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Alien X vs Asriel Dreemurr. Round 2

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Seeing as how Alien X has a new, very useful ability (Existence Erasure), let's see if it'll give him an edge, or Asriel will still soulhax him into oblivion.

Speed Equal, Asriel using a fraction of his power, but this time let's spice things up, both are wanting blood to be shed.

Let's get this show on the road.
Alien X UAF Render2
(Omniverse Alien X is used, but i'm using Alien Force for a photo because AF's design is cooler in my opinion.)
Asriel Dreemurr (God of Hyperdeath)
 
Also there is a thread going to give Alien X a practical immunity (only applies to vs threads) to soulhax due to his pocket dimension containing his souls (Ben, Bellicus and Serena) so you'd need more than regular multiversal range to affect his souls + you need to know where his pocket dimension is in the first place if you can't nuke the multiverse and beyond with soulhax.

Also mindhax while bloodlusted is more likely since Ben might not know for sure that he can EE or how to do it.
 
EE might be able to bypass SAVE/LOAD, I'm not sure though

Duraneg was removed from Undertale with the last CRTs, so soulhax no longer negates durability. This probanly includes Asriel, maybe not, I dont know
 
X also has information manipulation to turn Asriel's life-force into spaghetti, which might put Asriel in a death-loop if he SAVE/LOAD's since X has to alter the universe to do so.
 
Would it be more fair if I instead removed the bloodlusted, but gave Alien X knowledge on Asriels abilities?
 
He was killing Frisk. Which failed.

It's definitly a stretch that was him, instead of saying that Frisk goes full Save the same way they went full Fight against Omega Flowey
 
I guess that makes sense, but it does seem to be Asriel's Doing as when he blast gets stronger the buttons begin to shake then get destroyed when the blast gets stronger even more.
 
The match previous won by Asriel was by Soul Hax, but after a user known by Magic explained the technicalities of Alien X, that match should be now considered invalid due to the questioning if Alien X even has a soul in the first place as Alien X is just a body controlled by Ben and 2 of his other personalities.

Apparently now Asriel's soul hax doesn't work proficiently now, if thats what I'm seeing according to another user here

Due to existence erasure now added and in this scenario where both are bloodlusted, they'll immediately go for the kill, yet I'm not sure if Alien X can bypass save/load and I'm not sure if Asriel's soul hax would even work as Alien X probably doesn't even have a soul anyways. The best conclusion of this match up right now imo is incon
 
I didn't see MagicCloud ever bring up Alien X's soul or making a CRT about it but okay, this is the second time he gets credit for something I thought of lol (could be wrong don't take any of this seriously), it's starting to feel like Saitama and King over here.

But yeah either X doesn't have a soul or it's out of reach for Asriel, however I'm not sure about AP since Asriel's attacks should still have 2-B energy and X scales to about doubling the amount of timelines within Ben 10 every year.
 
Basically the thing we're wondering is, can Asriel win? Alien X might not even have a soul and if he does it's out of range for Asriel most likely (as in not within alternate timelines, which is where X's 2-B rating comes from), not that Asriel even knows where to target Alien X's soul anyways even if it was within range.
 
That's 2-B EE right? In that case yeah it works, wouldn't a bloodlusted Asriel start with that btw?
 
Yes, Flowey stated it would erase everything, and even normal Asriel tried to start with it, but Frisk wasn't letting him do so.
 
Ah if the EE takes a bit of time, chances are both EE and it's incon or mindhax to let Asriel take himself down with the EE as well.
 
EE is an ability that AX will never use IC

Also I do agree that, that match should be removed as apparently Asriel's soul hax doesn't negate durability anymore and AX debatably doesn't even have a soul
 
would resets trigger the sotobro effect? If so, X's time manip should be able to counteract it, no?
 
Common misconception of the Sotobro Effect, never was it stated that every time a time user uses time manipulation it can be sensed by another time user. The Sotobro Effect is an occurrence only caused by Chronosapiens and their weapons like the Chronosapien Time Bomb, because when they use time manipulation it causes a ripple in time that all time users can sense and possibly undo.
 
I've already given my thoughts on this fight in a previous battle. Asriel for those same reasons. Again.
 
EpicCookie12342 where is that statistic coming from? I've never heard anybody describe it that way. Considering that saving and loading literally causes timelines to jump left and right, starting and stopping, as sans puts it, I feel as though that'd be very much detectable
 
The problem is I changed my email. Name should be Juron. I really don't want to figure out what all I said about AlienX

The thread owner should know who I am. Thats why he's out for bloodshed. Because with all votes tallied I argued that AlienX is a pacifist.
 
I'd rather fight deathbattle or marisa vs asriel style than debate. I want a deathbattle not a thread contest. Team AlienX uses methods to secure victory that I don't agree with.

AlienX does have more common superpowers like Energy Manipulation or Element Manipulation? Because thats what I want to fight with.
 
yeah he should. he can do general reality warping and I'm pretty sure I recall him doing energy manip stuff. One thing I know that he did do was create a black hole whose event horrizon spanned larger than a nearby galaxy by creating a LOT of duplicates of himself, then said black hole was too strong for another celestialsapien to escape from (though it's also implied that he couldn't escape as a result of too much indecisiveness). Of course, if they're bloodlusted then he prob just opens with EE, however idk how that'd work with save/load stuff. Personally, I think that Alien X would be able to figure out what's going on with the whole save/load thing and he should be able to time manip asriel into flowey in my opinion
 
But could he beat Asriels tolerance for damage? I'm not counting on save/load we can drop that in favor of his "infinite" stats. How strong is the energy manipulation because if marisa is stronger it should be a stomp.
 
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