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SCP-682 Additions

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My only objections are to death manip, the resistance to vector manip, and the 5000 stuff.

Memetic kill agents are explicitly stated to work by making someone's brain/CNS shut down or go haywire, so that would just be bio manip that iirc 682 already has, although it's a good feat.

The vector manip appears to be based on a single line from 858 that states that matter it affects becomes a vector, but that's just for it's affects, which are also matter manip but 682 definitely resists that.

As for the SCP-5000 thing... Idk. It's not really directly stated that 682 did anything as far as I can tell, but what happened aligns pretty closely with what 682 wants. I'll say no for now.
 
Kill Agents - Berryman Langford is directly stated to be death manip, its dath manip in the same way that the Death Note is death manip

5000 was dirctly stated by the author to be the result of 682 mind controlling the Foundation
 
5000 just states that 682 is dormant in everyone's minds and if they attempt to do anything about it, he adapts and takes over their minds. I'd say he can't do 5000 by himself.

Plus, this was canonically a 682 from another universe.
 
Yes, that's exactly what I said. He's there. We have no context behind how he got there, nor do we know if he could have done anything before they poked it and made it evolve.
 
I have no clue how a magical notebook that can force you to die in whatever way the user want, not simply ******* with your biology, is comparable to germs that **** with your head.
 
The only instances of "kill agent" are in relation to using it to force 5000 to have a heart attack, not just drop dead.

Unless I'm missing a lot of context, the 682 stuff is a fan theory.
 
Memetic kill agents isn't death hax. That's like saying spawning a bullet in your brain is death hax. Memetic kill agents is just very potent mind hax that just happens to kill you in the process.
 
Wait, it ***** with the mind to cause lethal effects like heart attacks?

Ooooookay, yeah, that's a no. Using the Death Note as comparison still doesn't work.
 
I should also note that SCP-963 caused Bright to be unaffected by the weird mental 682 thing according to Brewsterion.
 
Death Manip: I agree with others that this might just be very potent mind manip.

Animated Shadow: This should go under the "With adaptations section", however, 682 should also get Resistance to Darkness Manipulation, as it was immune to SCP-017's effects permanently after the test.

Absorption: Seems good, again belongs under with adaptations, but yeah.

Resistance to Vector and Gravity: 682 was affected by 858 it simply adapted wings to counteract it, so it shouldn't get either of these abilities.

Resistance to BFR: It should already have this dozens of times over, and this is worse than its other feats in this manner.

Mind Manip and 1-A: I'm not familiar with this tale so I can't comment without putting in too much time for me to care, but from a quick glance I can't see obvious issues with it. Foundation has 1-A tech, and from the links, 682 seems to be able to mind manip Foundation folk and access that tech.
 
Mind Manip and 1-A: Bruh we had a conversation about this with the entire SCP Discord server lol
 
To clarify: I'm not opposed to mindhax, I'm just not familiar with the tale so I can't give gung-ho agreement. But I see no issues with it from a glance.
 
Also, since 682 didn't vanish like other objects do when touching SCP-858, this should give 682 another EE resistance feat.
 
Another Entropy said:
And not all narratives have 1-A Foundation, so we should scale to the average foundation, not their apex.
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Its the main universe Foundation
 
I agree with evrything said in this thread, death manip should proably be mind manip

The feat with the memetics should probably also double as sound manipulation since his screaming did bypass sound insulation, that or he just screams really strong
 
It there actual proof 682 controlled Swann and the Overlurk ?

Because Swann and Overlurck aren't really what someone would really call part of the foundation, one being literally the SCP site and the other an IRL author, with the story not being about pataphysical stuff making me really iffy about their inclusion in the "everything".
 
Also 682 should have resistance to casulity maniplution if it doesn't already since SCP-4455 failed to kill him as of the latest entry on the termination log which was edited today on 16:48

If he has then another feat to bring up
 
@Overlord775 Overlurk is part of one of The Foundation's MTFs. As part of a recent SCP (which I forgot the number of), The Foundation developed technology which let them possess Swann entities on their narrative layer.

But you may have a point there, maybe we should only assume that 682 can control parts of The Foundation that it's been shown to control, but I'm not 100% sure on this topic.

@Tllmbrg Eugh, you're kinda right. We dismissed that since no mods had gone through to clean up the edit log, but just now a mod deleted an entry added after it which killed 682. But I'm really clueless on what to do with that feat.

Maybe we can say that this is a special case and the mods didn't thoroughly inspect the log for bad entries, and just deleted the new and obviously shitty one that included 682 dying from something mundane and author commentary justifying it?

Maybe we can say that 682 getting Low 1-A/1-A causality manip resistance is a huge outlier?

Or maybe we can just give it that Low 1-A causality manip resistance. I dunno.
 
Maybe just wait? It was just added recently

Though given the whole thing with the writers protecting 682 that one time it wouldt exactly be an outlier
 
Well yah it's new but like isn't it agreed upon after new edits that what's left is free game? Sure the edit was to remove something shitty but like the feat isn't an outlier per say so I don't see why not to add it
 
Not after all new edits, after a mod cleanup.

The only thing is, I'm not sure if deleting a newer, supremely obviously awful entry which has 682 dying from something mundane alongside author comments asking it not to be deleted, is really the same thing as mods going through all new entries and deleting all sub-par ones.

Maybe it is, but we haven't encountered a situation like this before. Especially one where that new entry has only been in for a week or two.
 
The world be like that huh, anyways I see your point I just don't really see any reason not to add it outside uncertainty about if it counts as a clean up or not, worst case scenario we'll remove the upgrade based on that feat
 
Btw if 682 took over The Foundation's mind would that be a version of The Foundation that's note worthy of mentioning in their page since in 5000 it shows them using lots of SCPs ?
 
In my opinion, 682 could have used tons of super powerful scps to kill all of humanity, but he used almost none of them. Which must mean he must not be able to control every scp through the foundation, so he most likely couldn't use s.d locke or overvoid.
 
S.D Locke is not even a SCP the Foundation has access to

Also keep in mind that other GoIs are fighting The Foundation so it's not like they can throw what ever SCP they want and expect to win it automatically, also we don't have full info on everything The Foundation did there so like...
 
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