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So, without further ado, let's get into it.
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1: Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Some people might recall that I have already talked about this before in jest.
The gist of it is; after the end of BT3's What-if Saga, which is about Kibito Kai and Goku visiting a number of other timelines where things had gone differently, the narrator's epilogue very vaguely implies that there was an 'endless' number of such alternate timelines.
Eventually, some people went out in search of the original Japanese scan to confirm whether or not this statement was in the original. And, as it turns out...
Why This Applies to Heroes
It is rather common knowledge that Dragon Ball Heroes is a love letter/crossover to all Dragon Ball Z games. It merges several DB games' universes together and fits them as timelines within the Heroes 'multiverse'. And Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is no different; not only is it also a Bamdai Nanco game just like the rest, the sister Budokai series is pretty blatantly stated and shown to be a part of the Heroes multiverse, with Shin Budokai's plot and Janemba showing up.
Not only that, Beat's "real world" universe is explicitly portrayed as a timeline where all of the Dragon Ball manga and games are considered fiction, but are in fact just alternate timelines to the real world itself. Bandai Namco owns the right to the Budokai Tenkaichi series of games, so it would naturally be included even without external evidence.
Evidence 2: History is Infinite
The following scans have been discussed several times, but recent evidence has shed light on some of them and have made the intent behind it way clearer.
Particularly, these two statements, where the Time Patroller claims that:
However, the original Japanese scans were consulted and they suggest a quite different narrative.
These were taken up to several different Japanese translators, who gave slightly diverging translations. Among which:
Another Japanese translator gave a more general, contextualized translation:
Which even further confirms the idea that there are, indeed, infinite timelines that already exist in the Xenoverse multiverse, hence why you don't know which one is correct after a while.
Even ignoring this clear context and assuming that he is still only talking about an infinite amount of possible, non-physical timelines, there is additional evidence that suggests there are timelines for every possibility. With infinie possibilities, this would mean infinite timelines:
Fu, one of the 'greater' characters in the game, tells Dabura that he is not interested in Demon Realms but rather in "exploring all the possibilities". He then proceeds to clarify that he is talking about timelines. This suggests that the term "possibility" and "timeline" are interchangeable, and that possibilities can be explored. With infinite possibilities, this would mean that there is an infinite amount of timelines to be explored in the multiverse.
Lastly, the very name of the DLC this statement takes place in is "Infinite History", which, together with all the evidence above, makes it extremely clear that History in the DB Xenoverse contains an infinite amount of timelines.
Conclusion
With all the evidence above, I believe it is safe to say that Xenoverse and Heroes are indeed fit for 2-A and that its multiverse is endless in size. This would scale to several characters.
Revision
1: Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Some people might recall that I have already talked about this before in jest.
The gist of it is; after the end of BT3's What-if Saga, which is about Kibito Kai and Goku visiting a number of other timelines where things had gone differently, the narrator's epilogue very vaguely implies that there was an 'endless' number of such alternate timelines.
Eventually, some people went out in search of the original Japanese scan to confirm whether or not this statement was in the original. And, as it turns out...
- µéƒþ®║ÒüîÞªïÒüƒÒü«Òü»ÒÇüÒééÒüùÒééÒü«õ©ûþòîÒü« Òü╗ÒéôÒü«Òü▓Òü¿ÒüïÒüæÒéëÒü½ÚüÄÒüÄÒü¬ÒüäÒÇé= "Goku had only seen a small fraction of the worlds."
- "ÒééÒüùÒééÒü«õ©ûþòîÒü»þäíÚÖÉÒü½ÒüéÒéï" = "The number of worlds is infinite."
- "ÒâëÒâ®Òé┤Òâ│Òâ£Òâ╝Òâ½ÒéƵäøÒüÖÒéïõ║║ÒüîÒüäÒéïÚÖÉÒéè..." = "As long as people continue to love Dragon Ball..."
Why This Applies to Heroes
It is rather common knowledge that Dragon Ball Heroes is a love letter/crossover to all Dragon Ball Z games. It merges several DB games' universes together and fits them as timelines within the Heroes 'multiverse'. And Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is no different; not only is it also a Bamdai Nanco game just like the rest, the sister Budokai series is pretty blatantly stated and shown to be a part of the Heroes multiverse, with Shin Budokai's plot and Janemba showing up.
Not only that, Beat's "real world" universe is explicitly portrayed as a timeline where all of the Dragon Ball manga and games are considered fiction, but are in fact just alternate timelines to the real world itself. Bandai Namco owns the right to the Budokai Tenkaichi series of games, so it would naturally be included even without external evidence.
Evidence 2: History is Infinite
The following scans have been discussed several times, but recent evidence has shed light on some of them and have made the intent behind it way clearer.
Particularly, these two statements, where the Time Patroller claims that:
- "Arg…The more you learn about history, the more you realize you don't know…There's no end to it! This's giving me a headache!"
- "History can end up taking an infinite number of paths. Eventually, you lose track of what the correct version is supposed to be."
However, the original Japanese scans were consulted and they suggest a quite different narrative.
These were taken up to several different Japanese translators, who gave slightly diverging translations. Among which:
- Òü»Òüé... µ¡┤ÕÅ▓Òü½ÒüñÒüäÒüªÕ¡ªÒéôÒüºÒééÕ¡ªÒéôÒüºÒéé... Òé¡Òâ¬ÒüîÒü¬ÒüäÒü¬... Úá¡ÒüîþùøÒüÅÒü¬ÒéïÒü£...! = Hah...If you learned or not about history...[you know] it doesn't make sense....my head is gonna start hurting.
- Òü¥Òüé µ¡┤ÕÅ▓Òü¬ÒéôÒüª þäíÚÖÉÒü½µ×ØÕêåÒüïÒéîÒüùÒüªÒéïÒüåÒüêÒü½Òü®Òü«µ¡┤ÕÅ▓ÒüîÒü®Òü嵡úÒüùÒüäÒüïÒü¬ÒéôÒüªÒéÅÒüïÒéëÒü¬ÒüäÒüùÒü¡.. = History is infinitely branched out...I don't know which one is right [after a while]...
Another Japanese translator gave a more general, contextualized translation:
Which even further confirms the idea that there are, indeed, infinite timelines that already exist in the Xenoverse multiverse, hence why you don't know which one is correct after a while.
Even ignoring this clear context and assuming that he is still only talking about an infinite amount of possible, non-physical timelines, there is additional evidence that suggests there are timelines for every possibility. With infinie possibilities, this would mean infinite timelines:
Fu, one of the 'greater' characters in the game, tells Dabura that he is not interested in Demon Realms but rather in "exploring all the possibilities". He then proceeds to clarify that he is talking about timelines. This suggests that the term "possibility" and "timeline" are interchangeable, and that possibilities can be explored. With infinite possibilities, this would mean that there is an infinite amount of timelines to be explored in the multiverse.
Lastly, the very name of the DLC this statement takes place in is "Infinite History", which, together with all the evidence above, makes it extremely clear that History in the DB Xenoverse contains an infinite amount of timelines.
Conclusion
With all the evidence above, I believe it is safe to say that Xenoverse and Heroes are indeed fit for 2-A and that its multiverse is endless in size. This would scale to several characters.
