Ben 10 Cosmology and Chrono Navigator Upgrade/Discussion + Chronosapien Time Bomb discussion + Alien X practical immunity to sleep-, mind- and soulhax

[Greenshifter]

How does a baby Celestialsapien think or move then?

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

we have no proof they can even do that, but maybe they do subciousnly idk

 

[Greenshifter]

Well if they don't... then I guess it's fine to assume they don't have a mind or soul and they only get one once they mature in the form of a personality?

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

yea that's ttrue, which also implies they cant be killed by mind-hax/ soul hax

 

[DemonicDude]

Yes that's my point

 

[DemonicDude]

During Ben 10 Ultimate Alien S3 Epsiode "The Ultimate Enemy Part 1" julies pet ship who is a Galvanic Mechamorph/Upgrade when Dagon through the Seal turned everyone on earth a Asoterica ship was quickly able to read the signal and transform Julie into the armor (So resistance to whatever should be added to his profile) plus Gwen was also able to form a shield and stop ben,kevin,george into becoming a Asoterica so on both Gwens and Upgrades profile resistance to transformation or whatever should be added

 

[Greenshifter]

@DD can you give a link of the Esoterica stuff on my wall?

 

[Badrimoine2019]

Who would win Alien_X or Dr manathan?

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

manhattan, but this is not relevant for this thread

 

[Badrimoine2019]

So what's left to do here?

 

[Greenshifter]

DDM and Kukui seem to disagree with 2-A but I would still like some clarification on our standards regarding this because I think infinite lenght timelines still warrants an upgrade to higher into 2-B.

CTB scaling also still needs to be discussed.

I am currently discussing Alien X's soul and mind in another thread with DemonicDude.

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[Greenshifter]

Soul and mind inside the pocket dimension seems to be accepted by regular users but not yet by staff.

 

[DemonicDude]

What are the things you're gonna talk about in future CRT

 

[Greenshifter]

Do you want the full 2 pages or the short version?

 

[DemonicDude]

Whatever you prefer I guess long pages.

 

[Badrimoine2019]

I agree about updating the CTB to 2-A also i believe that ben 10 verse is also 2-A because :

In Ben 10 Ultimate Alien episode "Ben 10000 returns" Paradox mentions that there are infinite multiverses. Paradox says "Ad infinitum", which means "continue forever, without limit" to describe how many parallel worlds/multiverses there are.

Paradox explains in the Ben 10 omniverse "And then there were none" the cosmos

Paradox uses the quantum mechanics theory and string theory to explain to Ben what the cosmos is. According to both theories, there are infinite multiverses.

This and the fact that Eon and Paradox, who both can easily timeline travel in a short of time or no timefarm , failed to find the No Watch Timeline until after dozens of years, disproves the "hundreds of timelines" thing.

Furthermore, as also shown in Ben 10 Omniverse episode "And then there were none"

http://imgur.com/a/VtqPy

Each dot represents Earth, there is 1 Earth for each timeline/multiverse, and clearly, there are more than thousands of dots. So yeah, infinite timelines seem more likely than thousands. Nothing backs up there being only thousands or 1000 of timelines.

 

[Greenshifter]

Well everything here you posted has been addressed before except Paradox not finding No Watch Ben's timeline before.

Also hundreds of timelines was also said by Paradox.

The thing I am proposing is that the branching never stops and thus at t=infinity there are infinite timelines, this is more a case of site standards and maths than Ben 10 really.

 

[Antvasima]

I have to unsubscribe from this thread due to time constraints. You can notify me later via my message wall if you need my help after you have reached a conclusion.

 

[Greenshifter]

Okay

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

WOG says there are infinite multiverses

 

[MrLuk2000]

That statement is by Derick Wyatt who I believe is an Art Producer, not an actual creator not a part of MOA. I don't think we can rely on his word. Especially since we don't accept his word of Celestialsapiens being able to destroy a Multiverss with "6 thoughts"

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

what about paradox saying timelines eventually expand infinitely?

 

[Greenshifter]

Ah so it is him, yet Atomix is still considered the second strongest Alien because of him and he's also the reason Alien X lost type 2 self-sustenance. But imo infinite universes (@Door not multiverses how did you get that from that claim?) is not that big of a statement it seems, especially if he's taking about alternate dimensions since we have no "counter-proof" on that one.

 

[Greenshifter]

Also stop confusing timelines and dimensions, cause the answer you're gonna get now is reaching infinity not being infinity bla bla bla, I'm gonna mathematically proof it's infinite.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I already addressed the statement Door brought in the other thread. Those types of author statements are 100% banned here.

 

[Greenshifter]

I'm feeling a bit sick today so I probably won't get the thread out today, expect it tomorrow morning however.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@Greenshifter, I hear you.

 

[Greenshifter]

@DDM thanks!

 

[MrLuk2000]

Ah so it is him, yet Atomix is still considered the second strongest Alien because of him and he's also the reason Alien X lost type 2 self-sustenance. But imo infinite universes (@Door not multiverses how did you get that from that claim?) is not that big of a statement it seems, especially if he's taking about alternate dimensions since we have no "counter-proof" on that one.

Alien X never had Type 2 SS in the first place. Apparently, Matt Wayne stated that they eat "star stuffs"

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

no, that came from Derrick J. Wyatt answering a question on Ask, so the statement cant be used for the same reason we cant use Derricks' statement about infinite multiverses.

 

[Doorinmyhouse]

however we know a celestialsapien can survive at least 1 year doing literally nothing.

 

[MrLuk2000]

No, Celestialsapiens have been debating for over thousands if not millions of years and not even move a muscle

 

[EpicCookie12342]

No, Celestialsapiens have been debating for over thousands if not millions of years and not even move a muscle

Even more impressively it is eons give or take a few, which are equal to billions of years

 

[Greenshifter]

It's hero time!