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OPM Dragon level threats downgrade

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Due to a recent calc group thread about KE granted from parting clouds a lot of the higher scaling will need to be downgraded.

As such the following downgrades will need to happen

  • All 7-Bs nerfed to Low 7-B (although as a note unlike before the gap between Suiryu and 7-B is now 4x rather than the 10~x it was before)
  • Goketsu is changed from 7-A to 7-B
  • The Emperor Nova becomes High 7-A+
  • PM becomes "At least High 7-A+"
 
We can discuss it, just that as of now the only accepted end is the 5 second one.
 
I can see an argument for Elder Centipede, Abandonment Silverfang, Psykos, and maybe Rover upscaling.
 
Personally think all of the ones getting downgraded should get an "At least low 7-B" rating, given the gap between it and Gouketsu's own rating making it very possible that regular Dragon-levels are more than 4 or 5 times as powerful as Choze.
 
Well

  • Suiryu: 6.53322e+15 Joules or 4.0346x below 7-B
  • Hundred-Eyes Octopus: 1.37706e+16 Joules or 1.914x below 7-B
So maybe any Dragon shown to have higher scaling, like Elder Centipede for example, can scale up.
 
I also agree. It seems consistent with Beefcake being rated Demon level for his initial damages.
 
Seems fair, disagree with most upscaling though since Hundred-Eyes Octopus is exceptionally strong for a demon level threat. Maybe someone like Abandonment Bang upscaling is fair
 
Dragon level threats are portrayed as godlike among monsters, though, and capable of overpowering even the stronger S-Class. It also stood no chance against Flashy Flash, although I can't say half-monster Garou did either.
 
I remember that Hundred-Eyes Octopus was able to survive dozens of Flashy Flash's attacks, and simply got angrier until Tatsumaki came along and crushed it.
 
I think the following probably upscale to 7-B

  • Bang with Abandonment
  • Psykos
  • Rover
  • Elder Centipede
  • Darkshine (Dunno if we scale Carnage Mode up though)
  • Flashy Flash
 
It seems like other staff members have this discussion under control.

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Piercing a being's eyes doesn't display any sort of superiority. Given how overconfident Flashy is, and the fact that he was planning to kill HEO with his first assault, him preparing to kill HEO the second time doesn't really mean much either (also Flashy resorting to a special move would also show how powerful HEO is). It's not on par with a cadre, but I don't think characters should upscale to 7-B off of it unless they have a large scaling chain, like Abandonment Bang.
 
Abandonment Bang(One shots cadres).

Elder Centipede (Took Bang and Bomb combined to stop his full charge. Bang also implied he would die to take down Elder Centipede in Abandonment.)

Flashy Flash with Flashy Slash (One shots two dragon levels. Is his ultimate technique)

Darkshine at full power. (A weaker version of Garou was tanking Rover's hits and Darkshine's tackle nearly killed him)

Psykos (Gyoro Gyoro form was a dragon and Psykos said Gyoro Gyoro couldn't even begin to compare to her real power. Which makes sense because she drank the serum and also should be way more powerful using her powers directly than she is through a puppet.)

At the minimum Carnage Kabuto's durability should scale.
 
Give Flash a likely higher rating for Garou's statement about him. Zombieman's too for supporting evidence.

Rover probably should get a likely higher too?
 
I wanna say no. So everyone gets moved to Low 7-B or At least Low 7-B if they don't have the agreed upon upscaling.
 
Nah, just his half monster key becomes "Low 7-B, up to 6-C via Reactive Evolution".
 
Tetsucabrah said:
Darkshine at full power. (A weaker version of Garou was tanking Rover's hits and Darkshine's tackle nearly killed him)
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When he softened the hit with WSRSF, no less.
 
GyroNutz said:
It's not on par with a cadre, but I don't think characters should upscale to 7-B off of it unless they have a large scaling chain, like Abandonment Bang.
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I don't agree with 7-B either, just saying they should be stronger.
 
Choze in his base form was at least 8-C, in his monster form it becomes Low 7-B while GaleWind and Hellfire were at least High 7-C in their base form and their monster form just in the same tier as Choze's monster form. I don't really get it either
 
Instead of looking at it that way, look at it this way. Choze was on the level of an A class hero and became a demon level monster. The two ninjas were easily S class level and became dragons.
 
Yeah, I think any dragon level monster should at least be Low 7-B+ for being much stronger than Choze, That makes sense
 
You should add a + to all of them for scaling above Hundred Eyes Octopus.

I'm pretty sure 3.3 Megatons is already Low 7-B+.
 
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