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Rabbit VS Ladybug (CONCLUDED)

Haven't seen Ladybug, but I'm pretty sure if we take Marinette's more OP abilities away, it all depends on how much experience she retains. If none, then Judy wins since she has received professional training, while Marinette has all the skills of a high school girl.
 
PeaceOnTheRise said:
Haven't seen Ladybug, but I'm pretty sure if we take Marinette's more OP abilities away, it all depends on how much experience she retains. If none, then Judy wins since she has received professional training, while Marinette has all the skills of a high school girl.
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Yes, but Marinette scales to a much higher durability than Judy, and she can still fight. Judy is obviously superior in terms of skill, but she don't have optional equipment on her. Marinette is indeed just limited to her 9-B form, so only her skills as Marinette are available in this battle
 
More hella strange use of the 9-B tiering for Marinette, but yeah, Judy is police trained and has shown to be able to take out massive animals in boxing rounds during her training. Marinette literally has nothing
 
Aside from much higher durability and argueably AP, and the big animals are the one that did the 600kJ feat.

Judy is also much smaller so Marinette has a range advantage
 
Judy is harder to hit therefore, and limits Marinettes viable movements.

Why cant we honestly not use the 9-B tier like this? Marinette has nothing outside of Ladybug
 
There are some characters such as Adrien, Kagami and more that can fight, even untrained humans have usually have at least a small degree of combat efficency (though obviously not as much as boxers and martial artists)

Judy also have just her physical punches, no weapons here since they aren't standard equipment, and Marinette out-ranges her.
 
Not Marinette? Marinette has never shown that proficiency? Nor should she have any safe scaling, or even need a 9-B tier for the absolut sake of it where she hasnt got anything. Honestly, can we not just stick to her as actual Ladybug and make fights for that?

Judy doesnt need her weapons, shes literally taken out a Rhino. Marinette hardly outranges seeing as Judy is a much smaller and harder to hit as a target. Rabbits are also far more agile than humans
 
Jinx666 said:
Judy doesnt need her weapons, shes literally taken out a Rhino. Marinette hardly outranges seeing as Judy is a much smaller and harder to hit as a target. Rabbits are also far more agile than humans
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While that's true, Marinette is far more durable than that Rhino, so Judy would have a much harder time knicking her out. Also speed is equalized.

Regardless, I'll take it as a vote for Judy
 
Thing with Miraculous 9-B keys it's that either most of them get outskilled, outhaxed or they AP stomp. It's like a versus with Gigantitan and Akuma reproduction restricted.

Anyways, Judy outskills. She's used to fight with characters larger than her and it's the top of her class despite all of their being trained in CQC. She's also more agile overall.
 
Monkey Dunno said:
Thing with Miraculous 9-B keys it's that either most of them get outskilled, outhaxed or they AP stomp. It's like a versus with Gigantitan and Akuma reproduction restricted.
Anyways, Judy outskills. She's used to fight with characters larger than her and it's the top of her class despite all of their being trained in CQC. She's also more agile overall.
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So should 9-B keys be entirely deleted? Most of them aren't very haxed or have a lot of other abilities tbh

Also, is it a vote for Judy?
 
Excuse me but how does Judy not stomp here?

She has combat training and could take down foes far larger than Marionette before she even graduated from the academy.
 
Because Marinette's durability is far higher than Judy's AP

Marinette's dura is 1.45 megajoules compared to Judy's 667kJ
 
That's still not a valid wincon. That's like saying a teenager with MMA training can't take out a working class adult because the adult has all the physical advantages.
 
Would it really matter if Marionette has no chance in hell of ever touching Judy?
 
Sir Ovens said:
Would it really matter if Marionette has no chance in hell of ever touching Judy?
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Yes. Since speed is equalized Marinette can potentially damage her while Judy would have a harder time doing so with each hit. Though obviously Judy would hit her a lot more it's negated by Marinette's higher durability
 
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