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Lumberjack Ghost vs. The Flying Dutchman

How does the Flying Dutchman send people into the Void or into the Fly of Despair?
 
Given the Dutchman has to physically toss someone in, and given Lumberjack Ghost has better lifting strength than the Dutchman, its very likely the Lumberjack Ghost can easily pry himself out of the Dutchman's grip should the Dutchman attempt to throw him in.

Intangibility is completely out of the question for both sides since they're both ghosts, and as far as I know, ghosts can actually touch ghosts. Hmm...

Gonna have to give this one to Lumberjack Ghost unless the Flying Dutchman's teleporting Mr. Krabs to Davy Jones' Locker means anything.
 
So, uh, The Dutchman is around the size of the Limberjack's hand fwi. He's never shown to make portals big enough to BFR LG in the first place.

Lumberjack Ghost eventually turns him into wood. Teleportation hasn't shown to work on people the Lumberjack's size and it's not a starting move anyways.
 
is this Threads still open for debate?

if so, what prevents the pirate from using mind hax or trapping the lumberjack on the voide?
 
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