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The Cosmology + Chrono Navigator
I originally wanted to make this thread to get the Ben 10 cosmology officially accepted as exponentially expanding timelines since 2006 (the beginning of the show), luckily for us our lord and savior Maltruant (19:19) has control over the infinite time stream and because we already know there are hundreds of timelines in 2011/2012 as stated by Paradox, this means time in Ben 10 will never end (contrary to our own universe) and because of Paradox's ad infinitum statement, this means that when the Chrono Navigator is destroying all of time and all alternate timelines, it is destroying a 2A structure. A possibly 2 times 2A structure based on there being a second universe with different physics in the main timeline and most likely all timelines, this might just be another dimension like the Null Void or Diagon's dimension tho. There is also Ultimate Kevin coming back from the Forge of Creation to the main universe by flying to discuss but this is most likely PIS or Paradox just opened a portal for him.
The Chronosapien Time Bomb
I also propose a downgrade of the Chronosapien Time Bomb to 2C based on it only destroying all timelines in 2012 and not all timelines that will ever exist since they would be undone via a chain reaction and not by the bomb's actual AP, we can also discuss here if the CTB actually works via AP or hax and if it has existence erasure or not. There is also Clockwork only reversing time on a seemingly planetary scale to discuss.
According to Efficiente (not on this thread) and Firestorm destroying a timeline means destroying it's entirety and thus everything that branches from it, hence I propose an upgrade of the CTB to 2-A, for the same reasons as the Chrono Navigator.
Practical immunities for Alien X
My last point is only meant for VS battles and not his page: I propose practical immunity to potent sleep manipulation, mind manipulation and soul manipulation due to his mind(s) and most likely soul(s) being inside his pocket dimension, thus anyone who lacks the range to affect his pocket dimension or anyone who doesn't know about his pocket dimension and doesn't target it as a consequence of that, cannot successfully use sleep-, mind- or soulhax on him. This also means we have to discuss what range one must have to target his pocket dimension.
Small note: Ben and his personalities do not seem to be truly physical since Bellicus threatens to ignore Ben for a 1000 years and then put him on fire for another 1000 years, if Ben were physical he would not live for a 1000 years and thus there would be no point in putting him on fire, on the other hand putting him on fire does imply some physicality but I'm pretty sure this confirms Bellicus, Serena and Ben can't die by regular attacks inside X's pocket dimension.
The Anihilaarg Rejected by myself
I also decided to add the evidence I have for the Anihilaarg being 2C: We all know Ben recreates the universe but not exactly (something Firestorm thought about 4 months ago apparently lol) and as you can see Ben changed the design of Mr. Smoothy in the main timeline, nothing new there. However, the desig is also different in other timelines that come into view. And unless Celestialsapiens in the Forge of Creation liked the new design and decided to apply it to the multiverse (strongly doubt it), Mad Ben's timeline only diverges from the prime timeline during the first few seasons of Omniverse (doubt it as well) or that the prime timeline is the only timeline with the old design of Mr. Smoothy (pretty sure that's impossible), then as long as Alien X didn't retcon the past (highly unlikely because of the old design being used in "Ben Again" which is a time-travel episode), the Anihilaarg actually destroyed the multiverse aka all timelines (in the greatest power statement universe is also used to describe the multiverse + probably alternate dimensions like the Null Void, granted that had a bit more context) and Alien X recreated all of them, after all Kevin thought in Ultimate Alien that the universe is all there is, despite having been to the Null Void and Ledgerdomain and being shown alternate possible futures by Paradox. There is also a guide that claims that the Anihilaarg destroyed the multiverse which I can go look for if necessary. This along with it possibly recreating the CTB and the Anihilaarg also being the Big Bang that created all timelines in the first place, should actually be quite solid for 2C (maybe 2A depending on how the time bomb turns out).
Note: Ben 23's timeline has Mr. Gyro instead of Mr. Smoothy so don't know how that factors in here.
The Cosmology + Chrono Navigator
I originally wanted to make this thread to get the Ben 10 cosmology officially accepted as exponentially expanding timelines since 2006 (the beginning of the show), luckily for us our lord and savior Maltruant (19:19) has control over the infinite time stream and because we already know there are hundreds of timelines in 2011/2012 as stated by Paradox, this means time in Ben 10 will never end (contrary to our own universe) and because of Paradox's ad infinitum statement, this means that when the Chrono Navigator is destroying all of time and all alternate timelines, it is destroying a 2A structure. A possibly 2 times 2A structure based on there being a second universe with different physics in the main timeline and most likely all timelines, this might just be another dimension like the Null Void or Diagon's dimension tho. There is also Ultimate Kevin coming back from the Forge of Creation to the main universe by flying to discuss but this is most likely PIS or Paradox just opened a portal for him.
The Chronosapien Time Bomb
I also propose a downgrade of the Chronosapien Time Bomb to 2C based on it only destroying all timelines in 2012 and not all timelines that will ever exist since they would be undone via a chain reaction and not by the bomb's actual AP, we can also discuss here if the CTB actually works via AP or hax and if it has existence erasure or not. There is also Clockwork only reversing time on a seemingly planetary scale to discuss.
According to Efficiente (not on this thread) and Firestorm destroying a timeline means destroying it's entirety and thus everything that branches from it, hence I propose an upgrade of the CTB to 2-A, for the same reasons as the Chrono Navigator.
Practical immunities for Alien X
My last point is only meant for VS battles and not his page: I propose practical immunity to potent sleep manipulation, mind manipulation and soul manipulation due to his mind(s) and most likely soul(s) being inside his pocket dimension, thus anyone who lacks the range to affect his pocket dimension or anyone who doesn't know about his pocket dimension and doesn't target it as a consequence of that, cannot successfully use sleep-, mind- or soulhax on him. This also means we have to discuss what range one must have to target his pocket dimension.
Small note: Ben and his personalities do not seem to be truly physical since Bellicus threatens to ignore Ben for a 1000 years and then put him on fire for another 1000 years, if Ben were physical he would not live for a 1000 years and thus there would be no point in putting him on fire, on the other hand putting him on fire does imply some physicality but I'm pretty sure this confirms Bellicus, Serena and Ben can't die by regular attacks inside X's pocket dimension.
Note: Ben 23's timeline has Mr. Gyro instead of Mr. Smoothy so don't know how that factors in here.
