when fighitng Farbros, as he would have had some of the Perfect Core's power in him at that time. So why isn't he any stronger then before?

Well, that can be explained through the fact that any of the Perfect Core's energy that was being used by Vexos Drago was only producing attacks near the same level as Neo Drago, as the abilities of Vexos Drago and Neo Drago are nearly the same anyway, implying that the Soldiers would be closer to Country Level if anything because Apollonir was absorbing energy that only pushed Vexos Drago slightly higher in power then he was before.
 
Well for one, the perfect core's energy itself is 2-C energy and, if memory serves me right, having even a small amount of its 2-C power would warrant a tier 3 rating, like at 3-A. And if thats true, then this should apply to Apollonir since the amount of Perfect Core energy Vexos Drago was unleashing was much more than a bit. It was at least a decent amount. Its a similar thing we have for the Unown.

He wouldnt be that much stronger than the soliders. All 6 of them are basically equal to each other, if not, Apollonir being a bit superior to the other 5 since IIRC they call him their "leader". In addition, Fabros was a mechanical bakugan that was specifically designed to absorb the soliders energies. So its not that the soliders were any weaker, its that Fabros was stronger (and considering the kind of tech Vestals can dish out, tech that can even threaten entire dimensions in the verse, this should justify it more).

Also, I wouldnt say their abilities are the same since Vexos Drago was being forced to use power from the Perfect Core to use Spectra's forbiddion abilities (I think) that normal Drago would never have been able to perform given the requirements to activate them.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Well for one, the perfect core's energy itself is 2-C energy and, if memory serves me right, having even a small amount of its 2-C power would warrant a tier 3 rating, like at 3-A. And if thats true, then this should apply to Apollonir since the amount of Perfect Core energy Vexos Drago was unleashing was much more than a bit. It was at least a decent amount. Its a similar thing we have for the Unown.
He wouldnt be that much stronger than the soliders. All 6 of them are basically equal to each other, if not, Apollonir being a bit superior to the other 5 since IIRC they call him their "leader". In addition, Fabros was a mechanical bakugan that was specifically designed to absorb the soliders energies. So its not that the soliders were any weaker, its that Fabros was stronger (and considering the kind of tech Vestals can dish out, tech that can even threaten entire dimensions in the verse, this should justify it more).

Also, I wouldnt say their abilities are the same since Vexos Drago was being forced to use power from the Perfect Core to use Spectra's forbiddion abilities (I think) that normal Drago would never have been able to perform given the requirements to activate them.
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I still don't think it should be counted as them being in Tier 3. The original point was that the Attribute Energies made the Soldiers just as strong as when they had the Positive Energy. This isn't true, since all of the main characters with evolved Bakugan were worried about the Alternative Weapons System, including Spectra and Helios MK2. Spectra and MK2 Helios were completely shocked by the Alternative being able to destroy a planet the way that it did, despite showing a Planet Level feat not long after. If a feat like that could make Spectra, who wields a Bakugan stronger then those who were buffed up by the Attribute Energies and runs equal with a Bakugan that possesses all SIX Energies, then there should have been no reason for him to panic the way that he did.

Alternatively, Apollonir being that much stronger due to absorbing Perfect Core Energy should have made him visibly superior to the other Soldiers and should have allowed him to defeat Farbros while functioning on a totally different level or power, which wasn't shown or really even implied.
 
I dont think so because if you think about it, yes the brawlers were worried about the B.T. System, but in this case, they were more worried for the other Bakugan of New Vestroia being destroyed, as in the weakest ones. I dont believe they were ever worried for the survival of their own bakugan, just worried about the overal species being destroyed. After all, the B.T. system was specifically designed to destroy bakugan within a specific radius, with the planet being destroyed as a side affect. So if anything, they werent worried about the planet, but rather the species being endangered by the system as a whole. Not to mention, the system itself was being powered by all 6 attribute energies combined, a level of power that surpasses all of the evolved Bakugan individually. Even Drago would have been worried about that kindof power at first (well, before he later absorbs them anyway).

Wait, why would absorbing the Perfect Core Energy make him vastly superior to the other soldiers? They are all normally equal to or as strong as Apollonir is, so wouldnt they also be able to hold in just as much energy? Even if he did become vastly superior to them (which could be also true if anything given he's the leader), Fabros beating him and the other 5 was due to Fabros being specifically designed to defeat them, and take in all 6 solidiers powers. If this wasnt the case, King Zenoheld wouldnt have been stupid enough to challenge them with a mediocre machine of a Bakugan if it was that weak.

EDIT: Adding on to this. In the episode were Apollonir comes to Dans help to save Drago, Apollonir also confirms that he too has a link to the Perfect Core just like Drago does.

PS- If it looks like im getting mad or anything, that isnt true lol. We're just having a friendly bakugan discussion and if it looks like im mad or anything please don't think that.
 
Pretty sure everyone was worried for Drago when he took the B.T. System away from Vestroia and were assuming he was sacrificing his life, and the only reason he didn't die was because he stole the power the B.T. System was gonna use to kill all the Bakugan on New Vestroia and destroy the planet, which would aid in the idea of Drago's max output being Planet Level when he was Helix Drago instead of randomly being Multi Galaxy/Multi Galaxy+

The Perfect Core Energy should have made Apollonir stronger then the other five because none of them had absorbed any energy from the Perfect Core. Only he did. One of your arguments was that Apollonir gathered enough energy to get a tier 3 rating, yet if he had that wouldn't explain why the other five soldiers are then suddenly on his level again because they never took in any kind of energy to catch up to him. But my point is that the energy he took in either didn't last or didn't give a substantial power boost to Apollonir.

I believe that others should weigh in on this matter, honestly.


With that said, I propose this for the 6 Legendary Soldiers, assuming that the Attribute Energies aren't considered Multi Galaxy Level.

Attack Potency/Durability - At least Multi Galaxy with Positive Energy (The Positive Energy from a single Soldier was enough to act as 1 sixth of the Infinity Core) | At least City level, possibly Higher (All of them are relatively even, could keep up with, scale to Apollonir, who took on Delta Drago, who can summon a large hail of meteors) | at least Country Level (Should still be somewhat comparable to each other, Apollonir could keep up with Vexos Drago, who shouldn't be much stronger then Neo Drago)

Speed - MFTL/MFTL+ | at least FTL | At least FTL, possibly higher

Keys: With Positive Energy | Season 1 Soldiers (Bakugan: Battle Brawlers) | Season 2 Soldiers (Bakugan: New Vestroia)


Does this seem alright?
 
Well considering Drago was literally right next to the thing when doing it, its understandable. Plus I dont think he was even trying to resist being destroyed he was just letting the energy attack him and then he absorbed it. In addition, even if the max AoE was planet level, don't we go by AP and not try to use the surroudings as a way to lower the value of the feat? Its reasons why DB characters arent just planet level when releasing far stronger attacks against each other IIRC.

Ohhhhh now I see what you mean. Actually now im gonna ask, when was it stated the other 5 became back on his level? Assuming my comment about them being near his power is incorrect, couldnt he have simply been tier 3 and the others much weaker when they took on Farbros? Also for my point on them not absorbing the Perfect Core Energy, I never said they did absorb them Im saying they should be able to as Apollonir was able to when he was at his normal power. So if he can absorb it, they should be able to absorb it as well. But this depends on whether or not they are near/equal to his power or if he's the only solider who can be tier 3 without Positive Energy. And yeah I agree more input from others could help with this.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Well considering Drago was literally right next to the thing when doing it, its understandable. Plus I dont think he was even trying to resist being destroyed he was just letting the energy attack him and then he absorbed it. In addition, even if the max AoE was planet level, don't we go by AP and not try to use the surroudings as a way to lower the value of the feat? Its reasons why DB characters arent just planet level when releasing far stronger attacks against each other IIRC.
Ohhhhh now I see what you mean. Actually now im gonna ask, when was it stated the other 5 became back on his level? Assuming my comment about them being near his power is incorrect, couldnt he have simply been tier 3 and the others much weaker when they took on Farbros? Also for my point on them not absorbing the Perfect Core Energy, I never said they did absorb them Im saying they should be able to as Apollonir was able to when he was at his normal power. So if he can absorb it, they should be able to absorb it as well. But this depends on whether or not they are near/equal to his power or if he's the only solider who can be tier 3 without Positive Energy. And yeah I agree more input from others could help with this.
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Well, if Apollonir was tier 3 and the other 5 soldiers weren't during the fight with Farbros, then Apollonir should have been doing far more damage then Farbros then the other Legendary Soldiers. But instead Farbros shrugged off an attack from Apollonir (Maximum Pyrus) just as easily as any other.

And when Farbros was given that immense power boost and extra gear to work with in the second half of the fight, Apollonir needed the strength of the other 5 in order to combat Farbros. However, this would be completely pointless should he be tier 3 and the others not be as strong, because their power added to his own would have little real affect and could hardly be considered a power boost.

It is shown and implied that they are all on equal footing during that battle, and all evidence of feats indicate that none of them were actually Tier 3 at that time.


Also, just to confirm a few things. This is the only real discussion on Drago's power level (since all of what happens here will dictate the power of his later forms), so once this is settled, regardless of which tier we go with, we could likely apply these changes to the profile, right?

Also, I'm going to start trying to compile all of Drago's hax and special powers for the profile later.

And one last thing. For Bakugan profiles, we'll be putting in their Ability Cards as Equipment I assume. So would it be wise to organize each Ability Card by which form uses them?
 
Hmm. Well for the first point, could it have been that Farbros was even stronger than Apollonir was? He did beat him along with the other 6 after all. Otherwise Farbros would have quickly become scrap metal and Zenoheld wouldnt have been confident that he could defeat them.

As for the second point, I can see why that would be pointless and even agree with it but wouldnt that be considered game mechanics? Apollonir did that so that he could increase their G-Power to beat Farbros during the brawl and im sure we decided that feats during a brawl, not counting abilities btw as thats their hax, that are classifed under G-power are game mechanics. And to further suggest this, when the other 5 soldiers gave their power to Apollonir, they didnt show the slightest amount of Fatigue or anything, they were standing on the sidelines at that point. So its even more likely they gave Apollonir just their G-power.

Okay this I can also agree to but, like Apollonir, if the other 5 soliders have a link to the Perfect Core, then its possible those 5 could also summon power from the core too. And since all 6 of them originally had Tier 3 energy long before even the Infinity/Silent Core's creation, you can see my point.

And yeah we would be able to do that for Drago's profile. And yeah ability cards should count as equipment tho its likely not needed since Bakugan can pretty much use their abilities on their own. Its shown multiple times in the show.
 
I suppose that another big point I'm trying to make is that, if we went with this, then it would make a lot of things in Seasn 2 inconsistent. Many feats could just be glossed over without a second thought and Mutli-Galaxy characters are shocked by and afraid of a Planet Busting weapon.

And regardless, absorbing the power of the others shouldn't have done anything either way IF Apollonir was tier 3. And besides, we agreed to disregard G Power Levels specifically, since that would mean Maxus Drago is stronger then Perfect Drago, which clearly isn't true.


Personally, I think Drago should only be Planet Level up until he defeats Phantom Dharak for a few reasons

Firstly, he is shown to be shocked by Linehalt's Forbidden Power, and is in danger of it. The most this power was going to do was rip the Planet in half (Which, from what I have heard, can vary from Large Planet to Star Level on different occasions). If anything, Drago COULD be equal to it.

Second, only against Phantom Dharak is he stated that he'd be able to rip the universe in half, as they would awaken the Warrior Genes within each other by battling. If he were already Multi Galaxy at base for having those energies in him, he'd have no fear of Linehalt's power as he'd already be far above it.

lastly, assuming that the Legendary Soldiers, or even at least Apollonir, are tier 3 when there isn't really any evidence supporting that the Attribute Energies are comparable to the Positive Energy that they used to have would throw off a lot of the feats and power levels for the future seasons and the rest of Season 2.
 
Hmm. I suppose thats true. Alright i'll go with it (and sorry if I was over argumentive about it lol). Tho since Apollonir still absorbed the energy, could we say that he can absorb tier 3 energy? Or that he has really good energy absorbtion?

Also I have to ask. Why would Neo and Vexos Drago be "Likely FTL?" Despite being much weaker they are definitely much higher than average Bakugan who are LS so shouldnt they be flat out FTL?

And another suggestion. The tier ratings for all New Vestroia Drago form is right but since he can absorb an unknown amount of energy from the perfect core, shouldnt they all have a "Likely Higher" added to them?
 
Yeah, Apollonir will likely have Energy Absorption in his profile if it is made. And don't worry about being "argumentative" or anything. Without discussions like these, we'd never get anywhere. :)

Yeah, they can be flat out FTL. I only put that there since both Neo and Vexos Drago are at least somewhat comparable to Ultimate Drago, so that's why I said they'd "likely" be FTL. But yeah, just FTL will do.

And as for the last one... I suppose so? I think it makes sense honestly.

With that, we have all we need for the AP, Durability and Speed... Now we need to handle the other categories like Striking Strength and Lifting Strength and range, etc. Those should be easy. For now, though, imma focus on his Abilities and Hax.


...Thinking about it, we also have enough to edit Hydranoid's account!

AP/Durability - Likely Town Level (far superior to any other Bakugan on Earth at that time, was feared by almsot everyone for his immense power) | At least City Level (Could keep up with and defeat Delta Dragonoid, who can summon massive hails of meteors, defeated Exedra) | Country Level (Destroyed Hades, who could keep up with Neo Dragnoid, capable of fighting Ultimate Dragonoid)

Speed - At least SoL, likely higher (is casually superior to any other Low-tier Bakugan, defeated the powerful haos Bakugan Tentaclear with ease) | FTL (Superior to his previous form) | At least FTL (Can keep up with Ultimate Drago and Hades. Managed to keep up with and catch Centorrior off guard, and Centorrior effortlessly reacted to and blocked a flash of light)

Lifting Strength - Unknown | Unknown | At least Class K (Could lift Preyas, Blade Tigrerra and Hammer Gorem with no effort)

Striking Strength - Class TJ | Class PJ | Class ZJ

Range - (for Alpha Hydranoid, several Kilometers should do as he could snipe both Druman and Centorrior from several mountain ranges away with pinpoint accuracy)


Does that look alright?
 
@Flamethrower he has a LOT fo different forms, and I at least intend on trying to cover all of them.


@Kukui What's the issue?
 
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