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Mesprit does have Large Size Type 9 for the Pokémon World's Countless Universes now, but Abstract Existence Type 1 CRT for them if the Creation Trio's CRT is ever finished is likely.
 
Rimuru godstomps. Rimuru is one of the strongest 2-Bs in the entire wiki, even Arceus would have a hard time defeating him, to me, you could try making Rimuru vs Arceus and hopefully that will make a difference...
 
Arceus has stomped Rimuru about 3 or 4 times now, and how exactly does Rimuru godstomp Mesprit when it can only be affected by affecting his whole existence that is spread across the Souls of a Countless universe sized Multiverse? And no just saying their the strongest 2-B doesn't count and isn't true, their not even top 5 if you count verses and lower if you count multiple characters per verse.
 
Madotsuki24 said:
Rimuru godstomps. Rimuru is one of the strongest 2-Bs in the entire wiki, even Arceus would have a hard time defeating him, to me, you could try making Rimuru vs Arceus and hopefully that will make a difference...
Arceus stomped Rimuru 4 times already, so no.
 
Mesprit still kinda sucks.

Though does it's mindhax/empathichax scale to the entire Pokemon multiverse? Cause that might be able to put down Rimuru.
 
I think it does based off how Mesprit embodies one third of the Spirit of everyone across The Pokémon World and calms down one of the Creation Duo, though I could be wrong, not 100% on what it's potency is.

Also hiw will Rimuru use his Type 3 Concept Manip to beat Mesprit?
 
"3. Aristotelian Concept: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself.".


Affecting a whole of a reality is Low 2-C range and affecting all realities is 2-A range, or am I missing something?
 
Mesprit probably wins if it's mindhax is that potent then.

Too big for Rimuru to be able to kill in a reasonable amount of time and mindhax acts as a good way to shut Rimuru down for good.
 
Madotsuki24 said:
"3. Aristotelian Concept: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself.".


Affecting a whole of a reality is Low 2-C range and affecting all realities is 2-A range, or am I missing something?
...That's not how it works, his range with Concept Manipulation Type 3 would be the same as his normal range unless their was any feat or statement otherwise.
 
Mesprit is one third of the Soul of everyone across the Pokémon World, it can indead effect Souls as well.
 
I thought concept manip was like being attacked by an undodgable nonexistent physiologic abstract, if I'm wrong, what is the attack like?
 
Even if that did work, every time Rimuru gets hit by an attack, he gains a resistance to it or an even better resistance to it, so then Mesprit's mind manipulation would be useless.
 
Madotsuki24 said:
I thought concept manip was like being attacked by an undodgable nonexistent physiologic abstract, if I'm wrong, what is the attack like?
Depends on the character and verse, I don't know what Rimuru's does, but I know it's isn't Pokémon World range nevermind 2-A. And that is very NLF to gain a resistance on the potency of Mesprit without any evidence in verse, plus it would only take one mind Hax to defeat him anyway.

And yes it can Soul Hax people, with its more well know trait being taking away people's emotions.
 
Rimuru can also mindhax people. And don't say that Mesprit resists because Rimuru has resistance negation to bypass that resistance.
 
I know that , it's why I consider Mesprit the weakest of the trio and put it against Rimuru, it was just an example of how Mesprit nature as a embodiment of a aspect of the Soul let's it manipulate it and thus mind Hax.

One where is Rimuru's Resistances Negation from, two Rimuru can not interact with Mesprit no matter how potent or how few resistance Mesprit has if he doesn't have the range to interact with Mesprit's Large Size of Countless universes.
 
I do not know where to begin with that, do you know the context behind that scan? Because he kinda did die from that and he didn't have any skills or resistance til after it killed him. Plus it was the voice of the world that gave him that resistance, not one of his skills. And no its not even close to evidence that he can gain resistance to potency countless levels higher then anything he has ever shown, because that resistance isn't even 4-D.
 
Well every being who feels emotion in the Pokémon Multiverse, which destroying every universe would do yes.
 
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