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Powerhungry: Isaac Westcott vs Vergil

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The battle between two black clad Demons with Power as their Goal, and a righteous rival. One a Half Demon, the other a human turned Spirit, who seek strength over anything else no matter what the cost is to achieve their goal.

The fact that nobody even considered this fight saddens me.

But no more looking at the past, Low 2C for both, and Speed is Equalized, let our Date Begin. Credits to Nier for the Art

Spirit of Origin Westcott vs Vergil
Vergil: 1

Isaac Westcott:

Incon: 3
 
If I recall correctly, even this version of Vergil is more of a glorified melee fighter with a few ranged attacks (Judgement Cut and Summoned Swords).Vergil doesn't have resistance to Law Manip, Death Manip, and EE. However, I'll admit, I don't remember what Isaac leads with here.
 
I was going to ask about his in character first move

But apparently he is Nigh Omniscient, so he knows that Vergil's slashes with Yamato are a insta kill move, since it will bypass his durability, so he's not going to play around and will use his good haxes to finish the Motivation Boi as quickly as possible, to not take any chances

EE, Law, Death and Power Null are good options
 
He doesn't have his Nigh Omniscence or PowerNull in this key, he loses it prior.
 
IIRC Death Manipulation was his first move against the Spirits. However that was his only in Screen Fight so I have no idea what he'll lead with here.

As for his abilities he's scaled from Mio Takamiya, his Death Manipulation are Rays of Darkness that kill anything they touch. Humans, Machines, Souls Etc. however as they are Rays that are not undodgeable (Not sure if Vergil can block them however)

His other stuff like his Law Manipulation and Erasure, are both word based, his Law Manipulation can nullify a conceptual seal from Mukuro Hoshimiya who can literally seal away space time.
 
Dante Demon Killah said:
Vergil doesn't have the 10X boost, it comes from the Quick Heart, which only Dante have
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He can keep up with DT and SDT Dante so he should scale to that boost.

As for the match, I dunno
 
Vergil is faster than Dante naturally, maybe that's why he can keep up with the Quick Heart, but only Lucia and Dante have this. Like, makes zero sense his DT boosting his speed by 10 times naturally while Dante needs itens merged with DT to achieve a 10X boost

For the fight, Vergil can avoid the rays, sure, but he needs to be fast or Isaac will Law Hax him to oblivion

It seems Incon for now
 
>Vergil is faster than Dante naturally,

This doesn't make sense considering Dante almost always is the one that holds the advantage in every way

>Like, makes zero sense his DT boosting his speed by 10 times naturally while Dante needs itens merged with DT to achieve a 10X boost

You seem to forget that the guy got boosted for a whole month in a tree that made him a very strong 3-A in a couple of days/hours

Also, for the lasers well, Vergil can block the shots from Artemis, dunno if that helps
 
Odd that no one has linked this to Causality. Let me try that and see if he can tell us more about what Wescott may start with.

Or anyone else knowledgeable.
 
Isaac had literally one onscreen fight and I already said what he lead with
 
I thought there may be another clue from stuff that could be missing, but I guess that works.

So basically, if any of the thingies hits, Vergil goes poof. And if at any moment Wescott decides to speak out and tell him he's a naughty kid and can't use his powers or BFRing him, he is likely out too.

And Vergil's main help would be space manip, as Wescott already has damage reduction from Astral Dress to not instantly die if Vergil manages to get close and decides to use normal melee (unless there's some absurd scaling chain that I've forgotten, which is rather likely).
 
"ÔöÇÔöÇ (Extreme Altair of Death)" Following Westcott command, ripples began to form on the surface of the sphere like a flower bud beginning to bloom. From that center, countless particles of darkness poured down towards the Spirits. The grains of darkness released from the huge black flower <Athiel> poured down towards the Spirits like countless particles of drifting pollen. "Everyone! Don't come in contact with that……!" Shidou yelled so much that it felt like his throat was unraveling. Those dark particles were a representation of "death". An irreconcilable killer that would snatch away the life of its target without question through mere contact. The Spirits were also deeply aware of the threat. They didn't attempt to rebound or defend as they quickly leaped out the way
~ DAL Volume 19​
His Death hax is differents from Mio's, it isn't some ray but coutnless small particles.
 
"They didn't attempt to rebound or defend"

Uh.

Okay, this may **** Vergil over considering how he tends to deal with projectiles, Also, Danmaku feels intensify.
 
How quickly does Wescott's death manip work? Like, if he can practically just snap his fingers and Vergil dies, then I'd give it to Wescott. But if it's anything slower than that, considering Vergil's tendency to be as quick and efficient with fights as possible, Vergil would likely almost immediately go in for a single hit that would one-shot anyone even remotely baseline.

It is really a "who shoots first" match, which I personally never like or even really care about, but eh. How fast is Wescott's death manip?
 
Hmm... is there context from before that quote? All it really specifies regarding how long it took was that it "followed Wescott's command".
 
Most Spirit Stuff at word based, that doesn't really matter thiough since it depends on what Vergil does
 
Hmm, alright.

By the looks of things, Wescott could reasonably form those "particles of darkness" before Vergil gets a hit in, but they'd be unlikely to even hit Vergil before Vergil gets a hit in.

Having a good idea of the speed of the particles would be helpful, but I'm going for incon for now. Wescott shoots out particles of death, Vergil gets a hit in and one-shots, then the particles of death kill Vergil.
 
Yeah, that's my point.

Wescott spreads that "pollen death particle" around, which seems to cover the entire area quite slowly. By the looks of things, he could do that before Vergil attacks.

While it's still in the air, Vergil gets in a single hit and kills him.

Then the particles would likely reach Vergil and kill him.

So it would most likely end with both of them dead. Therefore, I'm going for inconclusive
 
Why would the particles of death kill Vergil if he killed Westcott?

Why would Vergil get that hit in if the particles of death kill you if you move or attack?
 
I'm not sure what you mean. Would the particles of death just... stop working if Wescott died after using them? The quote isn't very clear on it.

If they do, then I'd give this to Vergil.

If they don't, then they'd probably kill Vergil after he killed Wescott, which would make this an incon, as they both die.
 
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